Base Committee Forming???

Ditto.

As far as the wish list is concerned the #1 should be the wxyz axis tool.

If we were going to get any base editing updates, that should be the top on everyone's list.

I would suggest a small start with just that tool alone before adding textures or objects.

That is personally what i would like changed about the editor. No more sconces needed to get an angle, man that would be nice. The programming part of that however is a logistical nightmare. To my knowledge, safes and gray desks are the only objects that can be seen from all angles. Everything else has at least one invisible side. So to bring that system into the editor they would need to re-render alot of those pieces.

Honestly new skins and objects (with wxyz system in mind) would be a logical way to go. But we will have our first meeting soon and i will make sure that is a main topic.

Sorry just got a chance to post.

Ok as far as your post Imp, that is basically what we are working on as of right now. Sorry I havent replied yet, but there were alot of posts and I was trying to address everyone in one post. I work through the weekends.

But anyway, here's what we are working on as far as the committee itself when referring to membership. It will not just be the 3 of us making all decisions, nor will it just be the 3 of us in the committee itself. We havent exactly figured out all the specifics (like i said before the rumors hit fast) but we do know we want it to be a small number of people. We are trying to funnel the best ideas to the devs, we don't want to create the same problem within the committee.

Turbo has been point on all of this, he has started the dialog with the devs, he has written the charter, pretty much the guy with the plan. The reason I and Sidhe were picked wasnt for popularity (because many of you are much more vocal in the base forum than I am) or because we know the right people. But we all care about this game and the people who play it. Thats what makes CoH different than other games, we play for experience not XP and we love a noob (that is open to suggestion of course.) We care that many of you are angry to the point of quitting the game in some instances.

But we are trying to do this professionally and concise. If you have too much emotion involved it can turn into the British Parliament real fast.

We are not trying to leave anyone out, and like I said there will be more people involved directly and indirectly very soon. We are just trying to get the red tape out of the way first. And my first task was to keep you folks informed. Sorry if I am not doing that quickly enough or clear enough, thats why if there are questions continue to post them here and I will try to get to them all.

I know its hard to trust someone when they say their intentions are for the good of the people, but they truly are. Words dont mean alot these days though so just keep an eye out in the coming weeks and I promise it wont be so hard to believe then.

Interesting.

Please remember that your committee was not chosen by the anyone in this section. So to ease any mistrust, you will have to communicate clearly your intentions and plan. This has not been done, and should be rectified as soon as possible. If nothing else, give an intended date of posting the charter, so everyone knows what the plan is.

Good luck.

I'm mostly staying out of this conversation, because while I have my own opinions, I know perfectly well that nobody but me cares what they are.

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Originally Posted by The_Demon_Hunter I'm not part of this little committee, but before anyone else speaks of mistrust, it appears that a leak somewhere made it so everyone heard about this little endeavor of theirs before they were ready to announce it, which is presumably why they haven't presented the plan you're asking for (and one I was pondering myself before taking this into account).

In reference to the bolded bit above: I think the problem some people are running into was that the endeavor was started without any discussion or input from this section of the game population that it claims to represent. There shouldn't have been a leak "before they were ready to announce it," because it shouldn't have been a secret in the first place. They're running into the problem of -> what happens if we don't want to be presented with fait accompli?

The most likely "small" changes would be stuff that does not require major coding changes.

Like turning off the stacking restrictions for Desks, or adding new items.

Heck, making it so room columns count as walls for sticking wall items to them would be nice - then put in a version of the floor tile that sticks to walls.


-k

I am going to be politely blunt.

The comments have gone from support and mild caution to paranoid delusions that we are jihad minded base terrorists.

The reason there wasnt a vote? Part to do with we wanted to make sure we could do this before throwing a vote up. It was a shot in the dark and it hit. But mostly because of this. Everyone will either feel that someone they know or they themselves are best for the job. And everyone cant be the best. And when its not exactly what someone wants when they want it it must be bogus.


The only prioritizing we were going to do is filter the possible from the impossible, so we dont waste the time and attention we are now getting on pipe dreams. There is no hidden agenda or personal grudges going on and to think that way is unfortunately paranoid.

Turbo has done what no one else wanted to do and thats the leg work. He asked me to help and i was more than happy to. So i will continue helping as long as he wants me to. We are satill playing the waiting game so there is no need for people arguing and fighting.

not holding a vote was going to draw negative comments, i understood that. but to think we will sabotage what this community wants is absurd.

Because the majority of us want the same thing.

And West, to put it bluntly, you're dealing basically dealing a quiet version of the PVP community.
Everyone here feels angry, disenchanted, and in many ways, outright hateful of the devs and this game (though ironically continue to play).
You've probably seen one person's comment in this thread about the game dying, you've seen many saying 'they'll never touch bases again', I myself often fall into these melodramatic moments of depression.
But on the flipside, it doesn't seem like such a far fetched truth sometimes that the devs have thrown up their arms and turned their back on bases given some of the facts and only occasionally placate the with once-in-a-great-while post that placates us with a "We'd like to work on bases".

I congratulate you on your shot-in-the-dark hitting, but for many of lost in the dark ages of base development: we didn't hear the din of the hit, no, the darkness seemed so great it even swallowed the muzzle flash.

PS. I'm not trying to be a suck up, I just suck with words.

PSS. So... you guys wanna see a sushi bar? Which is approximately 10% cooler than all those regular bars base builders put down?

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Our intention was not to make anyone mad. This is not the first time someone has tried to carry this torch only for it to be dropped, then picked up again and rinse and repeat.

Turbo has gone further than anyone. If we dont support him then, if we remain on opposing sides fighting for the same cause, then yes nothing will get done.

Do we want to continue to be ignored or will we give this idea a chance?