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Originally Posted by RottenLuck
To be technical we never see him Die. Yes we see him fall with all the lighting and such and assumed he was killed.
We saw Luke fall down another shaft on Cloud City and we all know where that ended up. Basically if you say he's dead show me the body! |
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Like Mace Windu getting tossed out the window......sure we were lead to believe he had died, however no body was ever shown......
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And we never actually saw Anakin's body being burnt on the pyre - just the armor - and when we saw him "die" on the Death Star, he might just have been taking a nap - there's no proof that he died.
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Like Mace Windu getting tossed out the window......sure we were lead to believe he had died, however no body was ever shown......
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@Golden Girl
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Has anybody read the books Darth Bane is in? Ive read some of the other stuff but I actually really enjoyed those three books. Maybe its that its main character is not in the movies and the plot is far removed from the events in the films? I don't know but I do know I liked them.
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This is a very good point. A lot of the EU stuff that focuses on non movie characters is quite good. I, Jedi is one of my favorite.
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Originally Posted by Crim_the_Cold
Has anybody read the books Darth Bane is in? Ive read some of the other stuff but I actually really enjoyed those three books. Maybe its that its main character is not in the movies and the plot is far removed from the events in the films? I don't know but I do know I liked them.
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Since he died on the Death Star, when Luke was leaving with him. Then you see the double vision clone on him young and old look over Luke with the two other dead Jedi.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
And we never actually saw Anakin's body being burnt on the pyre - just the armor - and when we saw him "die" on the Death Star, he might just have been taking a nap - there's no proof that he died.
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Really? We only saw him close his eyes on the Death Star with Luke - that's not proof that he's dead - and as for the Force ghosts, they look a lot like the holograms in the movies, so they must be holograms too.|
Originally Posted by Mylia
Since he died on the Death Star, when Luke was leaving with him. Then you see the double vision clone on him young and old look over Luke with the two other dead Jedi.
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@Golden Girl
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Yes I see what you are trying to do, but the story of Anakin has been complete, he has built the circle which was portrayed.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Really? We only saw him close his eyes on the Death Star with Luke - that's not proof that he's dead - and as for the Force ghosts, they look a lot like the holograms in the movies, so they must be holograms too.
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So what you're saying is that Obi-Wan teleported away, which is why he left no body, and was communicating via hologram the entire time! It all makes sense now!|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Really? We only saw him close his eyes on the Death Star with Luke - that's not proof that he's dead - and as for the Force ghosts, they look a lot like the holograms in the movies, so they must be holograms too.
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In other news, big bad villains tend to return from certain death even when there IS a body. It's what they do. Besides which, Luke didn't smash Palpatine's Phylactery, and everyone knows you can't really kill a Force Lich without smashing its Phylactery.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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Originally Posted by ObiWan
This is a very good point. A lot of the EU stuff that focuses on non movie characters is quite good. I, Jedi is one of my favorite.
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By the catapillars hooka you WILL smile!
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Which is pointless if Palpatine survives |
Originally Posted by Mylia
Yes I see what you are trying to do, but the story of Anakin has been complete, he has built the circle which was portrayed.
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@Golden Girl
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Ya know, I found this old record drama. Called, iirc, "Battle for Ord Mantell". On vinyl and everything. Still haven't listened to it, but I should one of these days. >.<
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No it's not. Since it was never about Palpatine dying, it was about Anakin resolving his sins, from everything he did. Palpatine's death was not needed for this.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Which is pointless if Palpatine survives
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But of course you do not believe in anything past the 6th film. Even if we got the "long lost" scripts of 7-9 which could of made him come back would it still be far fetched? Palpatine was talking about one in the force who could make life "eternal"
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His survival or lack thereof doesn't impact the main story. All that's required by the main story is that he's defeated in spectacular fashion, which is satisfied in the events of RotJ regardless of whether he survives (directly or via clone).
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Which is pointless if Palpatine survives
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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Here ya go!
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Ya know, I found this old record drama. Called, iirc, "Battle for Ord Mantell". On vinyl and everything. Still haven't listened to it, but I should one of these days. >.<
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Thank you, that's the one.|
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I do have an actual record player, so I can listen to it. It's just a matter of finding the time to do so.
Found it in an antique store for like $8-9. Not a bad price, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Vox Populi
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holy krunk, it's been years since ive even thought of that. very awesome find!
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Anakin's personal journey is matched by the rise and fall of the Empire, with the death of Palpatine wiping out the Sith and bringing balance to the Force - Anakin's death destroys the Sith and the Empire.
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Originally Posted by Mylia
No it's not. Since it was never about Palpatine dying, it was about Anakin resolving his sins, from everything he did. Palpatine's death was not needed for this.
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@Golden Girl
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Except it doesn't truly destroy the Sith. There's still holocrons out there with the Sith philosophy, there's still Korriban, there's still Sith spirits, there's still the Dark Side. "Sith" as it were, were an actual race in the Star Wars universe. Palpatine and Vader were adherents to the Sith (aka Dark Jedi who ruled over the actual Sith) philosophy.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Anakin's personal journey is matched by the rise and fall of the Empire, with the death of Palpatine wiping out the Sith and bringing balance to the Force - Anakin's death destroys the Sith and the Empire.
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And where there's human nature in that universe, there will always be a Sith. They may not go by that name precisely, but will decide that Might Makes Right.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
There's still holocrons out there with the Sith philosophy, there's still Korriban, there's still Sith spirits, there's still the Dark Side.
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@Golden Girl
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Do you deny that the Dark Side still exists once the Emperor is defeated?|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I must have missed those parts in the movies
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Do you also honestly believe that the Emperor's death destroyed the Empire for once and all?
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Yes and yes - I only follow the movies - fake Star Wars is worthless |
Originally Posted by Dark One
Do you deny that the Dark Side still exists once the Emperor is defeated?
Do you also honestly believe that the Emperor's death destroyed the Empire for once and all? |
@Golden Girl
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Wow...so the death of the Emperor completely eliminated any person's need for greed and power. What a fantastic world you live in.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Yes and yes - I only follow the movies - fake Star Wars is worthless
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And you honestly think that because you cut off one head of the massive military apparatus that is the Empire, the rest will just lay down their arms and give up their worlds?
Naive, you have a new poster girl.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Wow...so the death of the Emperor completely eliminated any person's need for greed and power. What a fantastic world you live in.
And you honestly think that because you cut off one head of the massive military apparatus that is the Empire, the rest will just lay down their arms and give up their worlds? Naive, you have a new poster girl. |
@Golden Girl
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Er guys... Palpatine does die in the Death Star. The Dark Empire series doesn't dispute this.
The Palpatine in the Dark Empire series is a clone, not the real thing. Apparently the emperor scattered clones of himself over the universe for contingencies just like this.
Mind you, I think the whole 'Clone" thing is overused, and is a complete MacGuffin, but Vader really does kill Palpatine.
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