I hear things too but I'm not on the "inside" (by design most probably). Maybe you should check with Sidhe or Turbo.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom (or freem?) fighter; just as one man's exploit is another man's feature.
If they have, they didn't bother to broach the subject here.
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For the past couple of months Turbo, Sidhe and I having been talking to the devs about forming a committee for bases. Now this is not just a committee for voicing the needs of base builders (although i feel its the most important part), but also to create events and organize contests that are specific to bases. Right now we are still in the organization and paperwork stage, but since it was being rumored we felt that you guys deserved to know what we are doing. Everyone including the devs are excited about this and we will post more info as it comes.
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Originally Posted by Dead_West
For the past couple of months Turbo, Sidhe and I having been talking to the devs about forming a committee for bases. Now this is not just a committee for voicing the needs of base builders (although i feel its the most important part), but also to create events and organize contests that are specific to bases. Right now we are still in the organization and paperwork stage, but since it was being rumored we felt that you guys deserved to know what we are doing. Everyone including the devs are excited about this and we will post more info as it comes.
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Very, VERY interested in this, should it come to the light of day.
Of course, we'll offer any services we can... meeting in the DW base with free milk and cookies???... lol
Let me know if/when I can assist...
Not holding my breath. I'll believe it when I see results. However, I wish your committee the best of luck. If there's one thing that CoH has above other MMOs in the genre, its's the Base system. It's about time the devs addressed its shortcomings.
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Not holding my breath. I'll believe it when I see results. However, I wish your committee the best of luck. If there's one thing that CoH has above other MMOs in the genre, its's the Base system. It's about time the devs addressed its shortcomings.
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Still, mentioning devs... excited... bases in the same breath has to be a positive sign. Right?
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AV awesome.
Stamp of approval.
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Originally Posted by Dead_West
Everyone including the devs are excited about this and we will post more info as it comes.
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At this point, ANYTHING that gets the Devs excited about bases needs to be lauded, nurtured and encouraged. After all ... I made a prediction a while back that if the Devs continued to say nothing about Bases by the time Issue 20 rolls around ... they never would. Needless to say, I'd be *very* happy to be proven wrong on this point.
Right now, the BIGGEST and most obvious and simplest thing the Devs could possibly do for us (and their database server!) is to give us "dirt simple" 6-sided objects (8 vertices, 6 sides) which use already existing textures (such as Small Bookcase, Tall Shelf, et al.) that come in the following sizes ...
2x2x2
4x2x2
2x4x2
2x2x4
2x4x4
4x4x2
4x2x4
4x4x4
... for use as flooring in 3D base design. With a simple 4x4x4 "block" to use as flooring, I could reduce the number of objects in my base by about 60% ... since I wouldn't need to use arrays of Small Bookcases to do the job (64 vs 256 "floor" objects per 32x32 base block to be floored). With something so dirt simple, bases would LOAD FASTER as well as RENDER FASTER improving performance server side, client side and immersion side.
How "hard" is it to create a block cube that only has an exterior skin on it?
It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...
Me too, I would like to be on this committee myself.
I'm one of the "older school base builders".
My biggest qualification would probably be me being the sole founder of the games only base building global channel, BaseBuildersInc., we have alot of mods and alot of members that also help build the community.
My Lego Models http://www.flickr.com/photos/30369639@N07/ lemur lad: God you can't be that stupid... I'm on at the same time as you for once, and not 20 minutes into it you give me something worth petitioning?Lady-Dee: Hey my fat keeps me warm in the winter and shady in the summer.
Sisterhood will help in any way we can. Very interested!!
I'm curious to see where this leads. I'll reserve further comment until I see the direction this takes the relationship between the base building community and the dev team.
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You.... are already putting together the "paperwork" and discussing the objectives? That sounds almost... formal.|
Originally Posted by Dead_West
For the past couple of months Turbo, Sidhe and I having been talking to the devs about forming a committee for bases. Now this is not just a committee for voicing the needs of base builders (although i feel its the most important part), but also to create events and organize contests that are specific to bases. Right now we are still in the organization and paperwork stage, but since it was being rumored we felt that you guys deserved to know what we are doing. Everyone including the devs are excited about this and we will post more info as it comes.
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I'm curious...
how is this committee to be formed?I know that may all seem a little on the snarky side, but having been on a few committees in the past, these are the questions that come to my mind (along with a slew of others that might be more pertinent later).
what qualifications will be required to join?
who determines who will be members?
will the community have any say in the matter?
will it be open to whoever is interested?
or will it just be a select few people who know people?
where can we find information on this?
will you be posting here in the forums, where there is a record of information?
will you be relying on the in-game global?
will there be an "offsite" website?
or a little of everything?
It's been my experience that committees inevitably translate into politics one way or another. I'm just wondering how you see this panning out in the long run in terms of keeping the community involved.
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I want to help.
I..want..to...
Ignoring anyone is a mistake. You might miss something viral to your cause.
i appreciate everyones comments and concerns. As far as "paperwork" goes its exactly what you mentioned Imp. Turbo is working on the charter. You guys actually kinda caught us with our pants down sort of speak (no doubt a plot of Pantsie). We were waiting on a response from the devs before ironing out the details and now that Going Rogue is live and settled we can start working it out. But i promise that any news that i get i will relay here.
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Wait, you are waiting on the devs?
nevermind then.
I was always told things by the devs like, "send me a pm" or... "start a thread on the forums"
I soon came to realize that's something they tell you to pacify you into file 13.
Or at least... that seems to have been the case so far.
Edit: I sort of apologize if I am coming off a bit rude. I'm weary of the dev/base runaround.
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Originally Posted by Dead_West
i appreciate everyones comments and concerns. As far as "paperwork" goes its exactly what you mentioned Imp. Turbo is working on the charter. You guys actually kinda caught us with our pants down sort of speak (no doubt a plot of Pantsie). We were waiting on a response from the devs before ironing out the details and now that Going Rogue is live and settled we can start working it out. But i promise that any news that i get i will relay here.
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Ahh, good to know. I mean, I hope this takes off and I am interested to see how they will function.
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Originally Posted by Dead_West
i appreciate everyones comments and concerns. As far as "paperwork" goes its exactly what you mentioned Imp. Turbo is working on the charter. You guys actually kinda caught us with our pants down sort of speak (no doubt a plot of Pantsie). We were waiting on a response from the devs before ironing out the details and now that Going Rogue is live and settled we can start working it out. But i promise that any news that i get i will relay here.
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However, it will do zero good. I hope you prove me wrong though. I've been with the game since beta, and a base designer since they were launched. I've been on these boards, mostly in the base forum, since.
And in all that time, I could count the number of responses from the devs on two hands, and still have fingers left. The most I've seen is a new red name stating she would "like" to get attention for hte base builders, but nothing came of it.
I would suggest I be a part of the commitee, but I'm simply too peeved at the devs to maintain a quite profile.
On the other hand, I've been speaking with one recently on other matters and she seemed very nice. I even briefly mentioned bases getting attention, and the response was "nothing planned in the near future."
Frankly, I'm considering leaving the game soon because of the lack of attention to bases. It is frustrating when they don't even read the Base Forums any more.
Given that Paragon Studios just underwent a round of layoffs, I don't foresee ANY kind of significant base system improvements coming, possibly ever.
I have the distinct sensation that NCSoft is shifting CoH into "end of life" mode, pulling resources to put into other projects and cutting expenses. I'm betting Going Rogue was used as a metric by NCSoft to judge whether or not to keep the game in active development or put it out to pasture, and given that the sales numbers for Going Rogue are by accounts not all that great...
I hope I'm wrong. I really do. But the situation does not look good.
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I can see it from that standpoint, but they sustained a long time with a smaller pop than this.
All we are going for is getting some dialog going and a little of that ole lime light shined on you guys. I get that many feel its a waste of time but if it is then its our time that was wasted, not yours. And when the committee is formed and it seems like something you want to help with then great.
From what I understand... cause I dont watch em myself... but miracles happen in sports all the time. Underdog team scores the winning goal in the last seconds and ends a war simultaneously. Maybe its time for a video game miracle.
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Way to go guys.
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That would require hope. Isn't that the last thing you do before giving up?
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From what I understand... cause I dont watch em myself... but miracles happen in sports all the time. Underdog team scores the winning goal in the last seconds and ends a war simultaneously. Maybe its time for a video game miracle.
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Is it just me hearing things, or is there going to be a player committee forming for bases?
I heard through the server that something was in the works with Sidhe and Turbo. Can anyone confirm this? I thought I saw it somewhere online hopefully its not a disappointment.