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I'd rather be able to do a one time purchase than earn it for every character I have, let alone the characters I've made after said events are over.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Please please please please.
It'd be nice for them to be earnable via the upcoming holiday events. Sticking them into yet another booster would suck. |
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Like I said make em cossie IOs like the myriad other cossie IOs we have. That way you can keep em and send them onto any other characters you have.|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I'd rather be able to do a one time purchase than earn it for every character I have, let alone the characters I've made after said events are over.
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My absolute preference is for them to be available as part of i19 however.
Anyone else find it odd that we have now been trained to think anything like this must be for a paid booster extra and not a part of Issue 19?
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After the party pack no not really. Folks just expect it now.|
Originally Posted by Mouse_Man
Anyone else find it odd that we have now been trained to think anything like this must be for a paid booster extra and not a part of Issue 19?
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I'm betting booster pack and will be VERY SHOCKED if it's part of an event.
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I.e reward people for ruining their fun with horrible events (basically all of them) instead of paying for it? No, thank you. I'd rather not put myself through the pain and torture that is public events if I can help it.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Reward people for particpating in events, not for having money in their wallet.
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If you want to reward people for participating in events, reward them with something else, like experience, money, rare drops, buffs or what have you. But NOT costumes.
In fact, I have made it a point that I will pay for any costume piece added to the game, rather than having to bust my *** to unlock them for every single character every single time. If, at some later point, you feel like complaining about every new costume piece is becoming a booster pack, you have only yourself to blame for making people like me fed up enough with "capes at 20" that we will sooner pay through the nose than be stuck unlocking still more costumes. If this nonsense had died way back in I2, I would never have supported costume booster packs. EVER. However, I know that if they are indeed put into the game, they'll be put behind some kind of assinie unlock requirement.
Screw this. I would sooner pay for costume pieces than have to unlock them, and I intend to continue to do so until I get the ability to have all costume items at character creation.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Well they've developed a pattern (intentional or not) of "unofficially leaking" things like this that end up in booster packs for a long time now. It's been happening for a lot longer than just the most recent emote party pack.|
Originally Posted by Mouse_Man
Anyone else find it odd that we have now been trained to think anything like this must be for a paid booster extra and not a part of Issue 19?
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I'm still having a hard time deciding if the Devs are being clever on purpose by slipping these things out as guerrilla-style beta tests of new features or if their code management is simply so poor that these things just ooze out into the live baseline beyond their control. I suppose as long as they continue to look like accidental code leaks they can maintain a certain level of "plausible deniability" about them.
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Well, reinforcing to the devs that ONE animated tail piece was the critical deciding factor in spending $10 on a costume set is NOT going to help curb the mindset that 2 complex dances + 6 loosely-related emotes is worth $8 :P
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Originally Posted by Ironik
Doing me a favor by sticking a much-desired costume part into a Booster pack that many people weren't otherwise going to buy? Shoehorning a non-thematic costume piece in the name of making a few bucks while thumbing their noses at the playerbase? See the OCR/Marketing thread about how the newest team is losing the hearts and minds of the most devoted fans.
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Whipping out a credit then entering the costume editor doesn't quite engender a sense of accomplishment as getting it through gameplay.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I would sooner pay for costume pieces than have to unlock them, and I intend to continue to do so until I get the ability to have all costume items at character creation.
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But with that said, i agree the way they've set unlockable costumes is annoying.
I would rather prefer to get the devs to change the unlockable scenario.
- Make it account wide not per alt.
- Have alternate means of getting seasonal pieces out of season. (Market? Something akin to a tip drop that triggers the seasonal mission to get the costume?)
- Don't tie it to group content. It's your costume, you should be able to get it yourself. Maybe reward after a long story arc that's tagged as "solo-only" mission now that they have that tech.
However they do it, it should give a feeling of accomplishment because that means i'm actually playing the game and not just throwing cash at the costume editor.
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Maybe a Holiday pack? Halloween and Xmas combined? I could see Fireflies for a Halloween type of thing perhaps. zomg /swoon|
Originally Posted by Zortel
Take me out, to the black, I won't buy no party pack.
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Edit - OMFG I'm so happy with the Firefly aura. The eyes by themselves are the type of glowing eyes I've always wanted for an aura. The kind that don't swallow your face or emit a nimbus glow that shows BEHIND your head. It's perfection! I'll put this puppy to heavy use.
I really like the snow aura, just needs a bit of fixing up.
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Agreed. Unless they change the mechanic and allow it to unlock across the board - similar to what the other game does in some cases. I wouldn't mind doing the end game work but doing it for ALL characters I want it on and only during a limited time frame is the suck.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I'd rather be able to do a one time purchase than earn it for every character I have, let alone the characters I've made after said events are over.
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Icicool is shaking in his winter boots over that new aura.
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OK so the eye aura isn't *perfect* but it's nice. In my particular case I want to use it for a guy that has a Duster hat on. The aura cuts horribly into the hats where as the normal Glow eye aura on the lowest setting doesn't cut so obviously into it.
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It's more noticeable when looking a bit over the rim of the hat or using other hats like Fedoras but the new glow cuts substantially into the rims of the hats. It's a nitpick but I really like this new aura and how it flickers and fades, so it's almost perfect and addressing that small detail - if possible - would make it 100 percent perfect.
Mind you I had to bump the color to 3 or 4 to the right from the farthest left in order to get the same intensity as the Glow aura on the furthest left.
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I will be so bummed out if these auras are tied to fighting Snaptooth.
I unlocked halos on 2 characters and said screw it. Being forced to repeat the same mission over and over again on multiple characters just to unlock capes and auras is bad enough but having a 2 week window a year to get a character access to a coustume piece is going to fill most people with a sense of accomplishment. It just makes people feel like they are wasting time.
Oh and those 2 characters I unlocked halos on, I don't even play them anymore. I've moved on to other alts.
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So placating buyer's remorse for crybabies over their impulse purchase outweighs those of us who asked for literal YEARS for just such a costume piece and decided NOT to buy the Mutant Pack because we didn't care for how it looked? Got it: acting like a petulant child *after* spending money trumps being annoyed over watching an obvious grab for a few more bucks.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
They "stuck it in there" for people like me who already bought the pack expecting something completely different so that we got a little more value for our money. Geez, people, can't you keep the bittermuch out of at least a few threads?
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Look, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm acting overly sensitive on this issue, but the facts of the tail debacle are these:
1) Mutant Pack revealed, to resounding cries of "Meh."
2) Noble Savage (David Nakayama) starts Art threads
3) I post photo after photo of bushy tails that I'd like to see added
4) Noble Savage posts that Jay made the bushy tail in a "few days"
5) They add the tail to the Mutant Pack where even a guy with a white cane and service dog can see it clearly doesn't match the other pieces
6) Resulting in numerous posts of, "I wasn't going to buy the Mutant pack, but now that you added the tail..."
Paragon Studios is run by very smart people, and they just had two badly-received Booster Pack releases in a row. They saved one by jamming a much-sought-after costume piece in it, effectively enticing people to pay $10 for a single costume item. So if auras are the next Booster Pack, why *wouldn't* they randomly stick in a Quiver or Scabbard in there to entice people to pay $10?
EDIT: Trumped by ensuing events. General point still stands.
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*edit* And the "snow" aura looks weird, like my screen is getting bad reception. Maybe we can rename it to the "static" aura? |
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What was wrong with the Alpha/Omega pack? I'm using those pieces all over the place.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
Paragon Studios is run by very smart people, and they just had two badly-received Booster Pack releases in a row. |
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I assume he means the Mutant pack (which was only disappointing to the furries).
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
What was wrong with the Alpha/Omega pack? I'm using those pieces all over the place.
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Beyond the fact that the pack itself in question wasn't a bad pack (the only stigma that it garnered was that it either wasn't quite mutant theme in the general sense and that "Beast parts" were expressed to be coming in a pack...but only until much later did we find out it wasn't *this* pack), it's supporting the development team and expressing what you want with your dollar.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Paragon Studios is run by very smart people, and they just had two badly-received Booster Pack releases in a row. They saved one by jamming a much-sought-after costume piece in it, effectively enticing people to pay $10 for a single costume item. So if auras are the next Booster Pack, why *wouldn't* they randomly stick in a Quiver or Scabbard in there to entice people to pay $10?
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That people would spend $10 on one costume part should be enough to express this. I, for one, expressed that I was going to buy the pack but only after I had a use for any of the parts it had. When the wolf tail was announced, that was a part I instantly had a use for and found many uses for the other things too (from custom AE mobs to alternate costumes to theme weapons and stuff).
If you're going to stand by your scruples and not purchase something because of how it's delivered then more power...but don't deny the quality of the product. The pack was good. The costumes, the extra power and the various parts are well worth $10.
If a new pack had a bunch of stuff I thought looked bad paired with one part I wanted, I'd definitely hold off getting it but then you'd have to prove the new hypothetical pack is undesirable.
Hell, the fact that the Party Pack *did NOT* come with some part that you really desired should have shut you up. I probably won't be buying the party pack for a while until I have the extra money. Then I'll put out some cash if only to support the game.
Does anyone else feel gypped that only male avatars get the firefly auras? :| I'm kind of POed about that myself.
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a few things there that are wrong. the resounding meh was at first because the parts they put on test were incomplete, myself and several others were upset that a specific costume part, tails of any kind, were missing, there were no tails. after david posted in that thread people calmed down significantly. Then, when the bushy tail was added, some were thrilled, some fell into full on conspiracy mode,and a good deal more, the people who still cannot tell the difference between anthropomorphic costume parts and furries(strong venn diagram overlap with 4channers) and people who just like more classic human-looking characters were still unimpressed, and would never have been pleased because they had a different definition of the nebulous definition of "mutant". But say the facts straight, the initial meh was because the mutant pack was incomplete on test and a FEW posters were converted by the wolf tail, but to pretend that it was a significant number is to purposely distort available information.|
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So placating buyer's remorse for crybabies over their impulse purchase outweighs those of us who asked for literal YEARS for just such a costume piece and decided NOT to buy the Mutant Pack because we didn't care for how it looked? Got it: acting like a petulant child *after* spending money trumps being annoyed over watching an obvious grab for a few more bucks.
Look, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm acting overly sensitive on this issue, but the facts of the tail debacle are these: 1) Mutant Pack revealed, to resounding cries of "Meh." 2) Noble Savage (David Nakayama) starts Art threads 3) I post photo after photo of bushy tails that I'd like to see added 4) Noble Savage posts that Jay made the bushy tail in a "few days" 5) They add the tail to the Mutant Pack where even a guy with a white cane and service dog can see it clearly doesn't match the other pieces 6) Resulting in numerous posts of, "I wasn't going to buy the Mutant pack, but now that you added the tail..." Paragon Studios is run by very smart people, and they just had two badly-received Booster Pack releases in a row. They saved one by jamming a much-sought-after costume piece in it, effectively enticing people to pay $10 for a single costume item. So if auras are the next Booster Pack, why *wouldn't* they randomly stick in a Quiver or Scabbard in there to entice people to pay $10? EDIT: Trumped by ensuing events. General point still stands. It probably looks better animated. Even Willpower, my favorite secondary and the one that looks the best out of the box, looks better in motion than in stills. |
one more point, matching other pieces is not the prerequisite of costume pieces, in fact the fact that many new sets work poorly with anything other than the rest of the set has been a point of significant contention around here, because the launch creator was a great deal more mix-and-match friendly. so whether it matched or not is largely irrelevant, a portion of the players would prefer more pieces that are multi purpose rather than being locked into a set.
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I suspect that by the i19 release, females will be added, i would really be surprised if they werent. but since this is a accident(like the insect 2 cape, remember that?) i dont think any expectations can really be attached to it.
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Originally Posted by Alanari
Does anyone else feel gypped that only male avatars get the firefly auras? :| I'm kind of POed about that myself.
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It's a bug that anyone has it at this point, that female characters don't have it now shouldn't be taken as an indication that they wont have it come release.
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Originally Posted by Alanari
Does anyone else feel gypped that only male avatars get the firefly auras? :| I'm kind of POed about that myself.
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Even so, still kinda lame. X3 Ah well. Just gotta writhe in envy until i19 I guess.
Making them craftable event cossie IOs, so that they can be stockpiled or bought and sold on the markets is fine to me as well (and this is coming from someone who went looking for a Winters Gift last night. I'm happy to either pay 20 million ingame for it or simply wait for them to roll around again in a couple of months and I can earn them).