Issue 20 info is up!
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Posted on: 2011-03-01 11:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Yo Joe!
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, knowing is half the battle
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I think the black heliiocotpers cover that villain side. Want more info for issue 20 though!
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Originally Posted by Socorro
There's this little blurb stuck in there...
*Quality of Life Enhancements I hope that means a few new costums parts, etc. |
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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Confirmation that there will be one or more Incarnate slots unlocked in an issue called Incarnates?
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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I don't think I20 will end up being better than I19, but I am waiting for MORE info. |
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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That's a valid complaint, I don't think they usually withhold information like that with these issue announcements. All I can possibly say right now is patience.
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Originally Posted by Smersh
Confirmation that there will be one or more Incarnate slots unlocked in an issue called Incarnates?
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heh, I agree sounds like plenty for me. I'm good. Hell I would have been good with just the fact that there is another path to get into the Incarnate System.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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But once again I can see how folks want them to focus on other storylines that have been left stale for some time in favor of "goatee universe" (I LOL every time I rea dthat) may not be too excited for Issue 20. Or those who were hoping for a bone to be thrown to pvp or bases.
I think Issue 20 is fantastic but can see how/why some may not be pleased.
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I can't disagree more. I spend 90% of my playtime around the 20-30 range. The focus on 50s lately is fantastic for those who have been asking for it, and I'm happy for them. But we need stuff under 50.|
Originally Posted by Venture
I particularly do not want level 20 TFs. We don't need anything under level 50.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
In the past, those players could wait until the next issue. Don't like i7's villain focus? I8 was all heroes. Don't care about inventions? Next issue we'll wrap up the Rikti storyline. And if you get bored of Rikti, in the issue after that they barely appear at all. The precedent has been "if you don't like it, don't worry, we know not everybody likes the same things and we'll come up with something else you might like in a few months."
The last three issues have been "don't like Praetoria? Well we like Praetoria and we think you should like it too." And the last two issues? "Don't like raids and task forces? Well you can farm up a ton of Shards, we guess, but it'll have to be a lot of Shards because we like raids and task forces and we think you should like them too." |
I'm happy that we're getting endgame and that this Praetoria storyline is being continued. Players want this, and I enjoy some of it. But lately it feels like that's all we're getting. I was genuinely suprised we were getting a pair of TFs that didn't cap at 50.
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OK, that's fair. I pretty much assume that's coming since the Sneak Peek BAF trial talked about earning exp towards new slots.
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Originally Posted by Smersh
Confirmation that there will be one or more Incarnate slots unlocked in an issue called Incarnates?
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The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
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That last bit only applies to the two new trials, though. For regular teaming, the queue system does nothing. Heck, unless you feel like street sweeping potentially for hours at a time, you're still going to have to organize a raid like normal anyway, so the queues...still don't really matter a lot, as near as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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It would be . . . pretty errr "interesting" to not have at least another slot open in an issue called INCARNATES.|
Originally Posted by Smersh
Confirmation that there will be one or more Incarnate slots unlocked in an issue called Incarnates?
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Just saying.
Patience, as someone said.
EDIT: Then again I can see how some would want confirmation on that and not want to just assume.
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Originally Posted by Smersh
Confirmation that there will be one or more Incarnate slots unlocked in an issue called Incarnates?
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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
That's a valid complaint, I don't think they usually withhold information like that with these issue announcements. All I can possibly say right now is patience.
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Although, if the Devs actually did decide to do something so epically stupid like not including new Incarnate content in an issue called "Incarnates" it would at least be worth a good laugh to see fringe lunacy like yours justified here.
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The huge mechanic improvements to actually apply to grouping and not just running the two new trials. That'd do me actually and be a massive improvement to how I play the game.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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Seeing as how the Alpha Slot was pushed out of GR at nearly the last moment . . . yeah I can see how some folks would want confirmation.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Can you imagine how silly it would be if that -wasn't- going to be the case?
Although, if the Devs actually did decide to do something so epically stupid like not including new Incarnate content in an issue called "Incarnates" it would at least be worth a good laugh to see fringe lunacy like yours justified here. |
I don't think it's fringe lunacy at all.
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I look at it like this. On September 10, 2001, the United States and its people had a lot going on. The next day, everything changed. Things that seemed really important stopped being so important.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
heh, I agree sounds like plenty for me. I'm good. Hell I would have been good with just the fact that there is another path to get into the Incarnate System.
But once again I can see how folks want them to focus on other storylines that have been left stale for some time in favor of "goatee universe" (I LOL every time I rea dthat) may not be too excited for Issue 20. Or those who were hoping for a bone to be thrown to pvp or bases. I think Issue 20 is fantastic but can see how/why some may not be pleased. |
Likewise, Primal Earth has been invaded by a mad man-god and his rabid followers. All that other crap needs to be put on the shelf for a bit until we take this sum 'O a gun down.
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Hmmm, reading this comment again, it seems I misunderstood how the League system works.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
The huge mechanic improvements to actually apply to grouping and not just running the two new trials. That'd do me actually and be a massive improvement to how I play the game.
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Can it not be used to organize regular 8 man teams?
(Wasn't something we were focused on testing during the BAF test
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I want the devs to remember that one of the strengths of this game is its soloability. There is absolutely nothing in this Issue that isn't group based.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Two Co-Op trials; a hero and villain specific TF; huge mechanics improvements to grouping. What the heck do you folks want?
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Well to be fair GR wasn't called "Alpha slot 100% certain to be here". |
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Seeing as how the Alpha Slot was pushed out of GR at nearly the last moment . . . yeah I can see how some folks would want confirmation.
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Perhaps my phrase "fringe lunacy" was a tad much. But I think to have overactive concerns we're going to have a repeat of what happened to the Alpha slot it a bit unwarranted as well.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
I look at it like this. On September 10, 2001, the United States and its people had a lot going on. The next day, everything changed. Things that seemed really important stopped being so important.
Likewise, Primal Earth has been invaded by a mad man-god and his rabid followers. All that other crap needs to be put on the shelf for a bit until we take this sum 'O a gun down. |
However, there are still plenty of threats that I would not necessarily call it best to ignore.
Rularuu comes to mind.
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Then can we go ahead and take him down? It's been 3 issues now.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Likewise, Primal Earth has been invaded by a mad man-god and his rabid followers. All that other crap needs to be put on the shelf for a bit until we take this sum 'O a gun down.
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Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Well to be fair GR wasn't called "Alpha slot 100% certain to be here".
Perhaps my phrase "fringe lunacy" was a tad much. But I think to have overactive concerns we're going to have a repeat of what happened to the Alpha slot it a bit unwarranted as well. |
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
The huge mechanic improvements to actually apply to grouping and not just running the two new trials. That'd do me actually and be a massive improvement to how I play the game.
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Originally Posted by Issue 20: Incarnates Overview
Now, characters can form or join groups of up to 48 characters. Leagues can be formed anywhere in Paragon City, the Rogue Isles, or Praetoria, for any purpose from attacks on the Rikti Mothership to costume contests.
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| This feature is currently only available for Incarnate Trials on the same server.) |
Confirmation for one, and a clear tease that the other will work outside the trials at some point.
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We will in about 3 more issues past 20.|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Then can we go ahead and take him down? It's been 3 issues now.
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For folks that don't like tfs and trails, yeah nothing in the issue for them.
I also laugh at the folks who say "wait there will be more". When they hell has that been true recently?
The issue looks like a solid issue that builds further on Preatoria and probably offers ways to get into the Incarnate system without the nonsense of the WST, and allowing folks to ignore Mender Ramiel. That's a win to me. (Based on other dev comments and the info for the BAF, NOT JUST the issue 20 overview for those wondering.)
Should there be more for folks who despise the praetorian storyline? Sure.
But I'd assume that's coming in future issues.
EDIT: With that said future issues need to get back to the unfinished areas of the game: namely pvp and bases. The lack of ANY work on them is starting to become obvious even to people who cover mmos in the press, as was mentioned in a recent article.
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