Most would become supervillains if given superpowers, study says.


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From the West Wing, but I changed it for Superpowers

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Leo McGarry: Oh, well then you're just as stupid as these guys who think that capital punishment is going to be a deterrent for drug kingpins. As if drug kingpins didn't live their day-to-day lives under the possibility of execution. And their executions are a lot less dainty than ours, and tend to take place without the bother and expense of due process. So, my friend, if you want to start using Super-human strength as the arm of the Lord, you can do that. You're the only superpower left. You can conquer the world, like Charlemagne. But you'd better be prepared to kill everyone. And you had better start with me because I will raise up an army against you and *I* will beat you.
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I'd not seen that before - it's rather epcially Praetorian
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Actually, I avoid getting drunk because I think I would be very likely to do something stupid if I got wasted.
I used to believe something bad might happen when I got wasted when I was younger. I had alot of demons to keep at bay but the reality was I'm not a violent drunk. I'm quite the opposite as I tend to just be more outgoing and laugh at everything. I just don't do it often so there's a really thin line between me buzzed and wanting to go pass out as drinking makes me sleepy. I ultimately don't need that to have a good time as I am more than willing make an a*s of myself without chemicals reducing my inhibitions. (such as dancing and singing karokee hehe.)


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That's a silly and negative assumption, and is really rather dumb - why would being invisible mean you'd become a bad person?
Of all powers I dont really see it being the corruptor of powers. I could see mind control turn people into jerks but invisiblity? Not so much. You still need get thru doors and walk everywhere.(which you'd have be careful on the street not get ran over since cars can't see you.) Especially in this day and age. I suppose back when that book was taking place there wasn't doors and locks were much easier to breach. There far less security to get past. There was less records and accountability.

Let's assume first you can wear clothes while invisible and make objects you're holding invisible.(Like Sue Richards of fantastic Four power set.) Otherwise the invisible man package where you have run around naked make use of your powers blows. I'd have move to a much warmer climate to make use of it than the Midwest.

Sure you could steal stuff then but there's probably more effective ways of making money off it than that. (like rigging sports events or the Lotto hehe.) So you have your mountain of cash. Where's the immediate need to go be evil? You can buy everything you want legally in the eyes of the world. With that sort of bank roll you can attract more than enough interest from the opposite sex without needing to force anything. You've won at life and still have the perks of super powers.

Am I missing something that's really so awesome about being evil in this scenario? Outside of just making lots of other people unhappy because you've gone around graping and pillaging or just skipped all that grief for the world and just fake success then take it all outright. Reminds me of ....This

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Based on normal human behavior.
Really depends on your norm. The neighborhood I live in. I wouldn't trust the majority of these people with the ability to hover 10 feet in the air,let alone some uber power. While I get you want to see the best in everything , life doesn't always go that way. It's a mixed bag.



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Based on the way people usually behave.
What color is the sky in your world?

Does it have candy cane tree and marsh mallow clouds where people are always nice, right and just to each other when the history of our world clearly shows that this has never been the case.


 

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Universal morality comes before any of them.
There's no such thing.

Your worldview is shaped by how you're brought up.

Even if mankind has some innate "nature" they start with, they get altered by their lifetime experiences, and therefore by the time they are in a position to do anything about it their morality and worldview is distinct and different from every other person on the planet.



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What color is the sky in your world?

Does it have candy cane tree and marsh mallow clouds where people are always nice, right and just to each other when the history of our world clearly shows that this has never been the case.
No, she's just naive, arrogant and juvenile enough to believe that everyone acts and feels like she *fantasizes* she would.

That or she's one of the greatest trolls ever seen on the internet. Take your pick.


 

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No, she's just naive, arrogant and juvenile enough to believe that everyone acts and feels like she *fantasizes* she would.

That or she's one of the greatest trolls ever seen on the internet. Take your pick.
I understand that much as she reminds me of myself when I was about 17. I thought I knew best on everything. I thought I was holier than thou. I'm probably a better person now than I was then but I don't feel like it. Mostly because I don't believe my crap doesn't stink like before. I'm still a self righteous jerk, I just revel in it now when it suits me.

I'm sure life will likely assert itself one day and give her a crash course. I just hope it's not too brutal on her when it does. Sometimes we have to learn the hard way. I know it's seems be only way I ever do anything.



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Do you seriously think you could solve anything by killing criminals?

Crime is not in the neighborhood of being the highest danger to humanity.
Depends on one's definition of the word "criminal."

To me the worst criminals are those in power who use it to gratify themselves or enrich themselves while instituting policies that are destructive to the planet and its inhabitants in the long run. I'm not just talking about government leaders, but also those in control of mega-corporations. Not all of them are criminals, but the ones who are can be incredibly destructive to the lives of hundreds of millions.

Of course, the local criminals (murders, serial rapists, child molesters, slave-owners, etc.) also need to be dealt with. And I think that the resources currently being used to house and feed them can be put to better use.

Maybe I really wouldn't be so extreme as to summarily execute thousands of people. But I would deal with them in some way. Otherwise even the most heroic saving of lives and property would amount to nothing more than spritzing a smoking curtain with a plant-mister while the house around you is on fire.

Maybe I'd just pick out a decent-sized island in some remote area and do an "Escape from New York" scenario. Put all the human predators there, give them periodic food shipments, and let them prey on each other for the rest of their lives.


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Based on normal human behavior.
Nope.


 

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Of all powers I dont really see it being the corruptor of powers. I could see mind control turn people into jerks but invisiblity? Not so much. You still need get thru doors and walk everywhere.(which you'd have be careful on the street not get ran over since cars can't see you.) Especially in this day and age. I suppose back when that book was taking place there wasn't doors and locks were much easier to breach. There far less security to get past. There was less records and accountability.

Let's assume first you can wear clothes while invisible and make objects you're holding invisible.(Like Sue Richards of fantastic Four power set.) Otherwise the invisible man package where you have run around naked make use of your powers blows. I'd have move to a much warmer climate to make use of it than the Midwest.

Sure you could steal stuff then but there's probably more effective ways of making money off it than that. (like rigging sports events or the Lotto hehe.) So you have your mountain of cash. Where's the immediate need to go be evil? You can buy everything you want legally in the eyes of the world. With that sort of bank roll you can attract more than enough interest from the opposite sex without needing to force anything. You've won at life and still have the perks of super powers.

Am I missing something that's really so awesome about being evil in this scenario? Outside of just making lots of other people unhappy because you've gone around graping and pillaging or just skipped all that grief for the world and just fake success then take it all outright.

Unfortunately our prisons are filled to overflowing with people that would love to use invisibility to commit crime. The only limits to what crimes they could attempt to commit would be their imaginations or lack thereof.


 

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Maybe I really wouldn't be so extreme as to summarily execute thousands of people.
I see you're starting to grasp the basics of being a superhero


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There's no such thing.
Yes there is - the default setting for humans is to be nice to each other.


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Yes there is - the default setting for humans is to be nice to each other.
Really? Ever watched a group of toddlers? Do you even interact with people outside of trolling these forums?


 

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Unfortunately our prisons are filled to overflowing with people that would love to use invisibility to commit crime. The only limits to what crimes they could attempt to commit would be their imaginations or lack thereof.
Well that would be just about any power as another forum I frequent that would be several people's responses to most types of powers. Thankfully most people that shortsighted probably would get themselves killed not taking other things into consideration while commiting said crime.



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Yes there is - the default setting for humans is to be nice to each other.
I don't think the default setting is to be nice as much as it is to withstand/tolerate/group together.

Can that include being nice? Sure. But I don't think early nomadic man was particular nice to rival groups, nor even that kind within their own group (I don't really see nomadic man, for example, giving large portions of their food supply to the weak or the infirmed. Some, sure, but not most).

Now, you can say, with civilization came the more "innate" niceness. But then again, then it would be something programmed into us by society, not purely our nature, and something that could be programmed out, after a thousand or so years of various Beast Wars and Battle Bots.


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After browsing through this thread as it has evolved over the past few days, I must say that I want whatever G_G is smoking. That must be some seriously strong **** right there.


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After browsing through this thread as it has evolved over the past few days, I must say that I want whatever G_G is smoking. That must be some seriously strong **** right there.
Drugs are bad - I've never touched them, ever.


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Really? Ever watched a group of toddlers?
Yes, lots of times - they're still just little and learning.


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Yes, lots of times - they're still just little and learning.
But if being nice is the default setting for humans, why would toddlers have to learn that?

You'd think that a toddler's mind, unencumbered with societal guidelines would act "naturally," which would be whatever default setting we start at.


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But if being nice is the default setting for humans, why would toddlers have to learn that?

You'd think that a toddler's mind, unencumbered with societal guidelines would act "naturally," which would be whatever default setting we start at.
The same way they have to learn to walk, which is the default travel method of humans - or learn to talk, which is the default communication method of humans.


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The same way they have to learn to walk, which is the default travel method of humans - or learn to talk, which is the default communication method of humans.
They don't have to be taught how to be selfish. They have to be taught how to share thier toys, not grab the toys out of other kid's hands and to not smack someone who takes thier toys away.
Selfish is what they do if no adults show them how to behave.