Fitness to become inherent in i19

D-oh!

Well it the change will definitely give my wp/db tank some room to breathe! He'll even take taunt!

Making Fitness an inherent was a pretty big gift already... I suppose the devs could still give us more slot, but I find that hard to believe. I would guess that you can make up for things with the Incarnate stuff, and they're going to leave it at that.

And really, having to deal with too few slots is old hat for me. Most of my builds get fairly tight, and I've had a tri-form Kheldian for a long time. There are ways to build around it.

I'll definitely like being able to run toggles pre-stamina, though. That's nice. Still surprised they didn't give us a 1-20 inherent end recovery boost, like they did for accuracy with Beginner's Luck.

Part of me feels its a bit of a mistake. I already have non tank toons that have max defenses. Now every toon will have much better defenses. Those toons that are Defense capped already will be doing more DPS. I already have run on some decent teams that many where defense capped in which no tank was needed. I think it will make tanks and brute needed even less. I think scrappers will win out since they can with certain sets be defensed capped and deal even more DPS. Pretty much a tank that deals more damage.

There used to be a time when the game had a certain model. Meaning a players should be able to handle 3 minions or 1 LT and 1 minion. But as I read in a Q&A one time, when one of the devs where asked what the current model was. The answer they gave as fun, that they look at what is fun for the player. It sounds great but it also becomes less challenging. I get more of a challenge sometimes out of figuring out how to get a build defense capped then doing some of these missions. Or seeing how fast we can do a SF or TF..

Don't hate the game, I think its fun. But it was more challenging when you relied on a tank a bit more and everyone else had a part to deal with. Now the lines of blurred and you have Scrappers, Dominators, and even some Trap set Defenders / Corruptors tanking.

I did a mock build for my Fire/Fire tank last night looking at if Fitness was an inherent (any slots I would use in it I just put on Brawl out of the way) and I was quite happy with what I came up with.

I managed to pick up Tough earlier, Blazing Aura earlier, RotP earlier and fit in Build Up and Hasten. I moved a few slots around but overall I think I am looking forward to this change

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I'd like to see Veteran Rewards become merits that you can cash in for special things like things available at the PlayNC store (respecs, chr slots, AE mission slots, Renames, Global renames, and a variety of veteran powers that are lumped together into a Veteran Power Pool).

Then you could spend the merits on those things instead of getting stuff that thematically doesn't work with your character. For instance, my main doesn't need all six sprints and Ninja Run. He also doesn't need ghost slaying ax, nemesis staff and sands of mu. By allowing veterans merits toward the things mentioned above, a player has more control over the things he uses and doesn't become a power collector as I am now.

(Some additional thoughts on what you could spend veteran merits on could include exchanging veteran merits for reward, vanguard, and hero merits as well as AE tickets. Also, there could be 30 day temp powers that grant at 10% bonus on XP and/or inf as well as buying keys to unlock the winter slopes, and special veteran enhancements.)

One of my first expectations when we started hearing about the incarnate system was that we would be earning incarnate slots. IE. Enhancement slots that would ONLY allow for Incarnate enhancements to be placed in them, and that we would be able to earn up to 10 slots. Maybe a bit too "hopeful" on my part. (Seems I read something into the information that wasn't there.)

Back to the original post. I know I mentioned what I was going to change on my Fire/Fire tank, but have a few other tanks that will get updated as well.

My SD/SS will end up getting Hasten, Conserve Power and Physical Perfection.

My Dark/Dark tank will re-aquire Salt Crystals, gain Quick Sand and Soul Transfer.

My Stone/Stone tank will gain Physical Perfection, and probably Teleport Foe and Maneuvers. Still not 100% sure about this but it's currently where I'm leaning.

My Inv/DM will gain Resist Energies, Resist Elements and Unstoppable.

And I'll stop my list here for now.

Well, it's kind of pointless to debate it, but I really don't see extra slots happening. Making Fitness inherent is already a boon, and the devs already have plans to make our characters more powerful (albeit at level 50). I don't see them wanting to steal any thunder from their Incarnate system by giving us more slots, or upsetting the balance of the 1-50 game any further than making Fitness an inherent already does. I'll be the first to go "sweet, I'll take more slots" if they give them, but I'm not holding my breath, either.

all my new tanks are on hold til this changes comes through.

honestly i love the class, my favorite in the game but the lower levels are a bit of a shlep to be honest.

but hey on the upside i'll be trying out a few new combo's now

Most noticeable change it's made on my Invuln/Kinetics/Energy plans is the fact that I can now get two more of my passive armors in before level 20. Doesn't sound like much, sure, but given the fact that I'll have em for any TF regardless of exemplar level makes doing Positron, Synapse, and the Cavern much, much easier.

So yeah, I think that'll be the biggest noticeable change for me. Lower levels I'm gonna be much more of a Tanker, rather than a weak Scrapper.

I have some slot starved builds right now and adding THREE powers that I MUST take without the ability to slot them at all is not an improvement for many of my characters.

Some can get by perfectly fine with a few added powers unslotted, however the majority can improve with more slots.

Bottom Line.. I want more slots !!!!!!!!!

"If you don't want to slot a power at all, even its default slot, why did you take it? I can't imagine why you'd use a power in such a state or that you couldn't find one aspect worth enhancing."
The question of a power being "worth slotting" is highly subjective. Maybe base stats on stamina is sufficient recovery for my tank to do what I want.
Or put another way tons of folks take combat jumping for the immob protection and combat movement, but I have yet to see someone recommend ED capping the jump or defense components.
Ice patch is another example, it works fine unslotted, why not use the base slot somewhere else?