Issue 20 info is up!
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-03-01 11:34 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
devs on unicorns handing out free Super Boosters and PvP IOs.
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So that was just a dream of mine afterall then?
Sadface.
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Issue 18 also reintroduced the CoP, which is group content. Before the Alpha slot was pulled, Task Forces were the most efficient way to both unlock and fill the slot.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
It's not like this is the first time that there has been an issue focused on grouping. It's also not unheard of for an issue to focus on solo content. Like Issue 17, 18.
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Issue 17 included the Positron Task Force revamp, which is team content.
As for issues focused on grouping:
Issue 15 was a mini-issue, and also included some AE improvements. AE is solo-friendly.
Issue 12 included both the ITF and the soloable Midnight Squad unlock arc and improvements to the Hollows.
Issue 10 had quite a bit of team content, with the LGTF, Mothership raids and zone invasions, but also included four soloable arcs.
Issue 9 had the STF and villain Hami, but Inventions allowed solo progress.
Issue 20 brings us team content, teaming improvements, and soloers get....an easier way to get around redside.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Didn't the issue where Khan/Baracuda was released ONLY contain that?
I mean if they call Issue 20 small, what the hell would they call that issue?  |
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It is possible I20 will be split up like I19, but I think it would be a mistake, based on perception, given that I20 is supposed to be a game changing issue top to bottom. I20 as of right now is merely forming the backbone for end game content, but end game content isn't the entire game, so an interesting dilemma is upon us... :P
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I think we may see parts of both Judgement AND Lore in I20, with the rest of both slots coming in I20.5.|
Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
It is possible I20 will be split up like I19, but I think it would be a mistake. based on perception. given that I20 is supposed to be a game changing issue top to bottom. I20 as of right now is merely forming the backbone for end game content, but end game content isn't the entire game, so an interesting dilemma is upon us... :P
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But this is just MY speculation.
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And it is, unless you have a thorn in your side.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
A mini-issue. It never pretended to be anything but. Issue 20 promised to be epic.
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"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."
Why am I not surprised? Well, I guess respec badges and more Black Helicopters will have to do.
So when's I21 coming out, then?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Taste differs, but I too don't think it is epic based on the info released thus far. Maybe it will be more epic in I21 or I22, but right now it seems like too much pre game, and the start of kickoff is far, far, far away. :P
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
And it is, unless you have a thorn in your side.
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Or forced teaming isn't the light of your life, but we all know that people who like to play solo shouldn't play MMOs, so eh.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
And it is, unless you have a thorn in your side.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Around the time the information for the new issues comes out is the period of greatest hysteria this board ever sees. I'm tempted to take a week off from the forum to let things die down.
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Well, judging from what the EU sneak peakers are reporting of the Lambda Sector preview, the good news is more slots might open up after all, the bad news is "if you don't like team content, you should do team content because we want you to like team content."
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Or forced teaming isn't the light of your life, but we all know that people who like to play solo shouldn't play MMOs, so eh.
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To be reasonable people who like to play solo probably shouldn't demand the other hypothetical extreme that everything in a MMO must be 100% soloable either.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Or forced teaming isn't the light of your life, but we all know that people who like to play solo shouldn't play MMOs, so eh.
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The perfect balance of solo vs. team is probably somewhere in the middle... just like this game happens to be geared for.
Imagine that.
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win.
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Originally Posted by lothic
to be reasonable people who like to play solo probably shouldn't demand the other hypothetical extreme that everything in a mmo must be 100% soloable either.
The perfect balance of solo vs. Team is probably somewhere in the middle... Just like this game happens to be geared for. Imagine that. |
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I'm not "demanding" anything. I look at the new Issue and discover it has two Trials, two TFs, an improvement on the system for finding Trials to play...|
Originally Posted by Lothic
To be reasonable people who like to play solo probably shouldn't demand the other hypothetical extreme that everything in a MMO must be 100% soloable either.
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And Respec Badges plus more Black Helicopters in Nerva and Grandville, I assume one near the Primeva beach and one at the Fab.
I don't even see any new costume pieces, let alone customization options or powerset proliferation, or any regular storyarcs or really anything much that doesn't have a minimum team size requirement.
I know I'm going to get belittled for this, but can you see how this might be ever so slightly disappointing to me? I20 has not a single thing I actually want. I don't recall another Issue that has had less I could use, and I count I4 in there.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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We shall see, but I hope some more information on I20 is trickled along soon enough.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm not "demanding" anything. I look at the new Issue and discover it has two Trials, two TFs, an improvement on the system for finding Trials to play...
And Respec Badges plus more Black Helicopters in Nerva and Grandville, I assume one near the Primeva beach and one at the Fab. I don't even see any new costume pieces, let alone customization options or powerset proliferation, or any regular storyarcs or really anything much that doesn't have a minimum team size requirement. I know I'm going to get belittled for this, but can you see how this might be ever so slightly disappointing to me? I20 has not a single thing I actually want. I don't recall another Issue that has had less I could use, and I count I4 in there. |
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Originally Posted by Master Zaprobo
Quick Notes...
I have screenies, but more once I finish testing (just had a CTD hence this quick post) |
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I'm not going to belittle because you apparently got nothing you like out of this Issue. I'll just point out that there's never been any guarantee that any Issue is supposed to be 100% acceptable to everyone. Better luck next time?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm not "demanding" anything. I look at the new Issue and discover it has two Trials, two TFs, an improvement on the system for finding Trials to play...
And Respec Badges plus more Black Helicopters in Nerva and Grandville, I assume one near the Primeva beach and one at the Fab. I don't even see any new costume pieces, let alone customization options or powerset proliferation, or any regular storyarcs or really anything much that doesn't have a minimum team size requirement. I know I'm going to get belittled for this, but can you see how this might be ever so slightly disappointing to me? I20 has not a single thing I actually want. I don't recall another Issue that has had less I could use, and I count I4 in there. |
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Incarnate XP? Not touching that can of worms. :P
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Originally Posted by Gemini_2099
Incarnate XP? Not touching that can of worms. :P
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Still "eh" to raids.
New TF/SF - OK. Not jumping up and down, but if they don't need 8 person teams (or a silly "Be slotted with Alpha or face a "You're useless!" debuff!") I'll be glad to run them with smaller teams. That's where I'm comfortable.
Waiting for later info releases. Current excitement level: meh.
And, really, Cole vs the Multiverse? Blah. Why don't we get the OTHER multiverse-threat to play with, Ruularu?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
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You know how I felt during Issue 18. An expansion I paid money for.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm not "demanding" anything. I look at the new Issue and discover it has two Trials, two TFs, an improvement on the system for finding Trials to play...
And Respec Badges plus more Black Helicopters in Nerva and Grandville, I assume one near the Primeva beach and one at the Fab. I don't even see any new costume pieces, let alone customization options or powerset proliferation, or any regular storyarcs or really anything much that doesn't have a minimum team size requirement. I know I'm going to get belittled for this, but can you see how this might be ever so slightly disappointing to me? I20 has not a single thing I actually want. I don't recall another Issue that has had less I could use, and I count I4 in there. |
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Does this mean what I think it does? because if it does score! Alpha slot was cool and all but just a stat boost not excatly what I was expecting for incarnates and new powers are where the bread and butter of the incarnate system will shine I think.
| Alpha, Judgement, Lore, Destiny and Interface are all visible on this build |
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Seriously? SERIOUSLY? More new currency? S.E.R.I.O.U.S.L.Y.?!
| Incarnate Shards are not used for the Judgement Slot - Incarnate Threads are |
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Could quite concievably be to stop people from converting their shards over to threads to insta unlock Interface/Destiny or Judgement/Lore slots (10 shards to a thread)|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Seriously? SERIOUSLY? More new currency? S.E.R.I.O.U.S.L.Y.?!
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You can also use Incarnate Threads to gain XP/unlock the above tree's (2 of which have Incarante level shifts... which are ONLY active in Incarnate Raids).
Remember as well that you will be able to get shards from killing *anything* in the game
"This issue is content light!" WHAT THE F are you SMOKING?
"This issue focuses again on the goatee universe! I'm tired of Praetoria"... slightly valid complaint.
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