Base Committee Forming???

Thank you very much, Ocho, for weighing in. It really is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by theOcho Heya folks, ... We think that the base building community would be well served by an organized committee that focused on the communities needs,...

Could not agree more.

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... and are happy to do what we can to aid in such an endeavor.

I'm sure the assistance is very much appreciated.
But this does bring a tiny question to my mind...
Is this really a player created committee? or an NCSoft created player committee?
It's a slight distinction that I'll have to mull over for a bit.

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I also think that it is best for a small group of like minded individuals to initially do much of the work in forming such a group, ...

I can understand this, and agree somewhat...

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without seeking extensive input from the community. The reason for this is committees are not effective in getting things done initially and the early organizational efforts do not require extensive input but merely setting up the framework for later interactions.

This is where it gets sticky for me... extensive input may not be necessary, but I'm of the opinion that communication is.

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Having said that, obtaining validation from the community that any committee purports to represent is crucial or the whole effort is in vain. Much of the discussion I've had with Turbo has regarded making sure that the community will have access to the committee and be able to participate if they are interested.

This was the most important thing in the entire post.

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That being said I believe that the intention is there and the structure is coming along well. Looking forward to working with you folks,

I am glad to hear that you have faith in the intentions, and I also look forward to seeing the results of this endeavor.


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This will likely be my last post in this thread as I think I've made my point and feelings clear.

Kat, from past experience, it is exactly as theOcho has said: They will offer tools to make the player group's job easier, but allow the groups to maintain their own structure and will not dictate how the groups will act.

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I agree with the twisted rabbit thingee that runs the "Twisted Burrow" (infinity SG).

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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer I have three wishes. 1. I wish for you to stay. 2. I wish to see the return of the City Scoop. 3. I wish to see an explosion of base editors in this fine game.

Some see a flow in the right direction and hope to see it pick up strength and speed.

There is no reason to stop a train or jump off if the destination is common or close to common. Many of us want the same things, point in the same direction, and sometimes are a few degrees off.

S.I.N. - Strength in Numbers

I don't care who is on the committee, what their agenda is, who got voted off the island as long as they get some progress on anything base related.

My support is behind the Committee, I don't post much but I do read just about everything on the base forums and I would love to see where this can go. If there will ever be a public meeting somewhere in game I would be there to lend my support and vote for committee members if needed.

Would some one be forming a global channel in game for the committee & supporters where we could speak in game about our concerns.

Just wanted to do a quick response for Snow.


I myself noticed that my past posts were not exactly clear or could to some seem that I am saying the exact opposite of what I meant.

I am working on that. I am in no way a professional speaker.

I think the main reason Turbo wanted me to rep this group is one, because I have more time on forums than I do in game, and two, I care about the community of this game and I try to post and respond with the frequency most wish that devs would.


I will try to make my posts as clear as possible from this point on, especially now that I know the "boundaries" of my position. I really regret ever using the word "prioritize". Really should have been sort.

After spending a good deal of time on vent with Dead_West I have been convinced that this is THE step in the right direction that we have ALL been waiting for.

If anyone has any doubts I would highly recommend getting on vent with DW to clear things up.

I am behind this 1000%

Our time is NOW.

Lets NOT blow our chance!

If needed, add me to the list as one who wants to help the committee or fellow base builders in getting our information, desires and requests out to the devs and powers-that-be.

I've enjoyed building and/or designing over 30 bases (most for myself, some for other players) and with the moderate experiences I've had with doing that, I would definitely like to help.

I'm sure we all wish to get the word to the devs/powers-that-be what we see as necessary actions to perpetuate the game's current quality up-curve and the attention that needs to be brought to the bases and the incredible base building community at large.

I know it doesn't seem like there is a lot of interest from the devs in getting bases fixed/updated/revised, but, as we all know, if we work together, we can achieve more than what we have seperately.

Count me in to help where you need me.

It's about time for ANYTHING to happen with bases.

I've encouraged PERC to do SOMETHING with bases. Like a base contest or whatever. I know I have auctioned myself out to help people with bases in the Victory auctions. I know there is the base builders channel, but I've always been one of those "hands on" people who best give advice if I see the issue or best teach someone within an actual base.

I'd love for base raids to come backin some appropriate form. Too often the attitude is that bases and SGs do not matter with global channels and so forth, but for me bases offer some of the special mystique to the game.

So as for player-led base groups, I will support them if they can prove that they can do anything to help base builders. Even just ONE thing. Even is it's just a cool thing that players would want and that only bases could offer.

But in my opinion, the first thing that should be considered is not the actual base building programming but the SG concept as a whole. The purpose of building a base is for people to see it. But when your SG is limited to 150 characters and people are flocking to using global channels because of this, it makes me wonder if base building is worth the time. Used to people would look for "established" SGs for all of the benefits and builders could really showcase their ability but now it seems that people only even go into the base to get to those hard-to-get-to zones that are not served by Oro or trains or whatever.

What I am saying is that as long as SGs continue to become less and less relevant so does base editing in the eyes of everyone. Bases need to become relevant again and for that to happen so do SGs as a whole.

Also in my opinion we should be careful about making a change for the worst. One change I regret happening is for base items to be more affordable. I think this is a thing that contributed to descreasing importance SGs because now anyone can make a base for themselves and get all they need pretty quickly. I know some think that it made it easier to start off a SG but I disagree as I started my SG years after most SGs on my server were started and we reached top 10 in less than year for prestige. If there is a will there is a way.

I guess since it seems the Committee has been formed I would like to know what exactlly they are gonna try and get accomplished. This way we know exactlly whats on the aggenda so to speak.

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I am not getting overly excited because I'm sure the devs will let us down again. But I must say that I think the committee is an excellent idea and yes we need to rally the troops. The more members on the committee, the more we can show the devs how many want to see change. It is a new approach to an old problem and I think its better than just sitting around and doing nothing.

When you start talks, throw out the idea of Base decorations in booster packs. I am sure the reason that they have not spent time on us boils down to cost and platform. If they can spend the time to make new emotes and costume pieces for our money, then they can spend the time to add a couple of base decorations into their next booster. Yes they would have to have other things in the booster so that it would sell across the game community and not just target us.

I also hope that the committee isn't just a select few and the rest get left outside with no voice. I wish you luck and would love to join to help out.

If the committee actually gets anything done at all, then I will say that for the most part they deserve their existence at that point.

ANY changes would be good at this point as far as I'm concerned. It would show that the developers realize that the community exists. If we don't like all the changes, we can still appeal directly to the devs or to the committee.

This talk of a "shadowy" making decisions for us is ridiculous. I would be concerned about it if the shadowy agency was making decisions regarding what food I ate, or as in the case in real life... how much of my money is going to be taken from me and spent on military spending. But it's just a base! A base that has for too long been forgotten and left behind, but still just a base. If this committe makes bad choices, we can deal with the consequences. But at least give them a chance to actually get SOMETHING done around here.

I still say that the main focus should be on reviving Super Groups in general, not just bases.