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This has nothing to do even with the post you're responding to, let anyone the thread.|
Originally Posted by Twisted Toon
Which does nothing to disprove that Political Correctness is rapidly outliving it's usefulness.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, and this isn't the place to discuss it anyway.
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If I'm not mistaken, the post I had responded to was talking about the PCing of some of Mark Twain's books.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
This has nothing to do even with the post you're responding to, let anyone the thread.
You have no idea what you're talking about, and this isn't the place to discuss it anyway. |
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
The story takes an entirely different turn if you know the whole thing. NewSouth Books is printing the alternate version so that students in schools which have banned Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn (the altered edition contains both stories, and Tom Sawyer is edited in two spots, as well) may have the opportunity to study it.
It's not the publisher that's trying to be PC, the publisher is trying to get the book into schools that are being PC. |
I do know what I am talking about. Whether you share the same opinion is totally up to you. Quite frankly, I don't care if you do or not.
But, you are probably correct that this, most likely, isn't the place to discuss it.
One out of three.
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Really? Funny, I never noticed that. In any case, I was just thinking something along the lines of what that glitch (if it is a glitch) does - why shouldn't there be random Child NPCs wandering around in peaceful neighborhoods? Since you can't attack the random for-flavor citizens that walk from place to place telling you what time it is, or if you've recently finished an arc, telling other people what you've been doing, I can't for the life of me figure a reason that they should all be adults.
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Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
Sometimes in the Rogue Isles (Port Oakes in particular), I will see an unusally short citizen walking around. Maybe its just a glitch with the NPC height scale, but sometimes these shorties are even sporting "youthful" looking clothes and hairstyles, which makes me suspect they are meant to represent chidlren. Although they still kind of look like just really short adults.
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One of my alts is an eight year old boy (Billy Riker) who found a dying Nictus (K'Tem'Bok). The Nictus attached himself to Billy to save himself. Billy's innocence had a profound effect on the Nictus, who decided to reform himself. They fight crime together as Squid Billy! (Billy's idea, BTW.)
I find your lack of signature disturbing.
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I get so frustratingly sick of this attitude.|
Originally Posted by Reiyichi
I can totally understand why there are no children in this game. Because society as a whole, is pretty stupid, and if you give them something like playable children, or even NPC children, in an MMO, they WILL do very stupid and perverted things with them. I am ok with the height slider and the other sliders to make my child heroes and villains, though the chest slider for the girl models is annoying, I wind up with little girls who seem to have hit puberty really early.
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No female pets because Posi thinks mysogynists will abuse the concept. No children because disturbed players might act inappropriately around them. None of this because someone -might-, -MIGHT- misuse it.
You know what? There is a mechanism for punishing people who misuse the system, and it's worked perfectly well for seven years. This game has developed a relatively mature, stable user base, because our community watches itself and we have responsible, well trained moderators that settle disputes.
I refuse to believe that issues like this are a disaster waiting to happen. Putting children NPCs in game wouldn't hurt anything, because last I checked, you couldn't really -do- much to NPCs aside from train villians into their general vicinity and watch them run away, invulnerable. And if anybody found a way to do something inapporpriate, well report them to the mods. That's what those people are -there- for.
Attitudes like this are depressing and needlessly harmful, and a lot of times they keep the game from growing. I don't particularly -care- if children NPCs show up in game or not, but I object to the principle of censoring yourself to guard against the behavior of a very small outlying group of miscreants. If you abridge your own free speech in fear of what someone else might do with it, then what is the point of having it in the first place?
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It isn't just censoring yourself. Censoring yourself assumes that you do work then deprive yourself of that work to prevent something bad from happening.|
Originally Posted by Heavensrun
I get so frustratingly sick of this attitude.
No female pets because Posi thinks mysogynists will abuse the concept. No children because disturbed players might act inappropriately around them. None of this because someone -might-, -MIGHT- misuse it. You know what? There is a mechanism for punishing people who misuse the system, and it's worked perfectly well for seven years. This game has developed a relatively mature, stable user base, because our community watches itself and we have responsible, well trained moderators that settle disputes. I refuse to believe that issues like this are a disaster waiting to happen. Putting children NPCs in game wouldn't hurt anything, because last I checked, you couldn't really -do- much to NPCs aside from train villians into their general vicinity and watch them run away, invulnerable. And if anybody found a way to do something inapporpriate, well report them to the mods. That's what those people are -there- for. Attitudes like this are depressing and needlessly harmful, and a lot of times they keep the game from growing. I don't particularly -care- if children NPCs show up in game or not, but I object to the principle of censoring yourself to guard against the behavior of a very small outlying group of miscreants. If you abridge your own free speech in fear of what someone else might do with it, then what is the point of having it in the first place? |
Creating kids for the game... with real kid actions, real kid dialogue, and real kid purpose... so they're not just adult NPC's that are randomly swapped out.... that takes design time and effort. Creating alternative MM pets does too. Female MM pets would also require tech to allow selectable pets.
When you're deciding where to put your development resources, you ask "what are the benefits and drawbacks for doing X" and you focus your energies on the stuff that gives you the best overall benefit. When Positron mentioned the misogynists, he was just hilighting a drawback that tipped the scales in favor of developing something else other than that. It wasn't a hardline "we'll never do this because x" but one of "if we can do x or y, and x has this drawback while y doesn't... y wins." Once y is out of the way, they might look at comparing X and Z, decide that now X has more merit than z for other reasons and then go forward with it.
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Here´s your chance to watch the whole movie |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Anyone here watched Charlie Chaplin's 'The Kid?' Didn't get a chance to watch all of it, due to it only popping up briefly in our cinematography lecture.
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As it was released before 1923, The Kid has public domain status.
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They could just remove the citizens in mayhems being attackable. It serves no purpouse and just makes targetting a pain.|
Originally Posted by TheShattered
See, then children would be part of the 'Citizens' group found milling about in Mayhem missions. I don't think anyone would be too pleased if you could throw great balls of fire at them, despite the fact that Citizens are (Annoyingly) invincible for some reason.
I mean, why didn't they just send wave after wave of Citizens at the Rikti, since they don't seem to ever get hurt. Even with Brawl, the Rikti would get swamped and drowned in a wave of angry citizens.. *Wanders off ranting* |
The number of attacks I've wasted because I auto targeted to them...
It's not hard for a player to make a teenage or childlike character. The devs have allowed and to an extent, encouraged that with some of the costume options. So I wouldn't complain about that too much.
As for child NPCs, there's always Baby New Year. Creepier'n hell, and that explains why there aren't more of them.
Due to the ongoing Rikti war and now the Praetorian war, maybe they've all been shipped off to safer climates.
Or the Rikti Monkeys are... no, that would be just silly... wouldn't it... ?...
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Yeah...I don't think the FBI cares about non-existant fantasy characters. They're charged with protecting REAL children.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
While some benefits would be obvious (creating young characters inspired by stories from my youth, like "The Dark is Rising" and "Chronicles of Narnia" series of books), there is the danger that a few unscrupulous individuals would portray the characters inappropriately, or interact with other player characters inappropriately. This goes beyond ESRB rating issues. The FBI takes child exploitation seriously, and devotes a sizable chunk of its resources to investigating crime online. Consequently, it would take only a small misunderstanding to give customer support a real headache. They should avoid the can of worms entirely.
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You would think so but people have gotten in trouble for cases of fictional child pornography. I believe I hard someone getting in trouble for writing Harry Potter slash fic for instance. I understand why they're reticent to do it.
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Originally Posted by Toony
Yeah...I don't think the FBI cares about non-existant fantasy characters. They're charged with protecting REAL children.
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Originally Posted by Blue_Mourning
You would think so but people have gotten in trouble for cases of fictional child pornography. I believe I hard someone getting in trouble for writing Harry Potter slash fic for instance. I understand why they're reticent to do it.
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Also, I don't buy that as it sorta violates free speech and expression.
I can understand why they wouldn't make children in a mechanical sense (too much for too little) and from a limited PR sense. Though from what I've seen, this has not stopped some people from making child characters (like in this thread, for example).
Also, even more worst villains wouldn't mind children not being targettable in Mayhems IF IT MEANT THE OTHER CITIZENS WEREN'T! GRAH, JUST LET ME TARGET THE SECURITY GUARDS AND YOU WON'T GET PUNCHED, OKAY?!
Though there are SOME graphic details in the game, namely an Arachnos base detail I've seen on the ceilings plenty of times...
And finally, on the note of Animals from the first page, one idea I had to compensate for this was simply have audio files where you could hear cats, dogs, and birds in the distance somewhere. You don't have to see them, but just the implication that they're there.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I can understand why they wouldn't make children in a mechanical sense (too much for too little) and from a limited PR sense. Though from what I've seen, this has not stopped some people from making child characters (like in this thread, for example).
Also, even more worst villains wouldn't mind children not being targettable in Mayhems IF IT MEANT THE OTHER CITIZENS WEREN'T! GRAH, JUST LET ME TARGET THE SECURITY GUARDS AND YOU WON'T GET PUNCHED, OKAY?! Though there are SOME graphic details in the game, namely an Arachnos base detail I've seen on the ceilings plenty of times... And finally, on the note of Animals from the first page, one idea I had to compensate for this was simply have audio files where you could hear cats, dogs, and birds in the distance somewhere. You don't have to see them, but just the implication that they're there. |
Something similar happened in that game that had the NGE. In the wall texture for one of the naboo structures was the outline of a nude female.
And what happened to the generic looking female NPC's in Port Oakes named "tart" or something asking if I wanted to spend good time? 
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Tart and Vixen are still there. One of my villains encountered them again not too long ago. I think where they show up is somewhat random.
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Originally Posted by Gaspard
And what happened to the generic looking female NPC's in Port Oakes named "tart" or something asking if I wanted to spend good time?
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Originally Posted by Heavensrun
I get so frustratingly sick of this attitude.
No female pets because Posi thinks mysogynists will abuse the concept. No children because disturbed players might act inappropriately around them. None of this because someone -might-, -MIGHT- misuse it. |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I love that sign. We need more signs similar to that in the world.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
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Oh ok, that's a relief.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Tart and Vixen are still there. One of my villains encountered them again not too long ago. I think where they show up is somewhat random.
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