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Originally Posted by Psyrene
See above..nm..WHO CARES???????? Again ask in the Badges forum.
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[Seemingly delayed double-post. That really doesn't help things. Sorry]
Gagged and bagged
Who I'm not is the person who just said, "I'm finished with this thread. It needs to be closed. "
Ok so since i can only talk about cathedral of pain.
It will probably end up like any "hard" content in this game. Wail on a giant bag of hp with retarded a.i until it drops.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
and yet subscriptions didn't drop...
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srsly, sai needs to post about pvp moar often. it brings massive lulz.
EDIT: why does mod12 keep deleting everything >:O
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Originally Posted by Ghost Falcon
Hey folks,
With the release of the "Issue 18: Overview" today, I wanted to address some questions that would naturally arise within the PvP community regarding the return of the Cathedral of Pain. Previously the Cathedral of Pain was used to acquire Items of Power which were instrumental in Base Raiding. The initial implementation of the CoP was exploitable and ultimately removed. We have always wanted to revisit the CoP and return it to something players could participate in, and with Issue 18 we will be doing just that. The new implementation of the Cathedral of Pain gives the choice of a number of rewards to players, but it does not contain Items of Power. Base Raiding is currently on hold and not being actively worked on. We understand that this may disappoint some of you in the PvP community, but we wanted to tell it to you straight to minimize any confusion or false hope that Base Raiding would be addressed in this new iteration of the Cathedral of Pain. Thanks, Ghost Falcon |
Sounds stupid.
Fix PvP
On the other hand, I would have never been able to do this (Tf?) as it was before, so I may try a few to see what this Trial is all about. Maybe a change that wasn't too important, but still something else to try out.
Mod 8'd for the win, encounter number two, wonder how many it takes to get banned.... My post having nothing to do with CoP, that covers about all the posts in here.... XD
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Originally Posted by Borderline Boss
Thanks for the information, Ghost Falcon!
But now, onto a more trendy topic. What is the update on the status of removing Travel Suppression, Heal Decay, Diminishing Returns, Mez Resistance opposed to protection, base resistances, and the weird damage of powers? Basically, i13 as a whole. Everything putting a stop to the growth of pvp and its population. Here's hope for a fix! |
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Originally Posted by black_barrier
Yeah. This.
I seriously don't care if the Cathedral of Pain is coming back, you guys already made it so that you don't need to have a supercomputer to do that crappy SF villainside, and we know that in the end, you're just gonna back off and make it the Cathedral of Pain Trial, which starts in some random co-op zone.. blah blah blah, etc etc. My point is, this announcement is only relevant to the PVP community if one of the following conditions is met: 1. Cathedral of Pain includes PVP based on i12 rules. 2. I can PL a toon from 1-50 in 45 minutes again. 3. That's basically it. I vote someone move this thread off of the PVP forums. |
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Originally Posted by Dawk_Boy
Please give us back base raids so we can do Repel Ball.
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I like how my posts get deleted simply because I use actual published numbers to prove someone else wrong. That's cool, I guess. I somehow have this feeling that Mod12 was hired to peruse the forums and delete anything PvP-related that came across as negative.
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Originally Posted by macskull
I like how my posts get deleted simply because I use actual published numbers to prove someone else wrong. That's cool, I guess. I somehow have this feeling that Mod12 was hired to peruse the forums and delete anything PvP-related that came across as negative.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
and yet subscriptions didn't drop...
funny that. |
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Sales have dropped significantly over the past year. I don't want to say it's related, because I don't know. Pretending like they didn't, though, is disingenuous.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Sales have dropped significantly over the past year. I don't want to say it's related, because I don't know. Pretending like they didn't, though, is disingenuous.
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Originally Posted by eltonio
This is over the top mental slavery.
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mod12 is the new sheriff in town and he/she don't take no guff from pvper's. I've gotten more mod action in the last 2 days than in the previous 6 months. Welcome mod12 indeed!
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Originally Posted by je_saist
There's a difference between sales dropping over the course of a year and half (Issue 13 was released on October 8, 2008), and sales dropping immediately signaling displeasure from the playing base. |
| Trust me, I've been playing games where the devs pulled a Planetside, and massive amounts of players just disappeared. City of Heroes hasn't seen anything like that. |
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
You don't honestly believe what you are saying do you? Single month subscriptions are only one payment option. A reasonable person would expect a steady decline rather than a spike when something upsets a small portion of the player base. Considering we were told this was just phase one and they made it sound like they weren't going to ditch us like a prom night dumpster baby. I'm sure quite a few people hung around taking a wait and see approach.
I know a number of people that canceled with pre-paid durations at that time, but that would not be reflected in a "steep dropoff". But it would be represented in a steady decline when their tickets come due and even after x number of months the devs couldn't win them back. The only thing that is certain is that when i13 hit live the pvp population went "poof". Whether they canceled immediately and all utilized single month payment plans is uncertain, but unlikely. They however, did stop pvp'ing. They could also be like me, where I just moved over to pvp, but am unhappy with their decisions involving pvp and as such would never recommend this game to anyone. Which is not a good thing from a business point of view. I stay because I'm so invested in it. Additionally, if we employ actual logic which I understand might be tough, it is safe to conclude that many pvp'ers were using anything but month to month because so many of them were running multiple accounts. That is what happens when you drop a bomb on the entire populace. What happened here is when you drop a bomb on a portion of the populace. |
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Originally Posted by je_saist
There's a difference between sales dropping over the course of a year and half (Issue 13 was released on October 8, 2008), and sales dropping immediately signaling displeasure from the playing base.
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
srsly, sai needs to post about pvp moar often. it brings massive lulz.
EDIT: why does mod12 keep deleting everything >:O |
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Originally Posted by je_saist
There's a difference between sales dropping over the course of a year and half (Issue 13 was released on October 8, 2008), and sales dropping immediately signaling displeasure from the playing base. E.G. : Compare the NCSoft financial reports from Tabula Rasa's launch / demise, or the SOE financial reports from either Planetside or Star Wars Galaxies, with those made since I13 launched. There's no equivalent steep plunge following the release of something players didn't like. Trust me, I've been playing games where the devs pulled a Planetside, and massive amounts of players just disappeared. City of Heroes hasn't seen anything like that. |
Y'all expect so much.
Castle just learned how defense worked when he looked at Blessing of the Zephyr for the first time. He was only the powers guys for what, 2 years before that. You can't expect him to understand something as complex as pvp and real endgame content. Oh wait, never mind Positron is handling the end game. Now he can completely finish off what he started with the MA system. Maybe the will let Jay work on PVP next. Then it would be fabulous.
Hey 12, I'm sure your job is cute atm, but don't over do it. Thanx.
Oh and bad troll = troll. Hey sai,