Most would become supervillains if given superpowers, study says.


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How is taxing something right in the first place. it's a ******** way to try to control a population and that is not something government should be doing.
Quit attacking your new strawman and pay attention. I gave you the chance to have a fun theoretical discussion on the cause and effect of legalizing drug use and you first try to tell me what I said without even reading my post and second try to use the taxation of a product to continue the debate on your terms after I invalidated your first statement.

No Sir!

Taxation is a method of funding government. The only instance I can think of where taxation is a method of controlling a population is that when you don't pay it as a consequence you are fined or imprisoned. There is a similar consequence for breaking any other law. Are you suggesting that a government should also not be enforcing other laws like the ones that fine or imprison people for stealing your stuff or assaulting you? Those are another way to control a population and by your statement "not something govenment should be doing." I bet though that if someone were to break in to your home, knock you out, and steal all your stuff the very first thing you would do once you woke up is call 911 or the police.

Don't insult my or your own intelligence with these fallacious arguements. Your better than that.


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hrm, i wonder if i could get bureaucracy as a super power.
"Halt! you can't steal that TV, without filing the proper paperwork!"
You could but then you'd realize I could have the power to turn into any fictional character gaining all their abilities. I'd turn into Hermes Conrad and use my grade 34 bureaucrat super powers to fill out that paper work so fast that you'd think I forgot to sign and date the last page... until you realized that I did.

Thanks for the TV man!


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You could but then you'd realize I could have the power to turn into any fictional character gaining all their abilities. I'd turn into Hermes Conrad and use my grade 34 bureaucrat super powers to fill out that paper work so fast that you'd think I forgot to sign and date the last page... until you realized that I did.

Thanks for the TV man!
obviously bureaucracy man must team up with litigator lad and 'the LoopHole' to form a committee to properly formulate the necessary counter to your counter. ill just get the paperwork together...

HEY! where are you going! That wasn't notarized!!!!


 

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only if you think taxing folks is wrong.

hrm, i wonder if i could get bureaucracy as a super power.
"Halt! you can't steal that TV, without filing the proper paperwork!"
A teller stopped a bank robbery by making the robber fill out loan papers; delaying him until the police arrived.


So.... maybe "Bureaucracy Man" isn't TOO farfetched.


 

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You could maybe not do the whole destroying cities thing and do something nice instead?
I think you miss my real point. I'd do that horrible (yet interesting) thing because I wouldn't believe I have superpowers.

If you wake up one day, and find you can do all the things Superman can do, what's the more likely reason? That you DO have superpowers, that you're dreaming you have superpowers, or that you've gone insane and only think you're flying?

I think a lot of people would have a hard time simply accepting the change. I know I would. Some may think they're dreaming, and do all sorts of crazy things. Others may deny their powers, either doing things by accident only, or totally blocking off access to their new abilities. Some may think they've been chosen by god. Some may even think they ARE god.

Some form of insanity, fleeting or not, would be a common way of coping with leaving your mortal limitations behind.


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I think you miss my real point. I'd do that horrible (yet interesting) thing because I wouldn't believe I have superpowers.
That's a poorly conceived out train of thought. I mean do you jump off buildings every time you get drunk to make sure you haven't gained super powers? No then why act like you're drunk and it doesn't count against me when you do.

I think the saner and more intelligent thing to do is go somewhere vacant and figure out what your limits are. I wouldn't think oh this can't be happening .....be more of well I hope this doesn't shut off at some really incovenient timing. That's where training and figuring out your stuff comes. Going on an ill prepared rampage just seems like a massive waste of potential. Especially if you just get yourself killed because you are a noob.

I'm all for violence in the right conditions(particularly if I found out there was someone else with powers. I'd want to fight them for sport somewhere far from civilization. I like a good challenge to test myself.) but I pick my targets. I fight on my terms. I'm a bit of a Noble Demon at times. I'm not going kick around people who are helpless. I can already do that without super powers. That's being petty and a bully.

I'm by no means saying I'm not willing to exploit my powers to an extent.(heck even superman uses his powers to write stories about his own adventures. Spiderman takes pictures of himself.) I happen like the world way it is, and find I'd have more playing the game in God Mode than smashing the system I'm playing it on and staring at it later because I broke all my toys.



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"I think the saner and more intelligent thing to do is go somewhere vacant and figure out what your limits are."


The perfect example of this is the idea of being able to fly. Now in movies and comics, most just take off into the sky without a care, but in reality how would you know if that power simply wouldn't just turn off while your a couple of hundred or even thousand feet in the air. I think most would go the Greatest American Hero route and keep the flying low until they were sure it was safe.


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Man, I've gotten so much rhetoric from reading this thread, I'll be stocked for months!

Drat... I don't think my fridge is big enough...

Oh well, some of it was already bad.


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"I think the saner and more intelligent thing to do is go somewhere vacant and figure out what your limits are."


The perfect example of this is the idea of being able to fly. Now in movies and comics, most just take off into the sky without a care, but in reality how would you know if that power simply wouldn't just turn off while your a couple of hundred or even thousand feet in the air. I think most would go the Greatest American Hero route and keep the flying low until they were sure it was safe.
i see a great future for the costume designer able to fit a variety of modern life saving devices into the suit. such as an a.e.d., a parachute, airbags, gps, oxygen, and the like.

it's great to be able to fly. less so when the temp is around -15, the pressure hovers around 'what's my name again?', and your eyes still only see a few thousand feet (barring many other issues) with any sort of chance to see what you might be looking at, or dodging... missile, jet, missile, jet...missile...dammit.


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Not wanting to wade through 12 pages of replys.

The ancient Greeks knew this years ago.

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Not wanting to wade through 12 pages of replys.

The ancient Greeks knew this years ago.

Ring of Gyges
So, with great power comes great accountability?


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That's a poorly conceived out train of thought. I mean do you jump off buildings every time you get drunk to make sure you haven't gained super powers? No then why act like you're drunk and it doesn't count against me when you do.
Actually, I avoid getting drunk because I think I would be very likely to do something stupid if I got wasted.


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Not wanting to wade through 12 pages of replys.

The ancient Greeks knew this years ago.

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That's a silly and negative assumption, and is really rather dumb - why would being invisible mean you'd become a bad person?


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That's a silly and negative assumption, and is really rather dumb - why would being invisible mean you'd become a bad person?
Perhaps, in the interest of discourse, you could expand on why you think this.

You see, I find it really overly optimistic and rather dumb to assume otherwise - why would a person free of consequences maintain an upstanding moral character?


 

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Because it's the right and natural thing to do - if I could suddenly turn myself invisible, I wouldn't become a criminal.


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Watches Ketch as his head explodes after reading G_G's response.

<Snicker>

I knew that was coming.


 

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This just in! Some people are optimists! Others are pessimists!


In related news, experts say reality may lie somewhere in between.

Film at 11.


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Because it's the right and natural thing to do.
Based on what?


 

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Based on normal human behavior.
Normal based on what?


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Strangely had this conversation with my friends.

All of us agreed we could NOT be trusted with powers of Superman levels, the potential to abuse them would just be too high and none of us felt we had the strength of character to avoid doing just that. It's the equivilent of the One Ring. Frodo offers it to a number of people who all turn it down because they know they would fall to its power.

If I genuiely had the mechanical genuis of a mad scientist level, well that is different. I'm very much a stickler for what a super-villain should be.

My namesake has a saying, "what seperates a super-villain from a super-thug is that super-villains have class and manners...and my dear...I have those in spades."

I don't think I could ever descend into true Monster levels of moral depravity but telling people to stuff it because I want to make clones of myself to help around the lab or holding the world to ransom with my weather-o-matic device...well thats just a given really.


 

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My namesake has a saying, "what seperates a super-villain from a super-thug is that super-villains have class and manners...and my dear...I have those in spades."
There's no difference - evil is evil


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