Issue 20 info is up!
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-03-01 11:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Right, as it's been described, at least, it cannot. It's a system specifically for the raids. From the sound of things, you hit your "I wanna raid" flag, then you hang out until 10 other people hit theirs. Then you do that raid. It's not universal.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Can it not be used to organize regular 8 man teams?
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Thanks! I knew I wasn't going crazy remembering that.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/gam..._overview.html
Confirmation for one, and a clear tease that the other will work outside the trials at some point. |
LOL!
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See EvilG's link above. |
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Right, as it's been described, at least, it cannot. It's a system specifically for the raids. From the sound of things, you hit your "I wanna raid" flag, then you hang out until 10 other people hit theirs. Then you do that raid. It's not universal.
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OK, that was worth it for the lulz.
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Originally Posted by Venture
We don't need anything under level 50.
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I am assuming another incarnate slot should be a must for I20, but like others, I don't like assuming...but rather knowing is far more preferable. 
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I'm from Missouri. No, wait, I'm from Texas. But I'll still believe in its expanded form when I see its expanded form. I do stand corrected on promises made, however!
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
See EvilG's link above.
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It's not like this is the first time that there has been an issue focused on grouping. It's also not unheard of for an issue to focus on solo content. Like Issue 17, 18.
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Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
I want the devs to remember that one of the strengths of this game is its soloability. There is absolutely nothing in this Issue that isn't group based.
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The Raid pre-Beta Testing began over half a year ago. And what is being released now might not be all that's being tested under the NDA.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
Two new raids and two new TFs but that can be all there is considering i20 needed a physically signed NDA. But if it is, huh?
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WRT timing: Don't forget we got a new Winter Event mission and 19.5. From the way the devs have talked, we might be getting 20.5 at some point. That spreads things out and reduces the whining about length of time between Issues, but it also reduces the backload of stuff thrown into one issue leading to whining that an issue is too light. For some people, it will never be enough.
While some might consider this a 'light' issue content-wise, remember that mechanical improvements (which some don't consider 'content') often winds up making current content *better*.
The League system will undoubtedly make CoP, Hami Raids, and MotherShip Raids easier to run, and thus, more likely to happen. (Those not 'into' these things will likely say, "so what?"). But for many players, it improves content and will make that content more likely to happen. It may even encourage large scale PvP zone events (!).
Just think of how SuperSidekicking improved content without being 'new content.' The League system is poised to do the same.
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Those testing the Lambda one should test this out by trying to form a regular ol 8 man team for a Radio/Newspaper mission.|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
I'm from Missouri. No, wait, I'm from Texas. But I'll still believe in its expanded form when I see its expanded form. I do stand corrected on promises made, however!
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Unfortunately I have to work during both of the current testing times for that.
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We took him down in Issue 1. The bastid went and leveled up! We need to do the same.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Then can we go ahead and take him down? It's been 3 issues now.
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The Overview has it listed as 2 separate features
the First being Leagues(multiple teams combined into 1 big team)
the Second being an upgraded LFG(Flag for Incarnate trial,wait til enough people also flag, automatically start trial in a League)
So Leagues are useful for Ship Raids,CoP,Hami,GM's etc.
Raid Queue's are for the Incarnate Trials only.
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That's nice. Now point out to me the part where I said everything has to be soloable.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Until someone can produce the law that says "100% of this game must be soloable" I will continue to have relative little sympathy for people who assume everything here must be soloable.
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Anyone who thinks this issue is light on content is being ridiculous. A cursory review of the other issues shows that this issue is on the beefier side.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
While some might consider this a 'light' issue content-wise, remember that mechanical improvements (which some don't consider 'content') often winds up making current content *better*.
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Have to agree. The amount of "story" being intro'd is awesome. They also (finally) give a reason (though some may argue a not very good one) for why the jokes that WERE the Praetorians have suddenly been powered up.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Anyone who thinks this issue is light on content is being ridiculous. A cursory review of the other issues shows that this issue is on the beefier side.
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Didn't the issue where Khan/Baracuda was released ONLY contain that?
I mean if they call Issue 20 small, what the hell would they call that issue?
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Originally Posted by Furio
Sheesh people....when have they *ever* released a full and complete list of the contents of a new Issue with their first posting?
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I'm actually trying to remember when we had an Overview that had more in it, than what they posted, except for some unmentioned bug fixes, and possibly some power changes.
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Originally Posted by Venture
I particularly do not want level 20 TFs. We don't need anything under level 50.
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to be fair, they haven't done something like that in a looooooong time now.
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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
I recall when the Issue with Dual Blades was announced there was a fairly long period when people complained that they didn't like the looks of the swords; and then the devs announced "Oh, by the way - Weapon Customization!"
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I am going to have to disagree, in that new costome pieces is something enjoyed by all (even soloists), and there wasn't a mention of that anywhere or power poliferation. This definitely will be the first issue where it is heavily team oriented, until we obtain more information. Obviously, to create an end game after so many years have passed, it was fairly cleary that the next few issues would be heavy on building up the frame work of it. But I haven't seen evidence for I20 surprassing the last few issues, so only time will tell.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
It's not like this is the first time that there has been an issue focused on grouping. It's also not unheard of for an issue to focus on solo content. Like Issue 17, 18.
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The Looking For Group / Turnstile system is only working for the two Incarnate Trials (BAF & Lambda) of Issue 20. Individuals as well as teams or whole Leagues can enter the turnstile to join an iTrial. When they finally do enter the iTrial, they will be grouped together in one League.
Leagues can be formed anytime, even outside an iTrial. Leagues will work for Cathedral of Pain Trials or Lord Winter's Realm in an instanced mission; or out in open zones for the Hami Raid; Mothership Raid; PvP Zone battles, costume contests, zone invasions (Rikti, Zombies, deadly apocalypse); or zone events (Steel fires, Sky trolls, new Praetorian zone events).
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I don't expect much story (TFs and Raids aren't really conducive), but going on the previous analogy I made of "Content is stuff I do", then even for any other problems I might have with it, the idea that there it's "light on content" is nuts! Lighter than the last two issues? Sure. But that's like complaining i7 was lighter on content than the initial CoV release.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Anyone who thinks this issue is light on content is being ridiculous. A cursory review of the other issues shows that this issue is on the beefier side.
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I can accept that, at the least.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/gam..._overview.html
Confirmation for one, and a clear tease that the other will work outside the trials at some point. |
This would be brilliant, if it's in i20. If not then we're back to jam tomorrow, which annoys me. I don't particularly want to wait until i21 in August/September to get it.
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The Looking For Group / Turnstile system is only working for the two Incarnate Trials (BAF & Lambda) of Issue 20. Individuals as well as teams or whole Leagues can enter the turnstile to join an iTrial. When they finally do enter the iTrial, they will be grouped together in one League. Leagues can be formed anytime, even outside an iTrial. Leagues will work for Cathedral of Pain Trials or Lord Winter's Realm in an instanced mission; or out in open zones for the Hami Raid; Mothership Raid; PvP Zone battles, costume contests, zone invasions (Rikti, Zombies, deadly apocalypse); or zone events (Steel fires, Sky trolls, new Praetorian zone events). |
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When the actual issue was announced, ala what we got today, Weapon Customization came with it. Dual Blades was announced way in advance (sorta like the raids for i20 were), then the actual Issue press release came out and the Devs were all like "See, toldja there was a reason we weren't calling it 'Duel Swords'!"
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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
I recall when the Issue with Dual Blades was announced there was a fairly long period when people complained that they didn't like the looks of the swords; and then the devs announced "Oh, by the way - Weapon Customization!"
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Before I wrote the post you quoted I looked back at the last ten issues. The last issue (Issue 18 notwithstanding since it was an expansion) to have this much content was Issue 12. I'm being nice when I said people are being ridiculous. For some reason I thought of two capital Qs! |
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Have to agree. The amount of "story" being intro'd is awesome. They also (finally) give a reason (though some may argue a not very good one) for why the jokes that WERE the Praetorians have suddenly been powered up.
Didn't the issue where Khan/Baracuda was released ONLY contain that? I mean if they call Issue 20 small, what the hell would they call that issue? |
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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OK, that's reasonable. |
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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