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Hoping that someone here will be able to help me figure something out....... I think that Luke Skywalker went over to the dark side for a bit in a novel series or was it a comic book series? What I would like to know is what are the titles of the books and are they still available?

At any rate thank you in advance for any help you can share with me.


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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny View Post
Hoping that someone here will be able to help me figure something out....... I think that Luke Skywalker went over to the dark side for a bit in a novel series or was it a comic book series? What I would like to know is what are the titles of the books and are they still available?

At any rate thank you in advance for any help you can share with me.
That'd be Dark Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Empire
It was a comic book/graphic novel series. You can buy the reprint graphic novels on Amazon. A Hard Cover of the whole trilogy is coming out in October: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Dark...0373149&sr=8-2


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interesting...thank you all very much for the information.


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That's where the whole awful mess of the "official fan fiction" began...
All I know is that at some point we got "Tag and Bink are dead", so it was worth it.


 

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That's where the whole awful mess of the "official fan fiction" began...
yeah, how dare they expand on a rich setting and write better stories than the guy that first got the ball rolling!


 

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That's where the whole awful mess of the "official fan fiction" began...
Lucas gave it an official thumbs up.
Just sayin'


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This is over the top mental slavery.

 

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That's where the whole awful mess of the "official fan fiction" began...
What, you mean with this?


Great book btw.


 

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yeah, how dare they expand on a rich setting and write better stories than the guy that first got the ball rolling!
Yeah, bringing Palpatine back was great, because it undermined the entire climax of the real story.


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Just like the Holiday Special?
To be fair, Lucas has been trying to kill that program since it aired.

Also, GG, we get it, you're a purest. If it wasn't on film, it didn't happen.


 

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Yeah, bringing Palpatine back was great, because it undermined the entire climax of the real story.
yeah, to hell with that whole redeeming his father thing, it was Vader tossing the Emperor down the shaft that mattered. to wit i but say, 'yub yub'.


 

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I just loved the changing character traits between novels in Star Wars. One book Luke is trying to avoid killing ANYTHING and in another he's slaughtering his way through his opponents.


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Like father, like son?


 

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To be fair, Lucas has been trying to kill that program since it aired.

Also, GG, we get it, you're a purest. If it wasn't on film, it didn't happen.
This is one of those extremely rare cases when I generally agree with GG.

Which isn't to say that there hasn't been some decent or even good official fanfiction out there, such as BioWare's KotOR. But when push comes to shove, the movies are the final word for me.


 

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This is one of those extremely rare cases when I generally agree with GG.

Which isn't to say that there hasn't been some decent or even good official fanfiction out there, such as BioWare's KotOR. But when push comes to shove, the movies are the final word for me.
There are aspects of the expanded universe i really wish were delt more in the offical canon though. One thing in particular i always liked in EU was the idea that force adepts had specialties. Like where one force weilder might be more of a fighter, another might be more of a healer, another more of a philosopher etc.

My main dislike of the EU really came though when they started the new jedi order stuff. I think it was a mistake to try and make all these different authors write basicly one story arc. Atleast with the old publishers though one book might have sucked, there was a fresh story coming out in 4 more months. When they combined it all, now if you didnt like the story you were screwed.


 

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There are aspects of the expanded universe i really wish were delt more in the offical canon though. One thing in particular i always liked in EU was the idea that force adepts had specialties. Like where one force weilder might be more of a fighter, another might be more of a healer, another more of a philosopher etc.

My main dislike of the EU really came though when they started the new jedi order stuff. I think it was a mistake to try and make all these different authors write basicly one story arc. Atleast with the old publishers though one book might have sucked, there was a fresh story coming out in 4 more months. When they combined it all, now if you didnt like the story you were screwed.
Well it was particularly funny how even in the NJO it was many different versions of the same story. One minute the Vong were unstoppable badasses as if they'd been created by Frank Miller, the next they die like everyone else. Overall the entire idea behind NJO was just stupid.


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I know a lot of folks don't care for it, but I personally like the fleshing out the EU did of the Mandalorians. Turned them from faceless generic "bad guys in funky armor" into a people with motivations and culture and history.


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Well it was particularly funny how even in the NJO it was many different versions of the same story. One minute the Vong were unstoppable badasses as if they'd been created by Frank Miller, the next they die like everyone else. Overall the entire idea behind NJO was just stupid.
the idea was to bring in an enemy that wasn't the Imperial Remnant and create a mostly coherent series of books over a few years time, instead of writing a few novels that jumped from one point in time in the EU to another, and then back. execution flubbed at some points because some authors weren't as "in" with what was going as others were, and worse was some of the input Lucas tossed into the whole thing.

i didn't mind the NJO, but it certainly wasn't the miserable crapfest that was the Legacy of the Force series. this isn't to say all the EU stuff is bad or good, but if a franchise goes on long enough, you're going to have equals parts awesome (The Dark Knight, X2, 'Up, Up, and Away') and equal parts crap (Batman R.I.P., Wolverine:Origins, Superman IV).


 

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the idea was to bring in an enemy that wasn't the Imperial Remnant and create a mostly coherent series of books over a few years time, instead of writing a few novels that jumped from one point in time in the EU to another, and then back. execution flubbed at some points because some authors weren't as "in" with what was going as others were, and worse was some of the input Lucas tossed into the whole thing.

i didn't mind the NJO, but it certainly wasn't the miserable crapfest that was the Legacy of the Force series. this isn't to say all the EU stuff is bad or good, but if a franchise goes on long enough, you're going to have equals parts awesome (The Dark Knight, X2, 'Up, Up, and Away') and equal parts crap (Batman R.I.P., Wolverine:Origins, Superman IV).
Thats true the problem in the case of the star wars eu books though was that when Batman a batman story arc goes bad you still had 3-4 other batman books running to lean on. When the EU went bad they had commited fully to the NJO or later Legacy of the Force arcs and there is no where else to turn. Now if they had made the NJO say affect half the released books where you got one NJO then one independent book release, that would have been fine, i would have kept reading the independents and simply ignored the NJO. But when they changed publishers the idea of every book having to contribute to that story arc basicly turned me off buying and reading the EU books.


 

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Thats true the problem in the case of the star wars eu books though was that when Batman a batman story arc goes bad you still had 3-4 other batman books running to lean on. When the EU went bad they had commited fully to the NJO or later Legacy of the Force arcs and there is no where else to turn. Now if they had made the NJO say affect half the released books where you got one NJO then one independent book release, that would have been fine, i would have kept reading the independents and simply ignored the NJO. But when they changed publishers the idea of every book having to contribute to that story arc basicly turned me off buying and reading the EU books.
true. the bright side, there's still Dark Horse comics.


 

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yeah, to hell with that whole redeeming his father thing, it was Vader tossing the Emperor down the shaft that mattered. to wit i but say, 'yub yub'.
To be technical we never see him Die. Yes we see him fall with all the lighting and such and assumed he was killed.

We saw Luke fall down another shaft on Cloud City and we all know where that ended up.

Basically if you say he's dead show me the body!


 

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To be technical we never see him Die. Yes we see him fall with all the lighting and such and assumed he was killed.

We saw Luke fall down another shaft on Cloud City and we all know where that ended up.

Basically if you say he's dead show me the body!


Like Mace Windu getting tossed out the window......sure we were lead to believe he had died, however no body was ever shown......


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Yup lets take a look at the Movie Jedi powers.

Able to lift a ship from the bottom of the swamp.

Force shove and tossing things.

Phantom had Jedi Super speed sprint thing.

So Neither Emperor or Mace Windu both Masters of the Force couldn't save themselves where Luke could?

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It seems to me that a lot of the post-movie stuff (namely NJO and LotF) is a bit crazy and almost schizophrenic where the status quo changes every couple of years. There's an alien invasion from outside the galaxy, then the empire comes back, then the republic comes back etc. So while I haven't read a ton of the EU, I try to stick with stuff close to the movies, because at least then I know the state of things won't be changing wildly, and the situations won't get ridiculous like the previously mentioned Palpatine case. On the other hand though, I do plan on reading Fatal Alliance (the old republic novel) at some point. For whatever reason I don't have a problem with the pre-movie stuff (maybe because I played KotoR).


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