Crashing repeatedly, maybe level shift related.


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Just completed a LRSF. Team mate unslotted their Rare at the start because Mission 1 was crashing. Ran through, beat it. Claimed rewards.
I Crafted the Rare slot while in mission.

Entire Team Disconnected, all bar one lost ALL their rewards.
What. The. HELL MAN?! Who let this through testing? This is bloody abysmal!
Alas, when this hit test I saw a lot of discussion but precious little testing. Alas the EU test server copy tool was bust (again) so I couldn't arrange the tests I wanted (checking MM compatibility)


 

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Finished the STF (same team as some of the others from Victory) - put together my third tier and armed it before getting DC'd from the Task Force.

When I relogged, my second tier was slotted (third did not exist) and I no longer had my Notice of the Well.

Asked on the Vic forum and was told this is a known issue, but couldn't find info on it. Anyone run into a solution or should I just wait for the /petition response?

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This problem is at "red alert" status, just had 4 team crashes on last mission of STF when we had to bail. One team crash came when we were just about to start towers. Someone needs to get on this asap.
We had the same thing happen on the stf.

We would kill the inner circle in the last mission and boom the entire team would get mapserved and the the map would reset. That happened three times the 4th time LR and the towers didn't spawn for 20 minutes.


 

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What. The. HELL MAN?! Who let this through testing? This is bloody abysmal!
You mean the testing from last Thursday (Jan 27, 2011), over Double XP weekend?

Issue 19: Strike Pack - Patch notes for build 1950.201101250108.0

Do you honestly think 5 days on the Test Server while everyone is ignoring it qualifies as "testing"? This smacks of a upper management/publisher feature push for marketing hype.




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You mean the testing from last Thursday (Jan 27, 2011), over Double XP weekend?

Issue 19: Strike Pack - Patch notes for build 1950.201101250108.0

Do you honestly think 5 days on the Test Server while everyone is ignoring it qualifies as "testing"? This smacks of a upper management/publisher feature push for marketing hype.
Doesn't help that as far as I know, the weekly target wasn't enabled or known either.


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I've just mapserv'd 4 times in a row. On a solo character, without a Rare Alpha power, on a mission map.

1. Enter mission map (Mission "Destroy the Legacy Chain's Army" from Vincent Ross).
2. Henchmen are unresponsive. /releasepets, resummon.
3. Run to Arcanist Micham.
4. Mapserv within the first few kills of the first wave. It seems to be about when Micham dies, but I'm not certain.

When reloading, all my powers are recharged and the mission is reset.

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Any chance the mapserv issues have more to do with the rampant power and line outage issues going on through a sizable chunk of the country?
Considering the extreme regularity of my own mapserv issue, I doubt that's the case. It's also obviously not solely due to Rare Alpha powers, though that could be a part of the problem. The mission I'm running does grant the pseudo-Incarnate power [Blood Coral Empowerment]. However, it doesn't grant level shift, so that wouldn't be the connection.


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Apparently, it's not only crafting that can cause the crash - if anyone on the team is already running at +1, it can have the same effect.


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It is NOT due to anything with the Alpha slot OR teaming. I was running solo missions on a level 33 blaster when I was mapserved 5 times in 10 minutes before I gave up. Dallas is having ice storms today, which may be the root of it.


 

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Tested, yet again using my [Nerve Partial Radial Revamp] in a Villain Tip mission (Attack Nemesis Base). Ran to first spawn (after upgrading henchmen) and...



So, I log back in and give it another go. Run straight to the first spawn (once again after summoning henchmen) and...



So, after another attempt (not screenied) I switch down to a freshly crafted [Nerve Radial Boost] and what do you know...



... all is well, spawn defeated and I cleared the mission no problem. So, despite the now official announcement it is NOT limited to the Weekly Strike Target.


 

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no issues on guardian at all when i did it the 2nd time tonight and 3 of us were running at +1


 

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It is NOT due to anything with the Alpha slot OR teaming. I was running solo missions on a level 33 blaster when I was mapserved 5 times in 10 minutes before I gave up. Dallas is having ice storms today, which may be the root of it.
I ran the STF Today and crafted Musculature: Total Core Revamp. I crafted it and slotted it after I exited The STF. then I ran a couple missions with it.

No problems what so ever. No crashes, didn't loose anything.

I really don't think that the alpha boosts are causing the crashes. I think everyone is getting alpha boosts since it's the first day, and crashes are happening a lot for un-related reasons, and it's unfortunate that some people are losing their rewards.


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I ran the STF Today and crafted Musculature: Total Core Revamp. I crafted it and slotted it after I exited The STF. then I ran a couple missions with it.

No problems what so ever. No crashes, didn't loose anything.

I really don't think that the alpha boosts are causing the crashes. I think everyone is getting alpha boosts since it's the first day, and crashes are happening a lot for un-related reasons, and it's unfortunate that some people are losing their rewards.
I crafted Musculature: Total Radial Revamp, slotted it, and ran some missions solo. I mapserve in the first spawn every time.

I unslot it, I no longer mapserve.

This is on Virtue.

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Point of clarity, not contesting your experience. Simply stating that there is something at play that strongly indicates that for some, at least, the rare alpha slot is causing kerboomage.


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I really don't think that the alpha boosts are causing the crashes. I think everyone is getting alpha boosts since it's the first day, and crashes are happening a lot for un-related reasons, and it's unfortunate that some people are losing their rewards.
I would believe that if it weren't for several people crashing constantly and repeatedly until they remove their level shift, at which point they can continue just fine. No, it's not happening to everybody -- but that doesn't mean there is not a problem. The problem could be in the way that the Level Shift interacts with some other power, invention, pets, temporary power, or something else completely unrelated in a character.

If I slot my Level Shift and run a Task Force, I crash every 5 minutes (by the clock). If I unslot it, I don't crash even once. Sure, there might be other unrelated crashes due to server stability, but it's too repeatable to be just a coincidence.

Also: it's easy to think there's not a problem when it's not happening to you.

In any case, it's in the devs' hands now. We reported, they took Notice that something is not Well, now we just have to wait for a fix.


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I crafted Musculature: Total Radial Revamp, slotted it, and ran some missions solo. I mapserve in the first spawn every time.

I unslot it, I no longer mapserve.

This is on Virtue.

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Point of clarity, not contesting your experience. Simply stating that there is something at play that strongly indicates that for some, at least, the rare alpha slot is causing kerboomage.
I've been wrong before. Their is an official announcement I just read saying stay away from upper tier alpha boosts, for now. So who knows. I still think it'd be a damn weird bug if this was what was causing the map serves


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I really don't think that the alpha boosts are causing the crashes. I think everyone is getting alpha boosts since it's the first day, and crashes are happening a lot for un-related reasons, and it's unfortunate that some people are losing their rewards.
I'm suspecting that it's an issue with the level shifting but isn't affecting all people (for whatever reason). See my testing above - it was reliably crashing with the level shift, and reliably stable without the level shift.

I appreciate that perhaps not everyone is affected or that it isn't every map that will have a mapserver crash (hence why I've been posting mission titles) but I don't think this can be blown off as a non-issue.


 

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It's not only affecting tf's have people dc'ing alot and crashing on freedom.
Also might as well report on other issues i have with 19.5
I'm also having severe fps drops since 19.5 in arena instances. Didn't have these issues before the patch.

I run catalyst 10.12


 

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I'm suspecting that it's an issue with the level shifting but isn't affecting all people (for whatever reason). See my testing above - it was reliably crashing with the level shift, and reliably stable without the level shift.

I appreciate that perhaps not everyone is affected or that it isn't every map that will have a mapserver crash (hence why I've been posting mission titles) but I don't think this can be blown off as a non-issue.

Just as a quick aside, a fellow villain told me that in his mission on his freshly level shifted character, Shock Treatment was a 50 (+1). Are your robots being level shifted when you have your Rare Alpha slotted? I'm very curious.


 

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Just as a quick aside, a fellow villain told me that in his mission on his freshly level shifted character, Shock Treatment was a 50 (+1). Are your robots being level shifted when you have your Rare Alpha slotted? I'm very curious.
Pets do get level shifted. Allies in missions... I don't think they should be.


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Just as a quick aside, a fellow villain told me that in his mission on his freshly level shifted character, Shock Treatment was a 50 (+1). Are your robots being level shifted when you have your Rare Alpha slotted? I'm very curious.
Assault Bot goes 50(+1), Protector Bots as 49 (+1), and Battle Drones as 48 (+1).

Force Field Generator and Acid Mortar are 50(+1).


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A friend and I were helping another VG-game unlock the Alpha slot. Two of us were level-shifted, and we all mapserved during the fight with the Honoree. Twice. Specifically, we mapserved when he reached about 1/6 health both times. We didn't bother going for a third round since each time the mission was reset.



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Pets do get level shifted. Allies in missions... I don't think they should be.
I remember doing a tip mission very recently where an ally that spawned as +2 due to my difficulty settings dropped down to the same level as me after I rescued it. I guess it's some new tech.


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My controllers pet, Flytrap got the level shift, as did the Carrion Creeper Vines, Now I wonder about the pseudo pets you get, like lightning storm and the like


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It is NOT due to anything with the Alpha slot OR teaming. I was running solo missions on a level 33 blaster when I was mapserved 5 times in 10 minutes before I gave up. Dallas is having ice storms today, which may be the root of it.
We had one before sunrise. Since the sun has come up, the weather has been fine. Really cold, but fine.


 

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Fwiw, I ran an LRSF with 2 team members who already had the tier 3 slot, nobody mapserved or crashed for the duration. A couple hours later ran an LGTF with 1 team member who a tier 3, and I crafted and slotted my own tier 3 between missions 1&2, and again no mapserves or crashes. Then ran a solo mission with the same char, no problems. This was on Freedom.

Also ran an STF after that on Victory with nobody having issues, but I'm unsure whether anyone had already got their tier 3 in that one. And probably unrelated, but my /netgraph is currently showing massive amounts of packet loss etc (about 90% red or yellow blocks) in Cap au Diable in Freedom at the black market (improved a little inside the university, pretty much went away in Sharkhead).

Edit: I can't remember the exact team makeup, but the LRSF it was a ???/Stone Brute and a ???/Kinetic Corruptor who were level shifted, while the LGTF it was a Night Widow and myself on a Crab (summoning Spiderlings and Disruptor Bots regularly).


 

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I think it would help if we made a note on the archetypes and builds which are (or are not) getting the crash. As mentioned previously, it may be specific powers being wonky.

As for the tons of crashes a couple hours ago, I'm going to guess having so many people logged on may have been an influencing factor. Right now would be a better gauge of what else is causing crashes.