Early review of Capt. America: Favorable

No, it's like asking a food critic to cook.

Probably why he's one of the few I pay any attention to.

Yet at the same time, I've seen a great many movie reviews put forth by people who don't even seem to have even watched the film. *shrugs* Maybe THAT'S what most of them are doing wrong...

Also doesn't help that most critics (of anything) seem incapable of presenting an objective opinion.

Which one doesn't need to do in order to recognize good/bad tasting food.

Interesting fudge, considering that the original Torch was probably displayed in 1937 or 1938 (he and Namor both appeared in 1938, if I recall properly) and Dr. Erkine's experiment probably didn't take place until 1940 (Cap's first comic book appearance was dated April 1941, IIRC). I guess he could have been in training for 2-3 years, though.

(*purrs excitedly at seeing *another* star-spangled hero like herself on the silver screen*)

Does take a painter to express why a painting is poor, on a technical level, as opposed to their discussion basically boiling down to "I don't like it". Likewise, a non-carpenter can obviously see that a wall is crooked, but a carpenter can tell me why, as well as the problems it creates, and how to fix it. And these are exactly the kinds of thoughts many critics pretend they are qualified to voice.
Though he still can't tell my why, exactly, it tastes good or bad. Too much salt? Not enough garlic? Oh... "bad"... very informative, thanks.

I believe I said as much regarding the technical aspect. Though a layman can come to recognize such things in due course.

One doesn't need to be a professional cook to recognize tastes such as salt or garlic, or even whether something is over/under cooked. And if one is just planning on eating the food in question, "bad" may be all the infomation one needs in any case.

Howard did get married later in life. Tony's mother's name is Maria, and I believe Tony's chairity, The Maria Stark Foundation, was mentioned in one of the movies, though I could be wrong.

Just as importantly as Stark mentioning his father knowing Cap, and being one of the founding members of S.H.I.E.L.D., I wonder if they'll touch on Fury's dad serving with him as well (even though I don't recall his name being specifically mentioned I have no doubt that's who that one guy was).

As Captain America being my favorite hero, I have to say I was very happy how it all turned out (my wife teases me about how giddy I was through the whole thing). I can understand the older Bucky who winds up joining him in his hand-picked unit. It made for a faster integration of him into the storyline without the need for a lot of background.

Also, Chris Evans hit the spirit of Cap sqare on the head, and the movie did a good job of capturing the essense of the 40's and delivering it to the viewers. Those were the most important things I needed for this movie to be a success in my mind.

I'm probably going to have to go see it in the theatre one or two more times before it leaves and pick it up on DvD as soon as it comes out

Plus he did those USO shows for quite a while. Remember he punched Hitler on the jaw 200 times even before going behind enemy lines

If by "that one guy" you mean the black guy who knew German and French, that was Gabe Jones.

I stand corrected, you are correct and have my apologies! I actually had to look that up.

It's been so long since I had read anything about the original Howling Commandos- I wasn't sure who most of them were. I was figuring they were going to go the 'new story' route like in the animated "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" and have Nick Fury's Grandfather in there. I didn't catch his name being mentioned so I just thought it probably was him.

The fact you have Hulk 4th and I agree with it (and enjoyed the heck out of it...sorry Norton you're not back!) speaks to the strength of the flicks.

Confused by this. I saw Cap shooting a gun at folks with no qualms, and I don't think he looked real concerned about fatal injuries hitting people in the head with his shield or what not.

Granted, warfare is different than a heroic streetfight....

again, I am boggled

Basically. I think in 616 Marvel he basically said he'd seen and done enough killing in the war. Not sure if they'll carry this element over for the Avengers movie.

I wondered if it was something like that... never read the comics myself. Thanks.

First came the android Torch, then Namor and then Captain America. They were the "Big 3" of the Timely/Atlas (Pre-Marvel comics) era. Also the Torch was created in the 30's, but one must expect a few changes for the movies.

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He's killed with no qualms somewhat recently (at the beginning of the Brubaker run he knocks two terrorists off a train which subsequently kills them both).

Captain America is a super soldier. Granted at first he was used as a propganda tool during the war, but once in combat his superiors would expect him to use any and all means to complete the mission, including kill. Cap knew it was a war and that the enemies he was facing for the most part had no regard for human life, etc etc etc. So to expect Cap to NOT kill is crazy. To expect Cap to NOT like having killed however is more sensible. Cap has never enjoyed killing anyone, even the enemies of WW2.

There was an issue of Cap (somewhere in the 300's I think) where he was force to kill a member of the terrorist group ULTIMATUM. I can't recall the issue verbatim, but I'm sure lives were at stake and the only thing to do was to shoot the terrorist. Cap shot him dead, but regretted his actions for a long, long time.

Cap knows how to kill, but unlike Wolverine, Sabretooth and the Punisher, Cap doesn't enjoy it, does not live to kill, seeks a better way, and always regrets having to use terminal force. This could be why he was judged worthy to lift THOR's hammer back around THOR #390

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Cap is a soldier, first and foremost. He understands that war and violence will lead to death, however it is likely that he regretted having to kill them even though there may not have been a choice at the time.

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He actually has no regrets afterwards.

Hm, well the character under Brubaker has undergone some interesting changes. It's possible that Cap's view on terminal force may have evolved/altered a bit.

In fact, didn't Marvel consider making Cap a "propaganda" character again after the 9/11 attack, similar to how he was in the 40's and then dropped the idea? Been awhile since I read those issues.

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Steve Rogers throwing himself on the grenade while everyone else runs away will probably go down as one of my all time favorite comic book movie moments. I was a little skeptical about a Captain America movie because even after reading Brubaker's run, which is considered one of the best runs on Cap's title, I still didn't feel like there was a clear definition of who Cap was as a person, and characterization is important to me. However, that moment nailed it.

Steve Rogers was always a good person ready to help others even before became Cap, so yeah throwing himself on a grenade would be in character.

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