Reichsman is not fun.

I was finding the Khan Task Force to be really interesting, loved the first mission especially.

And then that final fight came.

Insane HP does not a fun fight make. It makes a long, boring slog that just gets frustrating and irritating soon, not to mention makes the hand ache.

That's all. Reminds me to stick to the older TF's.

Sincerely,

V. Annoyed Zortel.

/Agree.
It is another one of those tf's that need a specialised team to finish it.

Doable with any team make up really, but i've been on teams where final fight been over in 8-10 mins, and where it's lasted over 30+ mins. Just tedious and BOOORING ><

We would have eventually done it if we'd kept going. But without a good debuffer on the team it'd have taken about 15-30 minutes to do so and frankly we weren't that keen on doing it twice when he cheapshotted half the team into a wipe with his lightning.

Yes, I agree it is a catastrophic failure in encounter design. Have I completed it with a sub-optimal team? Yes, I think we had a /kin Controller and a Storm Defender on my first run. Was it difficult? No, the only times anyone died was when squishies stood too close, and they were immediately rezzed. Was it tedious? Very.

I've ran the red-side version one twice. First run was successful but was a slooooog. My 2nd run was with a very competent team, but in the end we couldn't out dps him before he hit his hibernate, and we didn't have the obligatory MM in order to stop it.

I ran the TF a few times when it first came out. My recollection was that we did not have a Rad the first two times I ran it. First run: success after about a 30 min slog against Reichsie. Second run: Reichsie gets to a whisper of hp, and STAYS THERE FOREVER. We would beat him down, he is at a sliver, he stayed there, would pop back up his hp, we beat him down to a sliver, rinse, repeat. We ultimately gave up.

My third run succeeded, but we had Mucho Debuffo, and my fourth run ran into the Stay at a Sliver of HP Forever Mode and was abandoned. Number Five was actually pretty easy.

I concluded that I would only succeed on odd-numbered runs.

We used the special weapons during each one, and they never had an effect that I could readily ascertain, although they looked very impressive. We also had to fight the other AVs, all four, each run.

There was a long thread at the time on this sort of fun with Reichsie, but there never seemed to be a consensus. There may well could have been bugs that got stamped out as well since that time.

My take on it has been that Run Number One nothwithstanding, you had best bring Debuffs as usual. There may be some damage dealers that especially are effective with Reichsie, but I have not been able to ascertain it. And be prepared to get zonked a few times, regardless.

Folks will run the ITF all the livelong day, but not the Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn! TF.

I still have to run Khan but I have formed opinions on the redside version with Barracuda. That final mission is one of the most intense missions in the game...until the ambushes run out. The encounter falls apart with Reichsman himself because he isn't that interesting to fight on his own due to the exceedingly high HP. You could cut the HP in half and it would probably be less tedious yet still get the point across. I've got theories on how the blueside version could be improved but I want to run it first to make sure.

I've had 30 minute slug fests with Reichs and quick enjoyable relatively dynamic fights.

I'm of a firm opinion that Reichs is bugged and has Unstoppable behavior that does not work as intended sometimes.

Hero Kahn TF is quite boring (at least last mission/AV fight wise). I've been on some Kahn TFs (hero side) and was fast. Then I was on a Kahn TF and I guess we didn't have a lot of debuffing because the final fight with Reichs took like 10-20 mins or so (maybe longer, not sure)...just a big bag of HP...not fun....very tedious.

Red side is at least a little more fun because of all the ambushes (also more troublesome because of those ambushes).

A 30 minute Reichsman fight isn't really anything to complain about in my book. The rest of the TF is very quick. I like that a large portion of the TF is dedicated to a single fight.

Also, fast does not equal fun! I have had way too many teammates who think that.

Agreed, you don't need a particular team makeup for him but unless you have some decent regen debuffs (such as Rad or Traps) or a LOT of damage he is extremely tedious to fight.

It's an fun Taskforce, not everything Should be easy, I do believe we should have some lvl of an Challenge.

I find long fights very interesting actually (Reichsman, Tendaji, etc.). They often give me time to try a variety of attack chains and test which powers make the most impact on a team.

Anyways, fun is subjective. I would rather have different TFs offer difference experiences.

Come to think of it, the only thing which I really like about Kahn is the Reichsman battle.

The Reichsman battle would play out the same way if he had half the HP, it would just be a lot less tedious.

I do find the Reichsman fight to be a bit tedious too. The other day I was asking my self why I don't run this TF that much. Later that day I saw someone was running it so I join the team. Was having a lot of fun till we got to the Reichsman fight which took us around 35 mins. It was just long and after the first 15 mins I was ready for the fight to be done. Now I know why I don't run this TF that much. It just feeling like I'm beating up a big punching bag of HP, which is not fun to me.

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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction The Reichsman battle would play out the same way if he had half the HP, it would just be a lot less tedious.

I would love to see Reichsman have half the HP.

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I find the unending tide of Nazi reinforcements to be less fun, on the 5thSF. We've team wiped more often due to the fact that ambushes DONT spawn in increments (3/4, 1/2, 1/4 etc), they spawn as soon as he calls for backup. ALL of them. And they follow you to the entrance, too.

Reich's himself is just a big, dumb, sack of HP like every other AV, unique 'rank' or not.

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