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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I wish your example went further back in time and addressed these situations:
These previous Veteran/Paid-For slots should be honored in some way, IMO. |
/signe ... oh, right, can't do that either
What he said.
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From how it has been explained, you rechoose every time you go back to Premium. That way you're not locked into those characters automatically when you go back to Premium.
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Originally Posted by Vox_Doom
Simple question here, I'm assuming an answer but would like a confirmation.
VIP goes Premium Chooses 10 characters to play with as a Premium player Goes back to VIP Reverts to Premium again Will the 10 characters the player chose the first time they went to Premium from VIP still be unlocked, or will they be locked again, allowing the player to repick which characters to unlock? |
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Those are the four slots I'd like to be able to add to the ones Second Measure and others have said we'd be getting.
Those four slots were the main reason I bought CoV (the later GvE was for the completionist in me as well as the month of game time) as well as the free month of game time. Villains still don't interest me. Since the additional slots were one of the selling points of CoV, and they've said we would keep anything we had purchased, I'd like to see those 4 added as well. |
Pretty much word for word.
Or, if not those slots, some sort of bonus, like some free points or something for buying the retail versions would be nice.
I'm not going to whine if it doesn't happen, but I'll feel a little, just a little, let down by Paragon.
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Originally Posted by Doctor_Bob
and who picks the 2 toons i get to play?? i havent heard anything about this yet. i have 35 50s, is it 2 per server?? 2 per account?? you guys really havent been clear on this yet
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Hi Doctor_Bob,
If you are a Premium player, you will get two Global Character Slot Tokens, unless you have more character slots that were unlocked through Veteran Rewards or through buying the Going Rogue expansion, in which case your Global Character Slot Token number will be different (refer to the original post for a more clear explanation of this). You will choose which two character slots to unlock and play. If you choose a character slot with a character in it, you will be able to play that character. If you choose a blank slot, you will be able to create a new character in that slot. You will get two Global Character Slot Tokens total. That's two over all servers, not two per server. So, let's say you have a character you want to play on Virtue, and a character you want to play on Infinity. You can unlock both of them, but after that, if you wish to unlock more character slots, you will either need to become a VIP player or purchase Global Character Slot Tokens in the Paragon Store.
I hope that clears things up.
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This is probably a "duh" question but to be specific...when you choose to unlock a slot with a character in it, that slot is forever unlocked (on that server only and cannot transfer) even if you immediately delete that character i take it?
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Originally Posted by Freitag
You will choose which two character slots to unlock and play. If you choose a character slot with a character in it, you will be able to play that character. If you choose a blank slot, you will be able to create a new character in that slot.
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To address the COV/COH 4 Character slots: This was long ago awarded as a benefit to all subscribers. All current subscribers have those additional character slots. For this reason they will be a VIP subscriber benefit.
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Zwill, asking on behalf of potential Premium players that no longer have access to the boards: Everything you've said above remains true, excepting if someone wishes to unlock a MM or Controller, yes? In that regard, what happens? They unlock it, but it remains unplayable? Or will the game not allow a Premium player to unlock a historic character that happens to now be a VIP AT.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Zwill, asking on behalf of potential Premium players that no longer have access to the boards: Everything you've said above remains true, excepting if someone wishes to unlock a MM or Controller, yes? In that regard, what happens? They unlock it, but it remains unplayable? Or will the game not allow a Premium player to unlock a historic character that happens to now be a VIP AT.
Thanks. |
...buuuuuut...As things currently stand there's the following scenarios:
- Bob the COH Player played COH for 3 years. He decides to come back as a premium player. Bob has X Number of Paragon Reward Tokens to spendand has automatically earned the MM/Troller AT Paragon Reward, which will be unlocked always and forever after.
- Bob the COH Player played COH for 3 months. Bob made a MM during that 3 months. Bob's MM is locked for play and cannot be selected as one of his characters to use a Global Character Slot Token on.
- Bob is a new or returning player who wants to play a Mastermind. Bob decides to come back as a VIP subscriber, stays a VIP subscriber for X Months, during which time Bob earns enough Paragon Reward Tokens to unlock the MM AT. Bob then lets his VIP lapse and he goes back to Premium. Bob, much like 3 year vet before Freedom Bob, will have access to the MM AT now and forever.
- Bob the COH Player played for 3 months, realizes he cannot play the MM that he made during that 3 months and decides to purchase a MM license from the Paragon Market. Bob can play the MM AT to his heart's content always and forever.
- Bob decides that there is so much awesomeness offered by the VIP subscription that his head explodes in an orgy of awesome as he mashes the "VIP SUB PLZ!" repeatedly, thus rendering all of the alterna-Bobs moot.
I personally find that option five is the most likely.
Update 6/2/2011 - edited with correction regarding how some of the benefits of the Paragon Rewards Program unlocks. Apologies for any confusion it may have caused.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I personally find that option four is the most likely.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Really? My inf is on number 5.
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OPTION 5 GOOD SIR, OPTION 5!
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
OPTION 5 GOOD SIR, OPTION 5!
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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Just so I follow. I've played CoH for umpteen years. Of which I have MM's that I play and love. (Ignoring points I get for free with this new model)Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it? |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Not that this thread is about the unlockable AT's
...buuuuuut...As things currently stand there's the following scenarios: [*]Bob the COH Player played COH for 3 months. Bob made a MM during that 3 months. Bob's MM is locked for play and cannot be selected as one of his characters to use a Global Character Slot Token on. |
If that statement is true I find it to be very very messed up.
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Ignoring those points? Yes.|
Originally Posted by CORE_NA
(Ignoring points I get for free with this new model) Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it?
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Including those points? Narp.
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There is no way to ignore the Paragon Reward Tokens you'll receive for having played umpteen years. Check the other scenarios I proposed |
Originally Posted by CORE_NA
Just so I follow. I've played CoH for umpteen years. Of which I have MM's that I play and love. (Ignoring points I get for free with this new model)Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it?
If that statement is true I find it to be very very messed up. |
. Just to clarify something...
Paragon Points are spent in the Paragon Market (mtx store). In other words: You give Paragon money = We give you points (this is outside of the 400 pts included in the VIP Subscription of course)
Paragon Reward Tokens are used to unlock nifty rewards and are granted much like the system currently known as the Veteran Rewards Program (it's a complete revamp/improvement of said system). One of these things you'll be able to unlock (your choice, it's a pretty flexible system) is the MM AT.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Not that this thread is about the unlockable AT's
...buuuuuut...As things currently stand there's the following scenarios:
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Originally Posted by CORE_NA
Just so I follow. I've played CoH for umpteen years. Of which I have MM's that I play and love. (Ignoring points I get for free with this new model)Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it?
If that statement is true I find it to be very very messed up. |
Its kind of funny but I consider Paragon Rewards on Premium accounts like a severance package. Obviously that's not the image Paragon is going for, however I do find the thought amusing. Then again I am easily amused
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Originally Posted by Ice Knight
Its kind of funny but I consider Paragon Rewards on Premium accounts like a severance package.
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Why? per you scenerio you have been playing for years. This means you have some Paragon reward tokens to spend. Since Master Mind is so important to you and you sort of think you might let your subscription lapse to Premium level why wouldn't you unlock the MM AT first?|
Originally Posted by CORE_NA
Just so I follow. I've played CoH for umpteen years. Of which I have MM's that I play and love. (Ignoring points I get for free with this new model)Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it?
If that statement is true I find it to be very very messed up. |
Nothing F'd up about it. Makes perfect sense. You want to play for free then you have to expect some limitations and compromises. The devs want to encourage you to pay your monthly subscription. So it makes perfect sense to require you to unlock some AT's if you didn't pay to unlock them either with Paragon Points or Paragon Reward tokens.
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(post edited by Lionheart_fr to avoid confusion for future readers. The logic was sound -- but apparently not the way it really works. |
Originally Posted by Redbone
You missed the part where I said I go from ViP to Premium and back again. Okay, let's do it slowly.
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Then it's really a good thing that I asked about Global Character Slots in the thread called Global Character Slots. Good for me.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Not that this thread is about the unlockable AT's
...buuuuuut... |
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I hadn't seen that. So much for my logic, although I like it a lot better than this scenario.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
VIP and Premium keep track of Open Slots using two different systems that do not interact with each other. As you go back and forth between the systems, you go to where you left off the last time you were in that system.
Think of them as two different Character Slot Unlock Builds. |
However, what about players that have full servers and want to simply unlock their existing characters?
Edit: That's now been answered too.
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You find it messed up that if you stop paying them money altogether, they will only give you access to most of your characters for free instead of all of them.|
Originally Posted by CORE_NA
Just so I follow. I've played CoH for umpteen years. Of which I have MM's that I play and love. (Ignoring points I get for free with this new model)Now if I choose to lapse my sub I loose access to my MM's that I've played for years until I choose to pay for it?
If that statement is true I find it to be very very messed up. |
If you've been here long enough you'll be able to unlock MMs with the equivalent of veteran rewards, but lets set that aside for a moment. You think giving you *free* access to some, but not all of your characters, forever, without you having to spend a dime ever again, to be messed up. Because having access to most of the game completely for free is not enough.
Furthermore, even though there is going to be a way to pay a one time fee to unlock not just one of those masterminds, but all of them simultaneously which will then allow you to play all of *them* forever, without spending any money every again, that is too burdensome.
Is there something about your position I'm mischaracterizing or overlooking?
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Rereading it again I see that it was. |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Then it's really a good thing that I asked about Global Character Slots in the thread called Global Character Slots. Good for me.
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I'm going to chose to believe that the reason I didn't immediately process it as such is due to the fact that it wasn't in the form of a Power Point slide.
Hopefully my answer wasn't entirely convoluted sounding in that case...and if it was...someone bring me more caffeine.
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Now, back when CoV was released, if you had both CoH and CoV (or later one +GvE) you went from 8 to 12 slots on each server)
Those four slots were the main reason I bought CoV (the later GvE was for the completionist in me as well as the month of game time) as well as the free month of game time. Villains still don't interest me.
Since the additional slots were one of the selling points of CoV, and they've said we would keep anything we had purchased, I'd like to see those 4 added as well.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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