Super Booster V concern.


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So, I've taken time to play with the costume parts and think it over, and I think I can get a bit of use out of a few of the Bio Armor parts. That may not sound impressive, but that's about where the Cyborg stuff is for me.

The bonus power is good, and I can see myself using it most of the time, IF the repeating animation is a bug that gets fixed. Four out of the five emotes are outstanding, and I know I'll use them a lot. By and large, this booster seems to be a "Buy" for me.

However...

What I was expecting was animal parts. What I'm still hoping for is animal parts. What I'm worried about is that buying SBV will send the message that it doesn't matter, and make it even less likely that I'll ever see what I've been waiting for.

So, honest question for the people out there: Am I being silly, or is this a legitimate concern?


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Im still buying it, despite also having been asuming that the anthro parts a lot of people have been asking for would be in it.

David Nakayama's threads have given me hope that its still on the cards, though. So, buy away I say. They are pretty cool anyway, even if their not quite what we were told would be in it.


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Animal Parts != Mutant Parts.

I dunno why everyone seems to think it does, and wants to narrow this down to that. Frankly, I'm glad it wasn't that. I probably wouldn't buy it if it was.

These parts are going to benefit my main, who is Mutation, and some of my other existing characters, as well as new charcters I plan to make.




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I think the reason lots of people were expecting Animal parts is because it's the one area left that CO outstripped CoH, everything else is in CoH's favor, so it made sense to kind of cover up the weakspot that CoH has.

Meh anyway...I'm the reverse of you, if the mutation booster had animal parts I'd buy it but because it doesn't I'm not going to, I'm just not that impressed with it and feel it covers niches already filled.


 

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Not this again...

Mutation is not even remotely limited to "animal parts". Mutation can be anything, from hellish psuedo-demons to gooey psuedo-aliens and furry beasts.

This pack covered a small subset of the genre it's representing; like all other booster packs. Some are happy about it, some are not.

There is nothing to be "concerned" about. It's not like everyone will quit the game just cause they didn't get furry tails.

Every single player on CoH wants something, and every issue, they expect that one thing to be released. I've been wanting my stupid spiked leather wristbands since Issue 6!!! What makes "animal parts" so special? Plus, spiked leather wrist bands are way easier to make! I made one in Maya in 6 minutes!

And also, helpful tip: There is already a thread stickied on top of this very forum covering this same topic, more or less.


 

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Thank you to those that have given an actual reply to the question. I'm hoping to be convinced to buy it, I guess.

And Bright Shadow? I put this in a seperate thread because it's not actual feedback about the contents of the booster, it's about something else. I didn't want to clutter up the feedback threads with a derail. As to why people expected animal parts? Quite a while back, when someone was asking for animal parts, one of the Devs (Posi, wasn't it?) said that that sounded like something we'd find in a Mutant Booster. Given that such comments are how the Devs usually hint at things that marketing won't let them directly tell us, everyone took that to mean that animal parts were coming in the mutant booster. Personally, I have no problem with other mutant themes, but the sudden switch is disappointing.

David Nakayama's replies have convinced me that he's open to the idea. It's the reactions of everyone else I'm worried about. If the booster does well, will someone say that it means that the animal parts expecations are unimportant and to be forgotten? Will not buying the booster make the parts more likely to happen, less likely, or not matter at all?

*shrug* Maybe I'm overreacting. That's part of the reason I'm asking for people's thoughts on this.


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I was also one of the folks who was disappointed by the lack of animal/anthropomorphic parts. I won't be buying this one since it contains nothing I would use (except Secondary Mutation and two of the CCE's) until/unless I come up with a concept that can use it, or until I break down and decide a self-buff and two CCEs is worth $10 (unlikely).


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Animal Parts != Mutant Parts.

I dunno why everyone seems to think it does, and wants to narrow this down to that.


That is why.


 

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As to the OP. I too was expecting animal parts. However I will be buying it.

Your concerns are warranted but with the number of people asking for animal parts here you don't have much to worry about as it seems many are asking for it.

As long as people express there disappointment with this switch, I think the animal/beast pack will come out.


 

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Frankly, they throw in 2 costumes that arn't really all that impressive, 3 emotes, and 1 power....and expect to make 10 dollars for it? These are things that Cryptic would put in the game for free with the release of the different issues. They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend, and then make it out to be a big deal with beta testing. As I said, the things they add in this game aren't really worth 10 dollars.


 

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Actually I wouldn't mind seeing the numbers on the sales of the new booster pack once it comes out. I honestly think it'll be the lowest selling of the booster packs (I don't include the wedding one since it's not a booster pack just a costume pack). If they don't sell then it probably will send a message that they flubbed it on the player expectations who wanted something different, if it does sell then it shows they can produce anything and most people wont care. That probably sounds a lot harsher than I mean it to be, I honestly don't mean it in an Activision CoD2 map-pack kind of way (£10 for FIVE maps...you can take your map packs and shove them elsewhere...even if I know the general CoD2 playing public will snap them up...).

Everyone I talked to ingame was psyched about getting animal parts or even the possiblity of Cimerora Cyclops/Minotaur style parts or Soul Calibur Knightmare style massive mutated arm etc. and...as Sam puts it...we got more of the same, one set that looks more demonic than mutant and one that covers reptiles/shark mutations but little else. Quite a few people were turned off with what was produced and have decided not to buy it now.

I have a mildly crazy Conspiracy theorist side of me that says the devs honestly don't want to do animal/monstrous parts for whatever reason (Jay can't do animal costumes very well, they don't want to have a booster pack seen as 'the furry pack' whatever it is).

David was saying stuff along the lines of "we'll look into it after Going Rogue but is it something that the playerbase really wants?" which to me gives the vibe of "Eh...we'd rather not do it if we can get away with it and saying the players don't want it is a handy excuse" but that's just me being a crazy person...

Oh and MLEdelen while the costumes themselves aren't all that impressive the tech is, it's finally a sign of glowmapping on costumes, admittedly it's not that impressive when you realise it's a side-product of the Resistance costumes for Going Rogue but it shows that they can be done for players and not just NPCs.


 

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That is why.


This is why its not all about animal parts.


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This is why its not all about animal parts.

Amen


 

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That is why.
Even though they are called the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, they are not in fact "true" mutants. They were mutated by the Ooze, which makes them Science origin. Mutants are born with advanced DNA/genetic stuff that makes them have powers normal humans wouldn't have. If outside influences have given you abilities, you are not a mutant. A power suit (Iron Man, War Machine) is Tech, a spider bite (Spider-Man) or exposure to gamma radiation (Hulk) is Science, being an alien (Superman) or training really really hard (Batman, Punisher) is Natural, and being of demon heritage (???) or having an artifact that gives you powers (???) is Magic.

Since it was the toxic ooze that changed them, and they were then able to train really hard to be ninjas, they are a Science/Natural hybrid. They weren't born that way, so nope, no mutants here.


 

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and being of demon heritage (???) or having an artifact that gives you powers (???) is Magic.
Demon heritage or getting powers through being demonic would Etrigan ("gone, gone the form of man, rise the demon Etrigan!") and artifact that gives you power would be Green Lantern.


 

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I think some people wanted this pack to be the Beasts costume pack more than a Mutation pack.


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This is why its not all about animal parts.
This picture shows a bunch of people that look like normal humans and a few with animal-like parts. I don't see any evil-demon-exoskeletons or zebras with glowing stripes in there.


 

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This picture shows a bunch of people that look like normal humans and a few with animal-like parts. I don't see any evil-demon-exoskeletons or zebras with glowing stripes in there.
Actually, middle 3rd from the left, behind Storm, that sort of looks like an exo-skeleton demon.


 

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Even though they are called the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, they are not in fact "true" mutants. They were mutated by the Ooze, which makes them Science origin. Mutants are born with advanced DNA/genetic stuff that makes them have powers normal humans wouldn't have. If outside influences have given you abilities, you are not a mutant. A power suit (Iron Man, War Machine) is Tech, a spider bite (Spider-Man) or exposure to gamma radiation (Hulk) is Science, being an alien (Superman) or training really really hard (Batman, Punisher) is Natural, and being of demon heritage (???) or having an artifact that gives you powers (???) is Magic.

Since it was the toxic ooze that changed them, and they were then able to train really hard to be ninjas, they are a Science/Natural hybrid. They weren't born that way, so nope, no mutants here.
Yes, but in the end it is what we think of. And in a game about icons from the stuff we can do already, hybrid animal mutants are iconic and what is left.


 

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I just wanted more tentacles.
Seconded.

Instead we got scary demon outfit (I do like the other cossie though, very Abe Sapian from Hellboy).

Maybe it should have been called the Hellboy Booster actually*


 

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This is why its not all about animal parts.
I couldn't agree with you MORE.

HOWEVER... we can do EVERYTHING here except for the animal like things here.


 

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Actually, middle 3rd from the left, behind Storm, that sort of looks like an exo-skeleton demon.
I was about to point that out, but you beat me to it. And yes, that's kind of what he was, save being a mutant and not a demon.

Having thought about it, I think I know the real reason this is bugging me so much. The Dev comment made myself and others think animal parts were coming in the Mutant pack (and yes, I do realize that was likely not intended when the comment was made). When others have asked about better animal parts, I and others have told those asking about the comment and that we just needed to wait for the mutant booster. Now that it's here and it's not what we've been saying it would be, I guess I kind of feel like I've been lying to people. Simple mistake or not, I still feel bad.

*shrug* Like I've said before, I can find a use for a couple of the bio armor parts. The wings and shoulders will go well on a toxic dragon character I have. I guess I'll buy it, and just keep supporting the animal parts idea whenever and whereever I can.

Thanks for the feedback, guys.


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I was about to point that out, but you beat me to it. And yes, that's kind of what he was, save being a mutant and not a demon.

Having thought about it, I think I know the real reason this is bugging me so much. The Dev comment made myself and others think animal parts were coming in the Mutant pack (and yes, I do realize that was likely not intended when the comment was made). When others have asked about better animal parts, I and others have told those asking about the comment and that we just needed to wait for the mutant booster. Now that it's here and it's not what we've been saying it would be, I guess I kind of feel like I've been lying to people. Simple mistake or not, I still feel bad.

*shrug* Like I've said before, I can find a use for a couple of the bio armor parts. The wings and shoulders will go well on a toxic dragon character I have. I guess I'll buy it, and just keep supporting the animal parts idea whenever and whereever I can.

Thanks for the feedback, guys.
I will buy it too. While not iconic for mutants at all, it still looks great. I just hope we get the animal pack soon.