Issue 20 info is up!

No, because of the subscription agreement you signed. Shake your tiny fist all you like.

Who is "we?"

'Quality of Life' means features of the user interface and user options to make the game more friendly.

What they want. To be honest, the common thread seems to be 'non-Praetorian, non-Incarnate (story), 1-3 player content.'

Fascinating!

Yes all four of those incarnate levels [not just interface!] are available in i20 and they look VERY VERY good.

Judging from what we saw on test too, each one was different enough to be better for different scenarios. Dont really want to say incase people think its a spoiler.

I thought it was pretty clear, at least from my time on the sneak peek, that the two trials would unlock the next two incarnate slots; judgement and lore. EDIT: Didn't read the rest of the posts before making my post. 4 slots?

Also a further QoL item noticed from the sneak peek, you can designate yourself a helper, which makes your floaty name a different color, so that if folks in game have questions they know who to ask for help.

You can also designate yourself as someone who might need help. Or you can opt out of either choice if you don't want to bother.

Plus you can accumulate shards while exempted. So having only level 50 content is really a moot point as we can all get shards from the 20-40 TF/SFs.

Spoiler? SPEAK UP DAMZ! SPEAK UP I SAY! Or PM me! Please?

Pretty please?

Incarnate XP is only available during the raids. Each raid gives different XP and the different XP [so two different types of incarnate xp] automatically go towards their repsective incarnate slot to unlock.
After 3 runs of getting to the final stage we got the interface slot to roughly 60% unlocked, however you can use shards and other incarnate salvage to "convert" into xp. However since this is the shortcut version, it costs a LOT of influence.

The very rare salvage costs 1 BILLION influence for example. Thats if you want to skip the raids entirely and just use shards to solo/convert.

You keep twisting my words. I never said anything about "100% acceptable to everyone." But can you see how I might be disappointed that what was announced is about 1% acceptable to me?

I'm far past asking to be thrown a bone here. If the forum population hadn't made it clear to me that I'm no longer welcome, the development team sure just did.

Like I said, I'll give the game another year or two. I don't think anyone can argue that's not enough time. But what I've seen in these last months has robbed me of any enthusiasm I might have had, to the point where it's starting to eat into my brand loyalty, and THAT concerns me.

Let's not forget that it's an Issue I paid money for, as well. But you're making the I7 argument, essentially: I7 was villain-centric, which apparently made people so mad that every single Issue since has been hero-centric, to the point where we have to keep reminding ourselves that villains still exist, and aren't, in fact, stand-ins for the heroes. But they still don't have their own content, they're just allowed to tag along on hero content.

But, yes, I know how you felt. Can we call it even now and try to strike a middle ground?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

SPOILER DONT READ IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW!







One power gives 90% def to all + rezs to fallen allies [Edit: When the devs used this it affected everyone near him, and was a lot of us so not sure if it has a cap or not and wasnt in a league at the time]
One power increases regeneration and other stuff
The four attacks which i think most people have seen so far [each one looks . .. yeah]
The pets which go up in power/level as you go up the tree [by that i mean you get different upgraded versions]
Effects added to your attacks

That enough so far for you?

Awesome thxs. Can you also PM me the details on what the slots do I can get on test to check it out. TYTY

edit: NM XD

Sure. But it's time for folks that are upset to do what I did during Issue 18. Wait your turn. I didn't quit after Issue 18, I grumbled and did tips until the love that was Issue 19 dropped. It's time to recognize, that not every issue is going to be everyone's cup of tea.

I too would like more powerset proliferation and other things, but to say that this issue is anything but an incredible addition to the game is wrong. It's not just an opinion, I disagree with. It's really unfair and an insult to the devs who have really put out some amazing content in the last year that puts other games to shame.

They did that to us with the last power proliferation. I think we found out almost as it was hitting the test servers. And they even prolif-created the Earth Assault set.

Same thing kind of happened with the APP/PPP handoff, which was, if I recall correctly, completely unannounced outside of the beta test until the day GR went on sale.

Well there goes the market forum's inf sink. LMAO!

Lets say you skip tier 1/2/3 and went straight for tier 4 [very rare] of a tree, the cost to craft the salvage needed + the inf to craft comes to 3 bill The rare salvages cost 500mill each plus . . . other salvages below them which require 60 threads for them . . . . . so a LOT of inf is needed to even contemplate the very rares
Tier 1 on the other hand is available with 60 threads.

I hold no obligation to be nice to the developers and look the other way when they do yet another thing that takes me out of my skin. Not any more. Their credit with me is up, and I am done holding my tongue.

I'll hold my breath and wait. Not indefinitely, but I'll wait. However, you have no right and no place to ask me to LIKE it. I don't, and I won't, irrespective of how much you may like the new additions. I'm happy you're finally getting something you want. It's only been, what... Five, six years for you? You deserve it, and I mean that seriously.

But please don't insult my intelligence by accusing me for not being all sunshines and roses when I have never, in my seven years here, been less excited about this game. It's getting to the point where just reading new Issue features is making me physically ill, and I mean that in all seriousness. Sure, it doesn't help that I'm already ill, but reading over that list of features was just that little bit extra I needed to just lose it completely.

I'm still here, I'm still waiting, I'm still giving the game a chance. You have no right to ask for anything more than that.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

For me it's the opposite. The last few months have made me really excited to play CoH almost to the exclusion of all else.

But then I'm not very villain-centric at all.

We talked recently about this. I've been holding my tongue and not really arguing against you with the stridency that I am known for. But I feel at this point that you are being needlessly provocative for someone who claims to not like arguing on the forums.

If you continue down this patch of arguing against what I believe are very positive changes to the game, then I shall respond in kind.

By completing either trial you now unlock the incarnate tree if you had not done so via Ramiel.

What do you want from me, man? To just shut up and go to hell? I don't like these changes. At all. What, do you want me to just stop talking altogether? If you don't like what I'm saying, then don't respond to me. If it bothers you that much, then put me on ignore. But please, stop trying to "fix" me.

You're happy. I get it. We all get it. Can I please be allowed to be unhappy, then? I never hounded you for being unhappy. Why are you constantly hounding me?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Now this is pretty impressive in terms of content. Doesn't suit me really yet(although I've vowed to give up my altisis ways in order to get at least one character in a position to play some of these) but in terms of "ooomph" it's pretty darn impressive.

You're not alone in your current feelings of disappointment in how things are going. Don't let the Raid Progression lovers get you down. Everyone is entitled to their view, and to express their view.

I certainly hope the Devs don't let any few folks on either side who generate quantity/volume of posts to decide the whole of the fanbases image for them.

I have always liked that this game geared itself to all of us. I'm worried about that going forward, and have expressed so, and feel no need to argue with anyone about it.

Yep, that's what I meant cool .


Now this may be confusing, but replying to myself since I just noticed it.

On the other hand, it does appear the text on the Lore powers explicitly states that it's from the Well. So one step forward, one step back. At least it's only fluff text, I guess about as easy to hand-wave as the text for enhancements.