Issue 20 info is up!
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-03-01 11:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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The Admiral Sutter TF is 20-40, and needs 4 to start it.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Still "eh" to raids.
New TF/SF - OK. Not jumping up and down, but if they don't need 8 person teams (or a silly "Be slotted with Alpha or face a "You're useless!" debuff!") I'll be glad to run them with smaller teams. That's where I'm comfortable. |
@Golden Girl
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Master Zaprobo took a boatload of screengrabs on Beta today.
I've posted the slot info on this page
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=254147
The zip file Master is sharing with us can be found here
http://www.zap-robo.net/coh/incarnateslots.zip
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What *I* would like is for you and Eiko and the handful of solo-only-ists to stop making *every* *single* *thread* about the near or far future of the game about "Devs hate soloists."|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
What do you want from me, man? To just shut up and go to hell? I don't like these changes. At all. What, do you want me to just stop talking altogether?
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Every thread about I19.
Every thread about 19.5.
Every thread about I20.
Every thread about Incarnates.
Every thread about rewards.
Every patch notes thread.
Over and over and over and over and over again.
We know. You said it. Go back and count how many posts you made with this very same point.
The Mods gave those of you with this position your own thread to get your feedback and still you piss on every other thread with the same lament. They heard you. What do you want now?
But you know what? Each time you make your case I and others will be there to point out how extreme it is and how absurd it is for an MMORPG. It's not going to get any traction with the Devs. So, keep it up. Post the same thing more and more and more. We'll be there to bury it like you're trying to bury every thread with your multi-posted position. Congratulations on your lobbying efforts.
En garde.
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I'll alsp be there stating that NOT ALL of their comments are absurd NOR extreme.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
What *I* would like is for you and Eiko and the handful of solo-only-ists to stop making *every* *single* *thread* about the near or far future of the game about "Devs hate soloists."
Every thread about I19. Every thread about 19.5. Every thread about I20. Every thread about Incarnates. Every thread about rewards. Every patch notes thread. Over and over and over and over and over again. We know. You said it. Go back and count how many posts you made with this very same point. The Mods gave those of you with this position your own thread to get your feedback and still you piss on every other thread with the same lament. They heard you. What do you want now? But you know what? Each time you make your case I and others will be there to point out how extreme it is and how absurd it is for an MMORPG. It's not going to get any traction with the Devs. So, keep it up. Post the same thing more and more and more. We'll be there to bury it like you're trying to bury every thread with your multi-posted position. Congratulations on your lobbying efforts. En garde. |
En gard indeed.
EDIT: I'll also keep pointing out the things they've been leaving hanging for YEARS: such as base raids, pvp, etc.
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Content that doesn't require teams, duh. We didn't get it, obviously, so um, surprise surprise, somebody got nothing they wanted in an update their subscription helps pay for, they're going to complain.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The Mods gave those of you with this position your own thread to get your feedback and still you piss on every other thread with the same lament. They heard you. What do you want now?
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Errrm,
I19 had content that didnt require teams....
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If it's not going to be brought up in a thread discussing an issue with zero solo content, when should it be brought up?|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
What *I* would like is for you and Eiko and the handful of solo-only-ists to stop making *every* *single* *thread* about the near or far future of the game about "Devs hate soloists."
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| But you know what? Each time you make your case I and others will be there to point out how extreme it is and how absurd it is for an MMORPG. |
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Yup. Just like pvpers, base builders, and more recently AE folk have been doing for ages.|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Content that doesn't require teams, duh. They didn't get it, obviously, so um, surprise surprise, somebody got nothing they wanted in an update their subscription helps pay for, they're going to complain.
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Telling them to "shut up already" hasn't worked on them either.
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And yet, these people are being berated for complaining about the lack of solo stuff in an i20 overview thread. How is i19's content related?|
Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
Errrm,
I19 had content that didnt require teams.... |
Me, I want good, level 30-50 content that doesn't require teams, so i19 didn't give me that either.
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In an issue with no *ANNOUNCED* solo content.|
Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
If it's not going to be brought up in a thread discussing an issue with zero solo content, when should it be brought up?
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*edit* and for those being picky
Issue 19 overview0
What issue 19 delivered
It *doesnt* list the 2 new arcs...
Neither do the overview pages for I17 list the extra content that was added..
I16 overview misses out the Super Sidekicking/exemplering
Hell, the I14 overview mentions NOTHING else apart from AE.... (granted it is called Architect Edition)
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doooom!
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Originally Posted by gangrel_eu
in an issue with no *announced* solo content.
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Seeing as how this isn't a regulated Official Dicsusison thread, I think it's fine to bring it up here. YMMV. Ignore is an option.
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
In an issue with no *ANNOUNCED* solo content.
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Something cool= Base Building?
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
At least there's this.
And this. The rest? Praetoria, Well of the Furies, Praetoria, Well of the Furies....and no mention of the next Incarnate slot at all. Yawn. Can we wrap up this evil goatee universe and move on to something cool? |
Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.
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No, Base Raiding.
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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer
Something cool= Base Building?
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Yeah, I've seen this being brought up a few times in this thread. All I can say is I'll believe it when I see it.|
Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
In an issue with no *ANNOUNCED* solo content.
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I seem to recall a lot of very similar wishful thinking in the run up to I15, and what came of that.
If they're trailering a badge fix and some expanded zone to zone travel options I really don't think they're holding much back. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I'd have been happy to be proven wrong about I15 as well.
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No, it took increasing apathy on the part of the users, without whom user-generated content doesn't work, to shut me up on that. And new shinies that I can't earn there without repeating maybe two or three arcs over and over.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Yup. Just like pvpers, base builders, and more recently AE folk have been doing for ages.
Telling them to "shut up already" hasn't worked on them either. |
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Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
In an issue with no *ANNOUNCED* solo content.
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Well stated.|
Originally Posted by Caulderone
You're not alone in your current feelings of disappointment in how things are going. Don't let the Raid Progression lovers get you down. Everyone is entitled to their view, and to express their view.
I certainly hope the Devs don't let any few folks on either side who generate quantity/volume of posts to decide the whole of the fanbases image for them. I have always liked that this game geared itself to all of us. I'm worried about that going forward, and have expressed so, and feel no need to argue with anyone about it. |
Edit - the more I hear about the Dev's plans, the more I miss the old Devs.
I'll do the raid crap with one character for certain, but most of the rest will just shoot for the Rare Alpha. Same for my wife, except she won't do the raids at all.
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Um, yes, because a new shiny is the answer to complaints about the current already-dragged-out-far-too-long storyline. Not that I'd complain about base building upgrades, but one has nothing to do with the other.|
Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer
Something cool= Base Building?
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Something cool = Rularuu or Banished Pantheon or Shiva.
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I have been here since launch, don't let the join date fool you, but I am hopeful of more to come in I20.
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Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
This is the first time since I started just after Issue 9 where I'm not really excited about anything coming up in this issue.
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I took my time editing my previous post... should have done it faster...
But from looking at their previous overview stuff... they *have* tended to skip out the "solo" announcements pretty much.
*edit* and for those being picky
Issue 19 overview0
What issue 19 delivered
It *doesnt* list the 2 new arcs...
Neither do the overview pages for I17 list the extra content that was added..
I16 overview misses out the Super Sidekicking/exemplering
Hell, the I14 overview mentions NOTHING else apart from AE.... (granted it is called Architect Edition).
Note: Taking the overview stuff as gospel for what *isnt* coming.... make of that what you will.
Incarnate level solo content... not so sure on.
Non incarnate solo stuff... More than likely, yes.
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Praetoria is also cool |
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Something cool = Rularuu or Banished Pantheon or Shiva.
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Really?|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Content that doesn't require teams, duh. We didn't get it, obviously, so um, surprise surprise, somebody got nothing they wanted in an update their subscription helps pay for, they're going to complain.
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Really?
Because the development schedule wasn't completely scrapped and redone on a moment's notice because of a feedback thread you're going to make the case that it's OK for them to derail *every* thread about content and complain that "Devs don't listen to players?"
Really?
At the time that thread was being made, Issue 23 was on the whiteboard. The next Issue that comes out isn't going to represent the feedback of players, even if the Devs agree with it 100%
And this is the Devs being sympathetic to them. What if the Devs simply disagreed with their position or if what they wanted wasn't feasible. Is it still OK to complain in every content thread about their wants?
Yeah, we still get Base and PvP fans to throw in the occasional "What? No Base/PvP love?" that's off topic. And their subs pay for the game, too. But this is ridiculous the amount of repetitive off-topic complaining from this camp.
"I want it" is not a justification to puke on every thread they can.
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Oh no! They're not being heard!|
Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
If it's not going to be brought up in a thread discussing an issue with zero solo content, when should it be brought up?
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How about in the thread the mods started for them and not every single other thread about content or the future of the game?
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The level shifts of two of the trees are *incarnate* shifts so they will *only* take effect in the Incarnate raids.
The rest of the powers will work just like the alpha slot currently does... ie when you are at level 50.