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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk View Post
I will buy it too. While not iconic for mutants at all, it still looks great. I just hope we get the animal pack soon.
Ditto. I'll be getting it because it'll support the game I love and there are enough things I can use out of it. I'm not forgetting about animal packs tho.. give 'em!


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I think some people wanted this pack to be the Beasts costume pack more than a Mutation pack.
Indeed. And instead they're trying to blame it on the pack not being "Mutanty" enough.

What I do love about this pack is that it covers so much with just two costume sets. You can make organic, tree-like mutants as some people made them. You can make scary overlord types, along with aliens and mutated lizards. You can make a complete Witchblade rip off (I know I will!) or a demonic hellspawn. You could use it to give glowing eyes to your existing characters, or use it to make characters similar to Alex Mercer from Prototype.

If the pack was "Super Booster V: Beasts", you could only make...beasts.

Is that really so hard for people to understand? That maximizing audience is the ultimate goal?


 

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Nothing in this pack seems to me very Mutant.

It just seems Mutant Booster means glowie and translucient. That is all the parts are oh and exposing as much skin as possible. Typical J-Love work. At least Bio looks like a glowing frog thing.

Most people have been hoping for more monster pieces especially monster heads and tails. This still is not done and people were promised this in the Mutant pack by Posie over a year ago.


 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Animal Parts != Mutant Parts.

I dunno why everyone seems to think it does
Maybe....

Nah. Couldn't be.


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This still is not done and people were promised this in the Mutant pack by Posie over a year ago.
To be fair, he never promised anything. What he said was something along the lines of "that sounds like something you'd find in a Mutant booster pack". It sounded like one of his little hints that he slips us of what's coming, but in this case I guess it wasn't.

Upset though I may be, I need to be honest here. No such promises were ever made, and this could all be due to a (widespread) misunderstanding.

Lesson learned: If you think the devs are bringing you what you want, keep asking for it anyway. Don't trust "hints", only fully stated facts.


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To be fair, he never promised anything. What he said was something along the lines of "that sounds like something you'd find in a Mutant booster pack". It sounded like one of his little hints that he slips us of what's coming, but in this case I guess it wasn't.

Upset though I may be, I need to be honest here. No such promises were ever made, and this could all be due to a (widespread) misunderstanding.

Lesson learned: If you think the devs are bringing you what you want, keep asking for it anyway. Don't trust "hints", only fully stated facts.
Even then never take the word of a developer for fact. In a large-scale team project, especially software-related projects, unexpected things happen constantly.


 

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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg View Post
I just wanted more tentacles.
At least one, y'know? ANYWHERE.


 

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Originally Posted by Rabid_Metroid View Post
Quite a while back, when someone was asking for animal parts, one of the Devs (Posi, wasn't it?) said that that sounded like something we'd find in a Mutant Booster. Given that such comments are how the Devs usually hint at things that marketing won't let them directly tell us, everyone took that to mean that animal parts were coming in the mutant booster.
Nope, he said it might be in a future booster pack. Nakayama has outright said there will be further packs after this one.

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something that experienced people could create in a weekend
You sound like a child asking a scientist why we don't have colonies on the moon, because you saw it in a movie, so it must be easy.

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I think some people wanted this pack to be the Beasts costume pack more than a Mutation pack.
They wanted it so much that they latched onto every hint that it might be so, or even making up hints that it would be so, magnifying them into promises through the power of the rumor mill and then feeling that it justifies their anger when they don't get their way.


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Nope, he said it might be in a future booster pack. Nakayama has outright said there will be further packs after this one.

You sound like a child asking a scientist why we don't have colonies on the moon, because you saw it in a movie, so it must be easy.

They wanted it so much that they latched onto every hint that it might be so, or even making up hints that it would be so, magnifying them into promises through the power of the rumor mill and then feeling that it justifies their anger when they don't get their way.
Agreed.


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While I was a little disappointed this booster didn't contain any animal parts, after I started trying and reading about it, I'm actually quite happy about what's contained within the pack and I'm sure to purchase it when it goes live too.

I think people were just hoping SO much that this would finally enable some convincing anthropomorphic animal characters and beasts that when this came out it caused great backlash, especially after misinterpreting Positron's 'hint' that such parts would be included in a mutant booster.

I already found a use for the costume pieces on my main hero's alternate form, I figure that biolum would be the most flexible for other costumes and characters, though I'm sure I'll find a use for Organic armour somewhere.

Energy Morph is also going to be one my most chosen CCE emotes for my main hero too, though Dimension Shift is also equally as impressive, not too fond of Rapid Boil though, and it doesn't fit any of my current concepts either. I felt the regular emotes Showoff and Growl were a bit lack lustre, Showoff might make a great taunt power-customised animation if it were slowed to a more natural speed, Growl doesn't seem to click with my characters either, so I suppose it'll be just good for when there really is a animal/beast booster.

Secondary Mutation sounds like a really good self-buffing power, even when I rolled Devolution I had a grand old time playing with it, but I understand there are quite a number of bugs with the power at the moment, from looping animations to reports that some buffs aren't working or not giving the correct amount of benefit. And boy people are worked up that there might be a RISK of a debuff somewhere, some people eh?



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They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend
I suppose you put yourself in this category, right? Do you honestly believe that creating a costume set can be that easy? Or two sets?

Please, please, please, come up with something half as good and show us how it's done. I bet you can't even get anything decent down on paper with a pencil, let alone rendering anything in 3D.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. Pretty simple, really. No one is forcing you to purchase every little thing that comes out of the studio and ends up on the game store page.


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Originally Posted by MLEdelen View Post
Frankly, they throw in 2 costumes that arn't really all that impressive, 3 emotes, and 1 power....and expect to make 10 dollars for it? These are things that Cryptic would put in the game for free with the release of the different issues. They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend, and then make it out to be a big deal with beta testing. As I said, the things they add in this game aren't really worth 10 dollars.
Completely agree with this.


 

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Frankly, they throw in 2 costumes that arn't really all that impressive, 3 emotes, and 1 power....and expect to make 10 dollars for it? These are things that Cryptic would put in the game for free with the release of the different issues. They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend, and then make it out to be a big deal with beta testing. As I said, the things they add in this game aren't really worth 10 dollars.
Don't know if you played CO but Cryptic has gone to this model also. You don't have access to the full amount of choices for costumes. You have to buy Cryptic Points to unlock certain themed costume pieces. So your statement use to be correct back in the day but it is not correct now. Many MMOs are going to this model because it helps support their games and helps to ensure new content continues. While your opinion may be valid, the reality we live in is that they can either do these little microtransaction packs or they can be like most other MMOs and save all the content additions for expansion packs that you will have to pay for at rate of about $25 to $30 a pop (think Everquest or WoW). While I was hoping they would do something different for the mutation pack; I am fine with them going the more Anime-ish path with this pack.


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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg View Post
I think what we got is fine too. But I expected tentacles.
You could use the shoulder pieces and Organic armor thorny as tentacles. I am with my character. I would like to see a power set that used tentacles more like whips than what is available with tenebrous tentacles. But I doubt that would happen.


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Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan View Post
I would be hesitant to declare that I would want a tentacle anywhere. There are places where I most definitely do not want a tentacle.
Only one tentacle in the wrong spot could cause a problem with the teen rating.


 

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I just wanted more tentacles.
Me Toooooooo! Nyarlahotep just wont be complete and enjoyable till he has tentacles somewhere on his body!


 

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"Mutant doesn't mean animal parts!" argument is just as annoying as the one they're arguing against.

OBVIOUSLY not all mutants have animal parts. I don't think anyone here is saying that ALL mutants have animal parts. So please stop with the "mutant != animal!"

What people ARE saying, is that we've been expecting animal parts for a long time, had two chances (science and mutant packs) for them to be introduced, and were even told by Posi that animal parts are the sort of thing that would be in the mutant pack. No, not ALL mutants have animal parts. But some do. And we've been waiting for them. And this was the best time to deliver. And they didn't.

You know what else you could apply that argument to? Not all naturals are ninjas. But the Martial Arts pack picked a theme (ninjas and martial arts) and went with it. Not all techs are cyborgs. Not all science-origins are mad scientists. You can't represent the entire spectrum of an origin with a simple costume pack. But what they could have done, and should have done (in some opinions) is given the players what they've been waiting for, asking for, and expecting. They didn't. Hence the "where's the animal parts?"

No, not all mutants are animals. Yes, the pieces we got are technically "mutant." Yes, they're fine parts. No, they weren't what a lot of people were expecting or asking for, and that's why there's an issue.


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We got animal parts in this set... 2 new tails!


 

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They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend....

yah right.


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"Mutant doesn't mean animal parts!" argument is just as annoying as the one they're arguing against.

OBVIOUSLY not all mutants have animal parts. I don't think anyone here is saying that ALL mutants have animal parts. So please stop with the "mutant != animal!"

What people ARE saying, is that we've been expecting animal parts for a long time, had two chances (science and mutant packs) for them to be introduced, and were even told by Posi that animal parts are the sort of thing that would be in the mutant pack. No, not ALL mutants have animal parts. But some do. And we've been waiting for them. And this was the best time to deliver. And they didn't.

You know what else you could apply that argument to? Not all naturals are ninjas. But the Martial Arts pack picked a theme (ninjas and martial arts) and went with it. Not all techs are cyborgs. Not all science-origins are mad scientists. You can't represent the entire spectrum of an origin with a simple costume pack. But what they could have done, and should have done (in some opinions) is given the players what they've been waiting for, asking for, and expecting. They didn't. Hence the "where's the animal parts?"

No, not all mutants are animals. Yes, the pieces we got are technically "mutant." Yes, they're fine parts. No, they weren't what a lot of people were expecting or asking for, and that's why there's an issue.
Very well said.


 

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I don't think anyone here is saying that ALL mutants have animal parts. So please stop with the "mutant != animal!"
People have been saying that all over the forums in just about every thread on the subject though...

Telling the devs the pack isn't mutant (or what they see mutants as) then posting pictures of animal mutants and telling us that is what a mutant looks like.