Supporters of Emperor Cole are abandoned?

it is killing the story in many ways. The lines between hero and villain is so blurred it's irrelevant - and the villain arcs are pretty tame, especially in comparison to the Praetorian arcs.

That does raise a question about the Dev's missing a trick with Praetoria and making most Loyalists decide Cole really is a complete tosser and heading to Primal Earth to join forces against him, and a few thinking "we're better off with him" and sticking around? That wouldn't prevent any player going to the Isles to make their own path but keeps the story a lot more interesting.

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It's also lazy. There's an entire other game here, called City of Villains, that's getting ignored because it has 1/3rd the playerbase of the other game. Personally, however, I didn't buy City of Heroes; I bought City of Villains (in a pack that came with City of Heroes), and it's City of Villains I've been trying unsuccessfully to play this past year.

Since when has it been un-comicbook-ish to use elaborate ways of carrying out your evil plans? Villains who rpefer to shoot someone rather than luring them into a complex deathtrap really aren't fit to be called proper comicbook villians

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So Lex Luthor isn't fit to be a comic book villain? Half of his creations are projectile-firing devices of some sort (see: gun).

Let me put it this way: I'd like the villain tips to stop treating my characters like the Thug Arsonist and start treating them like actual villains. All the tips are is "SMASH STEAL SMASH STEAL KILL KILL KILL." If none of those three things are involved, it's usually "I'm going to go beat this person up. Done. Oh look I found a valuable thing I could use maybe. Mission complete." Give me something with a world domination plot; how cool would it be to hold the world ransom? How awesome would it be to lure a hero into an actual trap?

(I realize there are "trick the hero" missions. I don't want to steal something to lure out a hero. I want to start a diabolical plan, have them try to stop me, and then fall into a deathtrap where I destroy them!)

My villains would approve.

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"You got to dig it to dig it, you dig?"
Thelonious Monk

There's usually one or two exceptions - and vigilante trash might still have a bit of normal logic left

Ummm, did you and the person you just respond to call the Punisher sane and logical???


Of all the WORSE examples to use of sanity. LOL!

"Easier" does not mean "better."

That's just a few Taskforces. ITF, LGTF, Apex and Tin Mage.

How is that all the time? o.O

From a story stand point, that's once in a blue moon.

From a repeat the content over and over stand point, that's players choice.

Redside does have awesome SFs all it's own. And a new one coming.

I guess one could include Vanguard missions, but that's another choice in you the player.

And the Incarnate Trials, and the RWZ, and Cimerora. And the new SF is still about fighting Praetorians.

But villains fight other villains all the time in CoV

Yeah, Longbow's probably the most villainous organization we fight.

They use FLAMETHROWERS for law enforcement tool, for chrissakes!

The Joker comes to mind when I think of sociopathic-homicidal-nutcase.
But, that could just be me.

Talkign of law enforcement, I saw this epic propaganda text bubble from a War Walker:

The funniest part was that it was firing at me as it said it - it didn't even give me the 3 seconds to decide if I wanted to experience Tyrant's benevolence or not

But there's still a great degree of planning to his schemes and actions. What he does at first is only a ruse to hide something bigger.

Hey, my fire/fire blaster's registration card says 'hero' just like everyone else's!

Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

Entropy Legion * Hyperion Force * Hero Heights

And what is your Heroes source of fire?

Cause if it's Science,Mutant or Magic having direct control over what your fire burns is quite plausible.

For Natural and Tech it's slightly harder but somewhat doable.

For Longbow Flamethrowers there is no control over what the fire does evident only where it goes.

Just because you're a sociopathic-homicidal-nutcase doesn't mean you can't make clever plots for indiscriminate chaos and mayhem.

Not according to most villain tips.

"Oh look a thing. This thing points to that person. I know! I'll go beat them up for laughs! That'll show them."

He's Tech, his name is Flamethrower Ferret, and right now he's also sitting on a completely redundant 'Flamethrower' temp power he picked up while breaking up a Safeguard arms deal.

And let's not forget all the AR's who are also toting around flamethrowers. Its not just Longbow.

Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader

Entropy Legion * Hyperion Force * Hero Heights

It's kinda hard to show a grand evil multi tiered master plan in 1 mission though.

We need some decently talented AE writers to offer up custom M.P. missions.

The way I imagine this would work is you contact the AE writer and given him you evil plot. You let him know what you want to be in the story and let him add to it and flesh it out. Then you pay him some inf and play out the mission.

The down side of this is time the upside is that since you didn't write everything yourself it's relatively fresh.

The first part of the mission will be you clearing out a Crey base or something. You sweep it of enemies, then secure the end room with a trap of some sort. Click a glowie, a hero spawns. They're trapped by you, and you click another glowie to inject them with the serum. It gives them powers, and they break free. You fight them, you win, mission complete.

You start a mission with a friendly-con Malta/Crey NPC in front of you. They tell you to go to a room to meet the buyer. It's an ambush. Fight your way out, mission complete.

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It's not difficult to imagine stuff like this up. I'd love to see something like the Villain option over all these "oh look, this phone belongs to Flambeaux, I should go injure her for some reason" tips.