So it all makes sense now.
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Posted on: 2011-06-29 04:55 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Free and Freemium players don't have access to Incanrate content - it's for VIPs only 
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Incarnate Trials aren't available to Freemium players.
You need VIP status for Incarnate Trials. Which means you have access to the 12 slots/server and MMs.
Also, I disagree with your opinion regarding MMs in the iTrials.
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Or, the Devs, after giving altoholic characters 7 years worth of content, finally gave something to the people who don't play a lot of alts. Something that a lot of people had been asking for for 7 years.
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Free and Freemium players don't have access to Incanrate content - it's for VIPs only
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Is it a new Incarnate costume part? |
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Ever heard of a carrot on a string?
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I'm guessing, that one of the first things in the new Paragon store will be incarnate progression access. X points/cash for access to Alpha and so on.
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I have no idea what an Incanrate is but it sounds like a charge for canned food.
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Is it a new Incanrate costume part?
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
I'm guessing, that one of the first things in the new Paragon store will be incarnate progression access. X points/cash for access to Alpha and so on.
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They plan to charge for access to the Incarnate system? Wow. I guess fools and their money are easily parted.
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I have no idea what an Incanrate is but it sounds like a charge for canned food.
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Slap in teh face!!!111!!!
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Originally Posted by golden girl
6 empyrean meirts for 1 can
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That emote costs 10 Astral merits.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
Slap in teh face!!!111!!!
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But you can soon buy it for 401 paragon points.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
That emote costs 10 Astral merits.
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They plan to charge for access to the Incarnate system? Wow. I guess fools and their money are easily parted. |
The ability to indulge my creative streak is what drew me to this game. For me it has always been about the alts, the endless combinations and customization. I've got over 50 characters I still play and 11 of them are 50s. All of them have stories, either written here in the forums, in the ID section, or only in my head. I could never focus on just one or two to the detriment of playing the others to really make use of the Incarnate system.
I've wanted endgame and I'm glad that the people who wanted this are getting it. I figure I'll be a dabbler, because I don't want and would not enjoy grinding one character. Even my main doesn't have a single incarnate ability yet. Incarnates have encouraged me to play my lowbies and make more alts. For me it's about the stories and trying new set combinations, not grinding for ult gear.
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I don't think Free players CAN play Incarnate trials and such... I don't think they're even allowed League chat.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
When the incarnate trials were released it baffled me, why had the devs introduced a single character focused grinding end game? When for seven years theyd encouraged a different manner of game play?
Then at work (my job is boring, it gives me time to ponder) it all came together, the people who have been playing the way the devs encouraged for seven years, making dozens of alts and perhaps not even reaching level 50 on any of them, these players are no longer the group targeted for development purposes. No the new Free and Freemium players are the focus, an end game that focuses on playing just one character, is much more attractive when you only have two character slots in the first place. The way incarnate trials are not balanced for Master minds? Well Free and Freemium players dont get to play those arch-types. Well played Devs, well played, at first I thought youd lost your marbles, but it turns out it was a move worthy of Nemesis. |
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When your premises are false, the conclusion is wacky.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
The way incarnate trials are not balanced for Master minds?
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Nope. They are developing for 5-6 year vets with to many 50's to count and nothing left to do.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
When the incarnate trials were released it baffled me, why had the devs introduced a single character focused grinding end game? When for seven years theyd encouraged a different manner of game play?
Then at work (my job is boring, it gives me time to ponder) it all came together, the people who have been playing the way the devs encouraged for seven years, making dozens of alts and perhaps not even reaching level 50 on any of them, these players are no longer the group targeted for development purposes. No the new Free and Freemium players are the focus, an end game that focuses on playing just one character, is much more attractive when you only have two character slots in the first place. The way incarnate trials are not balanced for Master minds? Well Free and Freemium players dont get to play those arch-types. Well played Devs, well played, at first I thought youd lost your marbles, but it turns out it was a move worthy of Nemesis. |
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When your premises are false, the conclusion is wacky.
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Riggggght three trials so far.
All have high accuracy mobs with AoE's that eat MM pets. MM pets which btw, don't count towards the MM's 'participation'. Pets that without the MM becomes a tiny sack of HP just ready for a single well timed AoE to finish off?
Perhaps you belive that operating as a subpar Defender, is what the Devs had in mind for masterminds, at least when it comes to incarnate trials?
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I don't think Free players CAN play Incarnate trials and such... I don't think they're even allowed League chat.
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That's the way the cash/content shop model of MMO works. When said Free player hits level 50, they will be able to purchase access to I don't know, either the whole incarnate system, or each 'stage' of the incarnate system seperatly.
Of course thenn they'll be a Freemium player, and no longer just a free acount.
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If we look at the hybrid model that Paragon are going for, we can see past examples of this. Access to optional game systems, such as SG Bases or the AE become something the free player can purchase, without having to step up to full subscriber.
Likewise with PVE content, the only question is, will all future content be 'free' for subscribers or will it be gated behind Paragon point purchases?
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Indeed, and I would also like to note that this guy ran the trials daily on his Mastermind. I say "ran" because I haven't played much in the past couple weeks to know if he still does it.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
When your premises are false, the conclusion is wacky.
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My MM is my only Incarnate, and the only trouble I've had so far is keeping them out of the Halberd strikes. (Which isn't even an Incarnate Trial, just a TF.) Actually, I've also had issues with the turrets in Lambda Sector, but that's because I use Super Speed and temp travel powers are %#@&ed up in the incarnate content, no matter how many times the devs try to fix it.|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Riggggght three trials so far.
All have high accuracy mobs with AoE's that eat MM pets. MM pets which btw, don't count towards the MM's 'participation'. Pets that without the MM becomes a tiny sack of HP just ready for a single well timed AoE to finish off? Perhaps you belive that operating as a subpar Defender, is what the Devs had in mind for masterminds, at least when it comes to incarnate trials? |
Admittedly, I haven't tried the Keyes trial yet.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
When the incarnate trials were released it baffled me, why had the devs introduced a single character focused grinding end game? When for seven years they’d encouraged a different manner of game play?
Then at work (my job is boring, it gives me time to ponder) it all came together, the people who have been playing the way the devs encouraged for seven years, making dozens of alts and perhaps not even reaching level 50 on any of them, these players are no longer the group targeted for development purposes.
No the new Free and Freemium players are the focus, an end game that focuses on playing just one character, is much more attractive when you only have two character slots in the first place. The way incarnate trials are not balanced for Master minds? Well Free and Freemium players don’t get to play those arch-types.
Well played Devs, well played, at first I thought you’d lost your marbles, but it turns out it was a move worthy of Nemesis.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.