Sexism in Costume Choices?

I wouldn't mind short pants. My MA scrapper needs some short pants for his boxing costume, since it'll be a long time before I can get the official boxing costume.

Um.... seriously, there's a huge issue here. Why can't a male samuri toon have a panda on his shoulder? Why can't male toons have the dragon/cloud bracers?

Long hair works for guys... like this one
http://www.finalfantasycosplay.net/w...hiroth_ff7.jpg

Skirts work for guys! Maybe no minis, but the long and pencil ones would. Could easily be called the lower half of a tunic! Didn't african tribesmen and hawaian guys have grass skirts? There's lots of options.

Guys are totally be left out here!

And this might be great for CoH Developers because all the meshes are already made! Maybe a little tweeking but otherwise would be easy compared to making something from scratch!

I just hope if they chop the male legs to make skirts work they do it based on having a skirt not based on under garment.

I fully support costume proliferation.

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim It's a political thing. Allowing males to wear female costume options would drastically change the ESRB rating of this game.

Since the game is already marked "Suggestive Themes" no change in rating would occur.

Drag only get you to T.

I want this.



Or heck, I just want more sci-fi costume options so I can make this one.



Edit: Swapped out Hello Kitty Vader picture with a non-photoshopped version.

Sailor Bubba (I've met him at cons, that's his official name) is actually sorta awesome. Not quite as disturbing as Man Faye.

Anyway, I guess I'd rather see more costumes available for more types -- it's frustrating trying to find something that would be PERFECT for a costume, only to realize it's tied to the other gender for some reason.

"Sexism" was indeed probably a bit strong & overly PC comment re: costumes, but it wasn't meant to be an accusation of a vast ongoing conspiracy, just an observation.

Some points I enjoyed hearing:

1) Lots of players REALLY want hair with their hats. Right now, the only way to get that is choose the "swabby" hat, but unless your hair & hat aren't vastly different colours, the hair sort of fades into the hat.

2) You can indeed give your male toon "fishnets" by properly manipulating "mesh" Mesh is lots of fun. I think the player who worried about the game being "overrun" by transvestites should costuming go totally unisex need not be concerned. A guy in fishnets doesn't strike much fear in the hearts of evildoers. Or maybe he would, depending, lol.

3) Good point that a "huge" skeleton might present a problem so far as "witch lace", etc. Yeah, there are some things that just won't work, like a "super foxy" hairstyle with a helmet.

4) Guys can't have "cloud bracers"? I never knew, not having tried it. This is senseless; think of the chop-socky costume possibilities.

5) One player showed us a good handful of fairly darn famous male comics characters with extremely long hair. This is what I mean by ONE male "long hair" (which is actually medium long) just not being enough. I was re-reading some graphic novels earlier today and was struck by the sheer intensity of the nearly waist-length hair of everyone's favourite Marvel Mutant Ninja, "The Gorgon". The guy looks BAD-A$$.

6) I personally would never put a male toon in a pencil skirt, but what about loincloths? Again, a unisex choice. Conan, Elektra, Shanna, Hercules, etc. I also agree that females have a very limited choice in skirts, and tops as well, when you come to creating a "Civlian ID Alt." Shirts for femmes also seem to be vastly limited.

I could go on, but basically was struck by the number of responses to this issue, most of which were highly thoughtful, and some which gave me cause to rethink my complaints. As always, I will end my ramblings by saying I feel grateful just to have CoH as a stress reliever and alternate-reality immersion system. Just think if our costume choices were as limited as those of the very first "Smackdown!" console game! (Shudders...)

Cheers...

Conversely, I think some of the costume pieces male characters have should be available to female toons. For example, why can't the women have the skull mask from the Magic booster, hmm?

Newer team is better at it as usual, but when people ask about shoulder animals and rabbit ears and get as a response 'we didn't expect them to be demanded,' that's at the least a sexist answer even if the real reason was limited resources.

Count me in as another who wonders just what the hangup is where men and long hair are concerned. Since I like long-haired men, there's only a tiny handful of men's hairstyles I can use- the rest don't work with my characters. I've been seeing requests for long haired male options since I joined, why don't we have more of them?
I would like more skirts for the guys too- we need loincloths for both genders. Even if we can't have the dynamic sybil-style ones, why can't we have the egyptian or Conan-styled ones for both genders?
And I'll also add my name to those who want to see the baron coat made available to women. While we're at it, a unisex version of the magic bolero jacket would also rock.

QUOTE=TheLadyK;3386214]I happily blame soccer moms for everything.

I would like to see different shorts options for both genders and the (IMHO) poor quality of available male hairstyles means i don't play many male characters. I would love to see more options cross gender (the available skirts for women are pretty lame, so I don't have much of an opinion there, but headbands and hair? Do it.)
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No no men can't have shorts. That brings up the whole shaved/unshaved legs issue. Then if you give men unshaved legs some women will want it to and there goes the ESRB again (in the US anyway) lol. We went through all this with nipples.

Seriously though there are a LOT of immature players and if you give them ammunition they will use it and you be admitting 'Nancy Boy' joining your SG because, after all, you shouldn't judge. As a GM do YOU want to put your job on the line for saying what is cross dressing and that it is inappropriate? Well for men anyway, no one dares tell women what to wear - no one would dare accuse a female charater in a flannel shirt and work boots of not dressing appropriately (unless she also had an inappropriate name then they'd make you change the name).

We live hip deep in hypocrisy. The easiest way to avoid problems is not to take risks. I think some long hair isn't TOO much, but I'm sure they had a lot of meetings before they even introduced kilts. Personally I don't think varieties of shorts would be all that popular for guys. "Bicycle Delivery Guy" dies on the vine.