Who Will Die?


Aett_Thorn

 

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It's obviously going to be
Stateman or Manticore.

Stateman fights Cole and gets killed. Or Stateman fights Cole, gets slapped and Manticore takes a bullet for him. Stateman then goes SSJ and beats Cole.


 

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If I may throw in my two cents?

The idea behind killing off a character, using the posters shown above and asking the question 'who is going to DIE?' will, more than likely, result in no one dying, or dying, but not being dead for long (Then again, comparatively, City of Heroes lore is quite well known for not allowing Necron to leave the door to the afterlife open a bit)

however, if I were to choose, I would have to say three candidates come to mind

First, would be Sister Psyche.

My evidence to support this would be the poster Stone Daemon posted a while back:

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most would say it would be evidence as to Manticore's demise, or, Statesman's with Manticore taking up his mantle, hence the quiver. Thing is though, if you look at Citadel's shouler, you can see some clipping. It looks as though Manticore was in the image, but taken out, which means the only member of the surviving 8 not present, is Sister Psyche. Let's also remember, that due to the images shown of the comic book cutscenes for the new Primal Earth co-op tutorial, Sister Psyche is present for the Shivan Invasion of Galaxy City.

Evidence to the contrary?

Because of the wedding and with her and Manticore being the staple couple of the game's universe, the writers may find issue with killing her off, not to mention the fact that it would risk likening her demise with the infamous Spiderman makes a deal with the devil thing.

on a side note:

Manticore, if this happens, and you do make a deal with the Cit of Heroes devil, I swear to almighty god, I will kick you in the face with a hammer.

I'm watching you *glares*

My second suggestion? Back Alley Brawler

The reason why I say this is because compared to other members of the Phalanx, the old BAB has rarely seen character development. Hell, he's even in semi-retirement. Wouldn't it fit that he would come out of retirement to perform one last heroic act in the hopes of saving the neighbourhood he called his own for so long? With little development compared to the other seven, I'd say that, really, it's possible the writers simply don't want/need him around any more.

evidence to the contrary?

Besides the above image, I feel that the destruction of Galaxy City would be enough to inspire some plot development and character hooks for the man. He lost his turf because of radioactive skeleton jelly, who wouldn't be mad?

My third and final suggestion would be Synapse.

Why?

Simple. Throughout the comics and from in game lore, Synapse was the classic speedster archetype of personality. He was a fun loving guy with a heart of gold, always helping out his friends, and genuinely being there to cheer people up. His death would be a MAJOR blow to the morale of the other seven, and drive home a message: "the world is an unfair place, and good people often die for no reason."

Evidence to the contrary?

like myself, the writers may see this as 'a bit emo' and not bother.

So, yeah. If Psyche, BAB or Synapse die, just gonna say: totally called it.


 

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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel View Post
I somehow highly doubt Baumtown was ANY of those places. I mean look at the Rikti War Zone, there has ALWAYS been a very noticeable ship crashed in it. There is no sign of a destroyed rikti ship anywhere in Paragon.
While true that there's no mothership in Boomtown, it's also true that Baumtown became 'Boomtown' during the First Rikti War.

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the old triple B
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BBB
How do you get 'BBB' from 'Back Alley Brawler'? It's not like you can pull that abbreviation from his plainclothes name, either; that's Michael White.


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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper View Post
How do you get 'BBB' from 'Back Alley Brawler'? It's not like you can pull that abbreviation from his plainclothes name, either; that's Michael White.

...

*looks at his failure, then slinks away*

I knew there was something amiss with that post, my bad.


 

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So we have an image suggesting Manticore and one suggesting BAB. And Gameinformer has one suggesting...



So I wouldn't hedge all my bets because on a teaser poster. I think they're trying to leave some mystery to it.


@Rylas

Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.

 

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That Statesman Mask is smoking, because I'm the one who killed him.



Back off Manticore ... take a number and get in line. There are LOTS of people who want to KILL STATESMAN ....


It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

 

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I've thought some more about it, and I think if anyone is gonna die, it'll be BAB, since Galaxy is ground zero for the whole meteor thing.

Then again, I doubt anyone will die, if only because of the work involved in taking these heroes out of all the various arcs/TF's they appear in or play the contact for would be a major pain. Unless, of course, they plan on using a convenient excuse.


 

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BAB makes the most sense to me, isn't he (the developer) gone to that other game? And Galaxy City is to be destroyed, it does add up. . .


 

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Originally Posted by Remaugen View Post
BAB makes the most sense to me, isn't he (the developer) gone to that other game?
If that's the standard for choosing who dies, Statesman is going to be the first in line to get snuffed.
(and there was much rejoicing. "Yeeaaaaaei...")


It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

 

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Statesman is dead already. The devs killed him when they had the Well take over his body, thereby displaying it's pwnership of him, ripping his status as the faceplate of City of Heroes up by the roots and shredding it for mulch.

All this time, it's all been a lie... the mighty Statesman, the great Hero of Paragon City, inspiration for thousands upon thousands of Heroes (and possibly a few Villains)... a mere plaything. A puppet. A pawn. Anything and everything noble and good he's ever done he only did because his Master saw fit to allow it. Or just wasn't paying attention at the moment, perhaps distracted by some new plaything in another dimension.

Alas!

That leaves only two options --

1. States must die!
2. States must be de-incarnated.

Either way, it's over for the mighty Statesman.

/e whips out ukelele, plays 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow'.


 

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Yep, people are allowed to dislike something without any actual reason other then 'just because'.
Like the way I dislike people who think 'just because' is a valid response to anything to which they refuse to give critical thought?


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It has been confirmed that at the end of this overall arc, the Survivng Eight will be less then eight and that the content around them will be modified or moved to fit such an action. So continue to speculate on who it may be.


 

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That be BaBs then.

He is the trainer in a zone about to go kablooey, he doesn't have a task force, hopefully someone will remember to rewrite the Terra Conspiracy arc with the visiting various NPCs to 'deliver' the vaccine (was he even one of them?), and he appears Villainside.


Actually... does he appear in the LRSF?

And if so and it is him, how much handwaving are we going to have to do?


 

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Originally Posted by Remaugen View Post
BAB makes the most sense to me, isn't he (the developer) gone to that other game? And Galaxy City is to be destroyed, it does add up. . .
That's why Paragon Studio laid him off, because they're going to kill off his character. They could of just given him another red name. They really take their character associations seriously, don't they?


If it ain't broke set it on fire, then say it was a fault in the design.

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-Well the easy out is BAB, He's losing his zone and his death would take the least amount of Dev time to adjust everything.

-Sister Psyche, is a bit of a problem, with the nerdrage over the Spider and now the Super marriage being wiped out, I'd hate to see them jump on that bandwagon here.

- Numina wouldn't effect me all that much since she's already dead anyway.

-Positron would probably be a no

-Synapse, not sure, while do able, it won't have a strong enough impact.

-Citadel "We can rebuild him, we have the technology"

-I actually like the idea of Statesman dying and Manticore taking up his mantle. "The world needs Statesman, more than it needs Manticore!"

-And agree that CoH needs a better "Batman" if it is Manti who dies or takes up Statesman's mantle.


 

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Originally Posted by Arctic_Princess View Post
That be BaBs then.

He is the trainer in a zone about to go kablooey, he doesn't have a task force, hopefully someone will remember to rewrite the Terra Conspiracy arc with the visiting various NPCs to 'deliver' the vaccine (was he even one of them?), and he appears Villainside.


Actually... does he appear in the LRSF?

And if so and it is him, how much handwaving are we going to have to do?
He does, but it happens in the "future/alternate dimension," so they'll probably leave it untouched. As to the story arcs he appears in...we shall see.


 

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I sincerely doubt it's Statesman. He is the counter part to Recluse, the only fully hero-sided incarnate and voice of the well. He has his own TF and is an iconic figure. He also features prominently in the new Maria Jenkins arc, shows up several times and is the goal of the final mission.

It isn't BABs or Sis... they have a whole new purpose with the new starting zone experience unless one of them dies DURING that starting zone experience... which doesn't exactly strike me as a signature story arc.

That leaves Citadel, Numina, Manti, Syanpse and Posi. Posi's TFs were recently remodeled so I don't think it's him -- he's also only "recently" been re-humanized by being able to take off his mask. I doubt it's Manticore because as everyone has said, he's part of the wedded duo. Citadel... you're right. Hard to get emotionally attached when you can build Citadel 2.0 with spare parts from Radio Shack and the battery from your car.

That leaves Synapse and Numina. Of the two... which one's TF needs the most revision? Numina's. It's a stretch of logic but honestly, neither one is particularly involved in the affairs of the players and of the two, Numina has the most nasty rival-- Ghost Widow. Plus, if you throw in Infernal's mother and Diabolique, she really does start to stack up a nasty set of enemies. She also does currently send you to single handedly rough up almost every major original faction in the game during her TF. By comparison, Synapse having a mad-on for the Clockwork King and a minor, unrealized beef with Crey... it seems insignificant.

My money is on Numina.


 

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Originally Posted by Dr_Illuminatis View Post
-Well the easy out is BAB, He's losing his zone and his death would take the least amount of Dev time to adjust everything.


-I actually like the idea of Statesman dying and Manticore taking up his mantle. "The world needs Statesman, more than it needs Manticore!"

-And agree that CoH needs a better "Batman" if it is Manti who dies or takes up Statesman's mantle.
regarding BAB, its a long shot, but if the game, with the changes in Galaxy City, were to begin using technology that shifts the environment as the story develops, you could have a starting zone which ending in a heroic death.

I too like the idea of Manticore taking up Statesman's mantle, though I hope he visits Serge for a new helmet. And he doesn't have to remain a mortal archer. What if the lore were to say that in taking up the mantle, he, like us, begins the Incarnate journey? The hope would be to eventually duplicate Statesman's abilities.

Alternatively, I do hope if Statesman falls, they restore Hero 1. he sounds pretty cool and possibly the one guy who can match Stateman's power in battle. But that would mean some serious reworking of mission stories.


 

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Check out the Prezi presentation from SDCC... zoom around til you find the picture of the "Who Will Die" campaign with the whole Phalanx... and then tell me who you think's gonna snuff it!

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Statesman dies ... so that the amassed power of the Primal Players can be unleashed against The Coming Storm. Without Statesman to "hold us back" ... we can win!


It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

 

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Who will die? Well let's take a look at the game itself. This is for those gamers who like achievement and badges, oOo shiny badges.. Anywho, here's a hint:

Positron Taskforce, Synapse Taskforce, Sister Psyche Taskforce, Citadel Taskforce, Manitcore Taskforce, Numina Taskforce = Task Force Commander > Huge Achievement/Accolade okay, check can't kill those SIX off.

Okay next, Statesman Taskforce = Saved the World vs. Lord Recluse and a boatload of Sigs. What amount of writing can replace those hard-earned accomplishments.

Look who's left. BACK ALLEY BRAWLER = Semi-Retired Old-School Vet Hero, the pinnacle of what true superheroics were about. We kicked his double's *** in Lambda. So, his fate, it's the only decision maker, ONE the Devs have already tested and decided, so just wait till the release and play it like everyone else to find out. Who knows, we all may just be thrown for a loop!

Have fun, ya crazies!


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I'm enjoying every minute of it"

 

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Hm, my evidence as to Sister Psyche kicking the bucket has gone down the drain somewhat with the e-mail that just went around about Issue 21, including a Psyche and Manticore embracing


So, as most people pointed out BAB is probably the most logical of the group to perish, but it's also because of that that I believe it's the least likely. I mean, think about it. He's the most logical choice, so the most expected. For it to be a plot twist, it'd have to be someone we won't expect at all.

Also, side note, in response to Dark Respite's post, anyone else see the 'I22'?


 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
Check out the Prezi presentation from SDCC... zoom around til you find the picture of the "Who Will Die" campaign with the whole Phalanx... and then tell me who you think's gonna snuff it!
Also in that presentation, note that "Who will die?" is not just a tagline, but the actual name of the first 7-part-long storyline.




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