War of the Worlds: Goliath
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Posted on: 2011-01-04 21:32 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? But anyway the trailer mentions in the final years of the 19th century??? Which means 15 years later is like WW1 time frame and the weapons etc are much far beyond that. Also its always bugged me the design concept that puts a big bad alien war machine on 3 fragile legs. Just a pet peeve there i guess.
Animation and stuff looks cool, but it kinda sounds like perhaps its been in production for a while now conisdering the trailer says its coming out in 2010 and the poster 2011. But whatever i might give it a shot.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? But anyway the trailer mentions in the final years of the 19th century??? |
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"No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water."
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lulz. Someone didn't read the book.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? But anyway the trailer mentions in the final years of the 19th century??? Which means 15 years later is like WW1 time frame and the weapons etc are much far beyond that. |
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? But anyway the trailer mentions in the final years of the 19th century??? Which means 15 years later is like WW1 time frame and the weapons etc are much far beyond that. Also its always bugged me the design concept that puts a big bad alien war machine on 3 fragile legs. Just a pet peeve there i guess. |
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"Total interstellar war"? So the Martians are really from a completely different solar system now?
Incidentally, there isn't much on the 'net in the way of credentials for the screenwriter or the director, though the latter has worked in animation in general for a while, working on everything from direct-to-video Highlander: The Search for Vengeance to a DuckTales movie.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? But anyway the trailer mentions in the final years of the 19th century??? Which means 15 years later is like WW1 time frame and the weapons etc are much far beyond that. Also its always bugged me the design concept that puts a big bad alien war machine on 3 fragile legs. Just a pet peeve there i guess. Animation and stuff looks cool, but it kinda sounds like perhaps its been in production for a while now conisdering the trailer says its coming out in 2010 and the poster 2011. But whatever i might give it a shot. |
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Your right i never read the book, my overall impressions of the subject matter is much more based on Orson Wells radio drama of the subject which dated it further up into the 20th century.
Though yes i didnt read the classic, i would also imagine that i am much more likely to be more reflective of the general population, which hasnt read the classic and will not understand why suddenly a movie that has that same name is not taking place in the same time frame as the experiences they have been subjected to in the past. And really to me the trailers tech and look appears much more in line with ww2 then ww1 in the look of tanks, military uniforms etc.
However within the same vien, assuming i accept that the story is taking place around the turn of the century, the weaponry and technology that humans are shown having in the trailer is still way out of date and way to advance for the time frame they are placing their story in, which is or was my bigger complaint after seening the trailer.
Like i said if it looks good ill prob give it a chance, but i really really tend to hate movies that over do humans technological limits in the timeframe they place the story into. It makes me think movies like Wild Wild West or even more recently to some extent Sherlock Holmes where it just seems like they want the stylized look of Ole England or the Cowboy flick but want to have the opportunity to put their CGI crews to work or make jumps in tech to answer questions the story boxes them into having no other solution for.
But fine ill take heat for not having read the old book if that is all anyone wants to center on. But lets just say i am willing to bet i am not in the minority of folks that associate WotW with Orson Wells radio drama more then the old book.
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It's not outside the realm of possibility that in the 15 years the Earthlings have had since the first Martian attack they might have learned a thing or two from studying Martian technology.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
However within the same vien, assuming i accept that the story is taking place around the turn of the century, the weaponry and technology that humans are shown having in the trailer is still way out of date and way to advance for the time frame they are placing their story in, which is or was my bigger complaint after seening the trailer.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
It makes me think movies like Wild Wild West or even more recently to some extent Sherlock Holmes where it just seems like they want the stylized look of Ole England or the Cowboy flick but want to have the opportunity to put their CGI crews to work or make jumps in tech to answer questions the story boxes them into having no other solution for.
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Leave this thread... you have shamed nerds everywhere and made yourself look foolish.
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Is it wrong that the time frame of the movie even from the trailer already is bugging me.
First off, WotWs happened in the 50s if i am not mistaken maybe 40s??? |
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Originally Posted by QuiJon
Your right i never read the book, my overall impressions of the subject matter is much more based on Orson Wells radio drama of the subject which dated it further up into the 20th century.
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| But lets just say i am willing to bet i am not in the minority of folks that associate WotW with Orson Wells radio drama more then the old book. |
I've got say that my favorite adaptation of the original War of the Worlds novel was its integration into the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comic.
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Orson spins in his grave every time misspells his name the same way as H. G.'s.
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All that aside i hope it's an interstellar war because the Martians are actually from another solar system with Mars as their local foothold, and not because the people making the movie are just too dumb to know what the terms they're throwing around really mean.
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The best War of the Worlds version I've heard, and remains so to this day is the classic Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds. Freaky mix of music, sound effects, and a rip-roaring narration by the incomparable Richard Burton. 
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It's possible that they're following the lead of Alan Moore, who, in the above-mentioned second volume of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, imagined Wells's Martians as originally invaders of Mars, not from. In his overstuffed scenario, the native Martians from other science fiction stories - primarily Edgar Rice Burroughs's and C.S. Lewis's, in addition to allusions to lesser-known authors' works - have been fighting a collective war against the tripod invaders and have nearly won when the book opens. While the natives believe they're on the verge of driving out the invaders, the tripod "Martians" are not so much retreating as preparing to launch their invasion of Earth in what will be Moore's take on The War of the Worlds.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
All that aside i hope it's an interstellar war because the Martians are actually from another solar system with Mars as their local foothold, and not because the people making the movie are just too dumb to know what the terms they're throwing around really mean.
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We'll see if this steampunk anime is able to come up with anything as interesting, should they be intentionally using the term "interstellar".
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It could be that the Martians plan on taking control of movie stars via mind control or nanobots or whatever, forcing them to them battle each other in public areas, thus distracting the population while they (the Martians) attempt to achieve their true goal unhindered (that being learning the secret of combining peanut butter and chocolate before the Earthlings complete their peanut butter/chocolate experiments). True, picture personality pickings were slim in that era, so the Martians might first have to invest a little time and energy into building up the motion picture industry, adding a dramatic race against time element to all the covert action. Ooh, this is going to be a GREAT FLICK!
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
i take it he's buried in California? Oh wait, California had earthquakes long before his burial.
All that aside i hope it's an interstellar war because the Martians are actually from another solar system with Mars as their local foothold, and not because the people making the movie are just too dumb to know what the terms they're throwing around really mean. |
Of all the invasion movies I've seen, I've never understood out of all the countless planets and galaxies that exist, we are the only ones that other species choose to invade (since few if any movies reference the alien invaders having been to other worlds before ours)
I will admit that I overanalyze that tidbit however, and most alien races see vast potential in us (such as in Star Trek, humanity will one day surpass the Q), so perhaps that is why they invade. When humans have technology of equal or greater advancement, they seldom, if ever lose.
The aliens in V (even though I don't watch the show) were smart to come early, and not wait until we had reached Starfleet levels of technology. 
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I think it's largely because the folks that make such films live on Earth and they're meant for the enjoyment of people who also live on Earth. Who's going to give a **** about the Klingons and Daleks teaming up to invade the Na'vi? At the most, only nerds.
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Originally Posted by Nightphall
Of all the invasion movies I've seen, I've never understood out of all the countless planets and galaxies that exist, we are the only ones that other species choose to invade (since few if any movies reference the alien invaders having been to other worlds before ours)
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Saw the trailer. Want now.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
It's being made by Heavy Metal, and its based on the idea the Martians are coming back 15 years later to attack earth a second time.
There's a pretty cool zeppelin aircraft carrier in the trailer. This is how the producers describe the movie. "War of the Worlds: Goliath" will feature selfless heroism, alien cruelty, base betrayal and passionate lovemaking framed by the life and death paradigm of total interstellar war. |
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Yeah, given that there's a Martian Heat Ray installed in the Earth walking tanks, it's almost certain that the human forces got a technological leap forward from all the Martian stuff left behind after the previous invasion attempt.|
Originally Posted by Flarstux
It's not outside the realm of possibility that in the 15 years the Earthlings have had since the first Martian attack they might have learned a thing or two from studying Martian technology.
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Originally Posted by Nightphall
Of all the invasion movies I've seen, I've never understood out of all the countless planets and galaxies that exist, we are the only ones that other species choose to invade (since few if any movies reference the alien invaders having been to other worlds before ours)
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
There is the idea that life-sustaining planets are pretty damn uncommon in the universe. Just a thought.
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Or, however plentiful they may be, they're still likely to be incredibly vast, literally astronomical distances from each other. Whether or not Wells realized it, an intrastellar invasion makes much more scientific sense.|
Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
There is the idea that life-sustaining planets are pretty damn uncommon in the universe.
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As for the evolution of complex/intelligent life, it comes down to where one thinks the Great Filter may fall.
It's being made by Heavy Metal, and its based on the idea the Martians are coming back 15 years later to attack earth a second time.
There's a pretty cool zeppelin aircraft carrier in the trailer.
This is how the producers describe the movie.
"War of the Worlds: Goliath" will feature selfless heroism, alien cruelty, base betrayal and passionate lovemaking framed by the life and death paradigm of total interstellar war.