Now I can't play for two hours, what a great surprise!
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Posted on: 2010-08-16 13:15 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Well, the thing is... that information WAS out there. And in the shortest way possible: It automatically did it when you exited the game after playing.|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Actually, I agree with him on that. The forums are to increase an experience. I also don't feel they should be mandatory for absolutely vital information. Anything that must be conveyed to the players (such as things that might inconvenience their ability to log in) should be attainable in as few clicks as possible. I'm talkin' one: Clicking the CoH button.
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Of course, this only happens when you access the game in the proper way.
This line of argument is, essentially, the same reason why we have "Do Not Eat" labels on inedible things, "Do Not Use in Bathtub" warnings on hairdryers and all sorts of signage telling people things that they shouldn't need to be told anyway.
Use it properly, it works properly. Don't and it doesn't. Quite simple, IMO.
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"the proper way" to WHO? Sounds like a design flaw to me: If you want this benefit you MUST run the game in this way!|
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
Well, the thing is... that information WAS out there. And in the shortest way possible: It automatically did it when you exited the game after playing.
Of course, this only happens when you access the game in the proper way. |
I have a habit of not using the updater because I used to crash quite a bit, and having to verify files is VERY annoying. The only way I know to skip that is to skip the updater - so it's a design flaw.
But to be honest, I probably wouldn't have downloaded it ahead of time anyway. The download makes my computer run slow and I would have preferred just doing it tomorrow, when I knew the patch was coming out, and I could just run it while I do some thing else. But then they released it early, and here I am being unable to play...
I'm not complaining about missing out on the pre download because I don't use the updater, but have pre downloads always been tied to the updater? I've been skipping the updater since issue 3 and this is the only time I can remember missing out of a predownload.
Of course in a month I'll forget the lesson I learned today and miss the next predownload and be all surprised again.
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your workaround for crummy hardware isn't the devs responsibility, sorry.
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Originally Posted by Clebstein
The only way I know to skip that is to skip the updater - so it's a design flaw.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
your workaround for crummy hardware isn't the devs responsibility, sorry.
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The OP is responsible for his crappy computer not the devs.
not that I'm unsympathetic to people playing on substandard computers- I used to be one of them.
but I put the blame where it belonged, right on the shoulders of my crummy hardware.
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Wait, WHAT? Your play experience was hampered by numerous crashes, so instead of letting the game verify files and possibly correct problems, you just circumvented the fix?|
Originally Posted by Clebstein
"the proper way" to WHO? Sounds like a design flaw to me: If you want this benefit you MUST run the game in this way!
I have a habit of not using the updater because I used to crash quite a bit, and having to verify files is VERY annoying. The only way I know to skip that is to skip the updater - so it's a design flaw. But to be honest, I probably wouldn't have downloaded it ahead of time anyway. The download makes my computer run slow and I would have preferred just doing it tomorrow, when I knew the patch was coming out, and I could just run it while I do some thing else. But then they released it early, and here I am being unable to play... |
I agree that you should never be expected to read the forums, but using the updater isn't bad design...it's a nice catch-all for the computer inept to get the patches they need to play. It's a standard MMO practice and I love it.
Secondly, I'm not usually a dev apologist, but I imagine threads like this make them just throw their hands up and sigh. "Christmas got bumped up a day, and since no-one told me, I had to shop for a ham today! Bah Humbug!"
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That was your first mistake. Unless you aren't making mistakes, but *causing* them.|
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Also, after today I stop making mistakes.
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as I like to say, if the devs handed out free gold bars some folk would complain about how heavy they were.
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Originally Posted by Gehnen
Secondly, I'm not usually a dev apologist, but I imagine threads like this make them just throw their hands up and sigh. "Christmas got bumped up a day, and since no-one told me, I had to shop for a ham today! Bah Humbug!"
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And some people would complain that they were handed out a day early.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
as I like to say, if the devs handed out free gold bars some folk would complain about how heavy they were.
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I'm not unsympathetic either as I was in the OP's situation 2 years ago, but I agree with you the blame is in the hardware on the OP's end.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
not that I'm unsympathetic to people playing on substandard computers- I used to be one of them.
but I put the blame where it belonged, right on the shoulders of my crummy hardware. |
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Today I can make mistakes(but it's unlikely). Tomorrow is when the mistakes stop.
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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
That was your first mistake. Unless you aren't making mistakes, but *causing* them.
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It really is though. They're the ones who didn't add a "skip" for verifying files.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
your workaround for crummy hardware isn't the devs responsibility, sorry.
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Originally Posted by Gehnen
Wait, WHAT? Your play experience was hampered by numerous crashes, so instead of letting the game verify files and possibly correct problems, you just circumvented the fix?
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Man, tomorrow is going to be a good day for you.
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Today I can make mistakes(but it's unlikely). Tomorrow is when the mistakes stop.
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Sorry to tell you this. The Updater has its limitations. It can't fix hardware problems, or software problems unrelated to the CoH/V/GR software itself.
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Originally Posted by Clebstein
Incorrect. I've verified my files DOZENS of times. Yet, the crashes still occurred. It's only because it doesn't fix any thing that I decided to stop wasting my time with it.
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There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
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If an update made your computer spit out $100 bills every minute, people would complain that the bills weren't sequential. If it were changed so they were sequential, people would complain that they needed the untraceable cash.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
as I like to say, if the devs handed out free gold bars some folk would complain about how heavy they were.
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Yes, I know that...that's why it's useless to me and therefore I skip it.
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Originally Posted by Twisted Toon
Sorry to tell you this. The Updater has its limitations. It can't fix hardware problems, or software problems unrelated to the CoH/V/GR software itself.
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...You can DO that? o_o
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Originally Posted by Clebstein
It must not be available when you launch CoH directly, with out using the updater.
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I can see that happening. "I carry books with me on monday, adding gold bars hurts my back!"|
Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
And some people would complain that they were handed out a day early.
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Anyway. This topic is very amusing! But I think I'll go hide under a bridge or something now.
its like every effort was made to avoid knowing aboutteh predownload, including ignoring experience with previous issue releases.
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Yep, make a shortcut to City of Heroes.exe and add -project "coh" to the end of it. So it should look like:|
Originally Posted by flashrains
...You can DO that? o_o
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"C:\Program Files\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe" -project "coh"
...Depending on where you installed it of course.
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Hell yeah. It's when I finally join Emperor Cole's cause!
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Man, tomorrow is going to be a good day for you.
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A lost cause |
Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Hell yeah. It's when I finally join Emperor Cole's cause!
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My opinion. And that's more on the philosophy of an online gaming experience, which has no "correct" answer.