"This superhero goes to eleven."
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
"This superhero goes to eleven."
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No, it never will. |
Originally Posted by riverbrat
Does anyone know if COH will ever expand the playing lvl to atleast 70..i aked this 5years ago and still nothing whats the problem?
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The problem is there is no REASON to expand it. The entire game is designed around level 50 being the highest level there is.
It would set a precedent that would be bad for the game. It would take no more than a week for players to hit the new level cap and do all the higher level content, and people would be clamoring for another level cap raise.
It would be a crap ton of work for the devs to do for no real reason at all. In order to churn out enough content to fill 20 levels of new stuff it would take well over a year to produce, during which we would get nothing else. It would also invalidate a ton of work the devs have done on what is currently high level content. Purple recipes would be obsolete, Hami-Os would expire. Higher level IOs would be pointless, because the current ones already slam you into the ED caps. A higher level cap would be nothing more than a bigger number to reach, and it would serve no useful purpose.
"It's what WoW did" is a horrible excuse to do anything, and it doesn't fly here. Aping every move WoW makes is not going to magically make millions of people sign up to play. WoW is an abberation and should not be considered a mark you have to reach to be considered "successful". Before WoW, 100,000 subscribers was considered thriving, and that actually hasn't changed. The fact that WoW has millions doesn't change the fact that 100,000 subscribers is a healthy playerbase.
In short, the level cap won't be raised because it's a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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Is there any other kind? |
Originally Posted by Decorum
Sort of, but I'm not sure exactly which Circle of Hell is for self-centered egotism.
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WoW already simplified all the newbie zones by making all the mobs yellow (non-aggro) in the starting areas. It doesn't get much simpler than that. (I wonder if too many level one characters were complaining that they were actually getting attacked by the mobs.) Considering what the level 80 content is like, this isn't doing anyone any favors.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
Evidence in point for Arcanaville is World of Warcraft.
According to Activision / Blizzard, less than 30% of the playerbase gets beyond level 10. This means that there is severe disparity between the starting player and the existing player. This is one of the reasons Activision / Blizzard is reworking the beginning zones and early levels yet again, making it easier and quicker for the starting playerbase, or players with newer characters, to get to higher levels and actually get to take part in the later level content. This goes back to my point of Bad Game Design. >snip< |
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How's this working for you? Still smoke-free?
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Warning: As of Thursday March 4th I gave up cigarettes. I am irritable and grouchy, meaning my posts will contain much more snark than usual for the next several weeks.
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This is off-topic, but a hole in the wall was not all that allows this to be finished fast. I was never on a team that used a hole in anything, and we were doing it in 10 minutes. (We still could, but we never bother unless someone just wants the badge.)
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Originally Posted by _Pine_
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 instead of the devs fixing the hole in the wall that let you finish it fast, they just made it so that no one wanted to do it except for the stinkin badge. |
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
"This superhero goes to eleven."
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"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps
We need between-levels.
We can expand the level cap to 500 in an instant, by upping people's displayed level-numbers with each bar of XP. Of course, powers and slots would only occur on the ones divisible by ten.
Later on, when a lot more fretting about 500 being too low a cap, we can divide the bars into pips, and have a 5000 level cap. Of course, powers and slots would only occur on the ones divisible by a hundred...
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Easier solution: Rename "Experience" to "Level"!
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Originally Posted by Ardrea
We need between-levels.
We can expand the level cap to 500 in an instant, by upping people's displayed level-numbers with each bar of XP. Of course, powers and slots would only occur on the ones divisible by ten. Later on, when a lot more fretting about 500 being too low a cap, we can divide the bars into pips, and have a 5000 level cap. Of course, powers and slots would only occur on the ones divisible by a hundred... |
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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No good. They'd want the level cap raised above 39,149,119.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Easier solution: Rename "Experience" to "Level"!
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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First that thing saying that a majority of players never finish games, now this. Apparently the vast majority of people just log into games, screw around for a few hours, and never touch them again.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
According to Activision / Blizzard, less than 30% of the playerbase gets beyond level 10.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
According to Activision / Blizzard, less than 30% of the playerbase gets beyond level 10.
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Originally Posted by Kelenar
First that thing saying that a majority of players never finish games, now this. Apparently the vast majority of people just log into games, screw around for a few hours, and never touch them again.
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Yet another tragic moment in not-being-able-to-plusRep-someone history :/
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
There is no problem. The Incarnate system will be adding the equivalent of another ten levels, but it's more of a secondary career/path than just tacking another ten levels onto the game with recolored Hellions.
i appreciate the arrogance of your attitude in posting "i aked this 5years ago and still nothing whats the problem?" 5 years ago no Dev promised you or anyone else an increase in the level cap to 70, or anything past 50, and none has occurred, so obviously there is no problem. Furthermore, i find your lack of apostrophes (and faith) disturbing. So i now say unto you FNORD. (You should now be feeling anxious about the subject for no conscious reason. If this is not happening please report to your nearest Illuminati endorsed salon.) |
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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic.
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But but but if i'm not PROGRESSING what's the POINT?!
DDOOOOOOM!
..Hypothetically speaking, if the devs REALLY felt like it, they could raise the level cap to 80-something and allow us to take and 6-slot all 18 pri/sec powers, all 4 powers from any 4 power pools and all 5 powers from our APP (though several slot levels would have to give 3 slots instead of just 2).
But again, there'd be little point in this. Most people would be "stuck" with an extra tray and a half of powers they never use and then, assuming a fully tricked build with all the best IOs and Incarnate levels and goodies... THEN what? You run into the exact same problem as you have now, except there's no way at ALL to advance your character. There'd be even LESS point to another level cap raise.
Best thing to do is not even get into that situation in the first place.
... Though I would be amendable to a comprimise. Extend the level cap to 100... but with NO advancement or change in challenge or content past level 50. Levels 51-100 would just be an indicator of how much stuff you've killed. You get a million XP, you do the "level up" thing, your level says 51... but no training, no new enemies, nada. Your combat level is still 50, but you can still feel like you're "advancing". Though this also would eventually stop and people would want another level cap raise.
I bring this up because aside from WoW (which if it wasn't related to a beloved franchise and backed by one of the most celebrated game publishers in the world would have probably died a horrible death by now), this is an MMO, and that means it's entire SCHTICK is the "Carrot on a stick" mentality. But at level 50, you get the carrot and you're left feeling unfulfilled because there's "no reason" to continue going on. You spend all that time getting addicted to the sensation of being rewarded and now you're cut off. Gaining more money to buy stuff to trick yourself out works, but that's a self-set goal and not something automatically granted by regular gameplay. There's no guarantee of a purple dropping after 1000 enemies. You don't get a level up explosion and a plethora of inspirations in the middle of a tough battle, turning the tide. The game itself no longer rewards you, and people want that experience back if/when they continue to play.
..which is why you roll an alt. So mweh.
-STEELE =)
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I was being repetitive, repeating myself, saying the same thing over and over again...for emphasis. |
NekoNeko wants subdivisions: Is there any other kind?
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Dec out.
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Huh. I actually like this. Go figure. Even after you've hit the actual level cap, it might give you the sense of how much you've accomplished {or at least how much XP you would have earned} while playing afterward.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
... Though I would be amendable to a comprimise. Extend the level cap to 100... but with NO advancement or change in challenge or content past level 50. Levels 51-100 would just be an indicator of how much stuff you've killed. You get a million XP, you do the "level up" thing, your level says 51... but no training, no new enemies, nada. Your combat level is still 50, but you can still feel like you're "advancing". Though this also would eventually stop and people would want another level cap raise.
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This seems to be a compromise of sanity more than anything else.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
... Though I would be amendable to a comprimise. Extend the level cap to 100... but with NO advancement or change in challenge or content past level 50. Levels 51-100 would just be an indicator of how much stuff you've killed. You get a million XP, you do the "level up" thing, your level says 51... but no training, no new enemies, nada. Your combat level is still 50, but you can still feel like you're "advancing". Though this also would eventually stop and people would want another level cap raise.
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I could live with that should it ever actually happen. GW uses this, although I suppose you could argue that they do it to accumulate extra skill points. Still, you eventually reach the point where those skill points serve no purpose except to tell how many "levels" you would have gained since hitting the actual level cap.
| ... Though I would be amendable to a comprimise. Extend the level cap to 100... but with NO advancement or change in challenge or content past level 50. Levels 51-100 would just be an indicator of how much stuff you've killed. You get a million XP, you do the "level up" thing, your level says 51... but no training, no new enemies, nada. Your combat level is still 50, but you can still feel like you're "advancing". Though this also would eventually stop and people would want another level cap raise. |
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So you are a representative of the United States Department of Redundancy Department of the United States? (aka U.S. DRDD Department of the U.S.)
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Originally Posted by Decorum
I was being repetitive, repeating myself, saying the same thing over and over again...for emphasis.
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