City of Heroes 2 Coming Soon

I'm just sayin' I wouldn't be surprised at such a thing happening once in a while (though if it were every Friday I would raise my eyebrow and submit my resume). Last internship I had, the company paid for a trip to the movies one day (theater two blocks away), there was a keg available after 6, a Zen Room for people who wanted a little bit of a quiet break, and snacks/drinks (free*) and Rock Band set up in the breakroom. (Admittedly, the company was working on the Wii port of Rock Band, so half the time people were playing it was for testing, but still.)

* The cost of snacks was helping to unload the suburban after a grocery run.

Extraordinary claims? Really? Where?

I wouldn't.

Frankly, the only things I'd even remotely expect to be carried over to a theoretical CoH2 from CoH1 characters are non-gameplay factors. It'd be nice, for example, if existing CoH1 subscribers would be able to reserve a limited number of character names in CoH2 which they presently hold on CoH1. It would also be nice if there were some way to import CoH1 costume data into CoH2 (probably from our saved .costume files), and maybe if there was recognition of old badging, or old story arc souvenirs, or that sort of thing.

But I would certainly expect, and not be offended by, having to start from level 1 again. The trick is, depending on a new game's implementation, that could even easily be done without making our established characters feel less powerful - it's all a matter of scale. Nothing at all says a hypothetical CoH2's level 1 characters would have to be equivalent to CoH1's level 1 characters in power selection or strength.

I still wonder, though, if they might not be working on a client revamp of some kind. I'm pretty sure EQ did that at one point - releasing a new client with better visuals than the original launch client was remotely capable of, and which interfaced with the existing servers. I'm not sure if compatibility with the launch client was retained, though.

Yeah...that's what I'm saying. People would be offended if a game studio were to allow original MMO customers to transfer their characters' levels to the sequel MMO. a lot of people, not just the ADD, 30days and done crowd.

Depending on which dev gave out that number, it could be 2.6 billion, 2.6 thousand, 26 million, or 7 million accounts in the last 2.6 years.

Didn't you forget the at the end of that joke? Or do you still stand by your thread's wholly unsupported title ("City of Heroes 2 Coming Soon") and original post ("City of Heroes 2 to launch next year, and CoH goes free-to-play with GR2.")

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof, as the professional sceptics like to say.

i may be an anomaly in this regard, but i would have no problem starting over from scratch if a sequel came out. Although i would expect CoH2 to be a significant upgrade to CoH to justify the change/switch. Not merely a graphics and combat engine revamp, but a total gameplay overhaul. i would hope that it would, for example, rather than archetypes use a powers framework system much like what you've mentioned before.

The major problem with implementing an overhaul of the combat system and archetypes within CoH instead of releasing a sequel is the possibility of a similar sort of backlash to what SWG had when NGE came out. Of course i don't think that the Devs here could so utterly bollix it up like that, any significant change to gameplay could prompt similar anger in a large portion of the playerbase who like CoH as it is now.

Since i've yet to see any convincing evidence of CoH2 or CoH2.0 being in the works i don't think anything of the sort is "Coming Soon" anyway.

I don't think you're an anomaly. What's the point of a new game if you start at the end? Sure, some connection to the old game would be nice (some badges, old ones transferred or new ones referencing legacy status, name reservations etc), but starting a new game with a level capped chars or even 1/2 way there seems...well, counter-productive.

Of course you realize, this means war!

Goodness gracious, this is baby-time frolics. CoH doesn't even have a language barrier between its devs and the playing community.

Sounds like software development in a nutshell, actually.

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I'm allowed to speculate all I want without your harassment. If the speculations threatens you and you have nothing constructive to add, stop reading them. There are hundreds of posts filled with speculation on this forum, and unless you're griefing all of them to provide proof for their ideas and opinions, you're picking on this one for some reason, and I think I know why: because you fear I might be right.

Do you feel that the off brand tin foil works as well as the top tier stuff? I only ask because I'm making my tin foil hat and I need it to work as well as yours.

Consider the Titan Network at your disposal to make this happen.

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That's no face, that's a moon.

So, did you ever say exactly where you heard that it would launch next year before coming here to tell us the news?

i mean a halfway intelligent person wouldn't state this with such certainty if they were just tooting out their rectum, so obviously you have a reliable source that you cited somewhere in this thread and i just missed it.

So would you humor me and tell me what you're basing this statement of fact on again since i missed it the first time?

You deliberately point out Everquest and then conclude that a game the age of City of Heroes is doomed? I think you might need to run a diagnostic of your logic circuits.

SOE doesn't keep EQ around because they're so sentimental about it that they're willing to subsidize it off of the profits of their other games. They keep it around because it still turns a profit. They've been more than willing to shut down unprofitable games in the past.

City of Heroes is profitable. In "the current video game climate" that's a pretty damn good reason to keep it open. It's also the biggest reason why there should not be a "CoH 2". Everquest 2 didn't bring in much new business. (Though the recent freemium version is finally doing that.) What it did very effectively, though, was fracture the player base of Everquest. EQ had 500k subscribers at the time so they could handle it to some degree, but when WoW arrived, both games were negatively affected.

Given that there are several superhero games out there now (CoH, Champions, DCUO, Superhero Squad) and that CoH is still the acknowledged leader in that niche, I'm puzzled what the basis is for a prophecy of doom unless they replace it with something new and shiny?

Your grammar's a little broken, there. Are you saying that every suggestion you've seen could be implemented in the current architecture?

Because stretching powers, growth powers, swinging movement, destructible environment, four-legged player meshes, and vehicles all would seem to require a new codebase.

If you're saying that *no* significant change can be implemented in the current code, then I'd probably agree with you. That why we need to start fresh.