Incarnates?!?

I SOOO hope that somewhere in the Incarnate system they put that as an Easter Egg.... I would laugh my *** off.

As for a god... would Murphy's Law Count?

But superheroes, sewer mutants, time travel, alien invaders from another dimension, sexy evil clowns, the magical tattooed ninja mafia, and alien werewolf nazis are all definitely not for pretend?

That was Gozer. Zuhl was one of her pets.

I dunno, for all the Spirit Bomb got hyped as being an ultra-powerful surefire fight-winner, it only actually fulfilled that expectation what, like twice? I'd rather become a Gohan Incarnate, that way I'd always know that no matter what happened or how bad things got, I'd have the ability to unlock deeply hidden powers strong enough to make everything good again. I mean, sure, every time a more powerful foe turned up, I'd have to go and unlock more hidden powers, but they'd always be there, waiting for me.

I don't believe in Zeus either, I'd still enjoy if my character were to become an Incarnate of him.

Technically, 2 out of the 4 major arcs were resolved with the spirit crutch with one setting off the events that led to the end. Gohan, in comparison, only did the job on the one remaining arc and not a whole lot in the grand scope of things.

I hope they go this route, my tech hero would be mightily dissappointed if all of a sudden he had to start believing in a "superior being" just to keep pace.

As always, anything that a NPC tells you as "fact" about your new source of power can be handwaved away as the NPC's own beliefs.

Vext, Greek God of Murphy's Law!

LEGION OF VALOR - Be a part of the Legend!

Yes. And it's "Zuul"! Don't make Manticore (I think it was Manticore who used the line once) come in here and correct you.

More like the other way around, according to the Web of Arachnos novel. People who drank from the Well became the inspiration for the Greeks' mythology. The Furies were three sisters who drank from it and became legends in their own time and began the myth.

The Well was simply a natural spring that ran under an artifact, the Box. The Box, being the basis for the Pandora myth, was of unknown origin and may or may not have been sentient. Its purpose was to collect humanity's creative energy and store it. The last people to interact with the Box before Recluse and Statesman found it had left the lid open slightly, letting some of the energy seep out. Cole and Richter threw off the lid and that sudden, massive release of energy kicked off the modern heroic age.

So going from the novel, the "divine power" from the Well was the distilled collected creative energy and drive of humanity, collected over a couple millennia. The subtext I read into it was that humanity creates their own gods and that it's us that gives them power.

The Well simply gives you a concentrated dose of the power from the Box. Statesman is Zeus because the same energy flows through him as flowed through the ancient person who came to identify himself as Zeus. The point made in the novel is that everything is cyclical. Eventually the current heroic age will fade as the Box slowly collects the energy back into itself. Super heroes will become the new myths until in the distant future someone finds the box and starts the whole thing over.

Of course, the devs are not above retconning anything. They've already started to change the story slightly with the whole "power web" thing and the Origin of Power stuff.



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...makes me wonder if the Incarnate content is going to invovle something vaguely Lovecraft-ish - like if we're getting divine powers, maybe we have to fight evil gods or their semi-divine servants?

But she was a nimble little mynx in bubbles.

I think you are reading too much into it. "End Game" is a loaded term. I mean, in other MMOs, how much "End Game" content became "late-mid game" content when they raised the level cap or expandend in another direction. End Game sounds like you're giving up.

Regarding Incarnate content, I'm game for whatever they have up their sleeves. I have many 50s who've been 50 for years, and I'm dying for something to do with them.


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He is Manifest!

The One True Choice for all proper Heroes.

Yarrrrr! May you be touched by His Noodly Goodness. Ramen.

Yeah True but, for all no These Incarnate Gods aren't really Gods at all but Aliens or Interdimesional Beings. I mean this is a Scifi Fanasty Game After all and anything is Possible if I have to pick i Guess I pick Either Thor or The Dragon God Bahamut.

There's already been an explanation in the thread for how the Well of the Furies works - I'm sure it will satisfy you. Basically, it boils down to "those characters like Zeus and Athena that people called 'gods' were actually just powerful super-beings just like Statesman, because they drank from the well too."

Either way, all I'm sayin' is that with all this other imaginary stuff clearly existing in this universe, why not gods as well? In fact, if you do some TFs in the Shadow Shard, you can literally punch one in the face... so it looks like even though gods aren't real in OUR world, they're real in the game world. It doesn't mean anything, it's just a work of fiction. I don't believe in the kind of thing most people would call a "god" either, but that doesn't kill my suspension of disbelief any more than all sorts of other things I don't believe in, like vampires or telekinesis.

Just reading what you typed GG...and was thinking back to the CoH issue where all the heroes lost their powers and went through a portal that was under the belly of Atlas, to talk to a god(forgets which one) to get their powers back. It wouldn't be a far fetched idea to have this realm to be open all the time for the ones that have Incarnate powers to access.

What a way to test the powers given to you in a realm where gods/deities dwell! Just a thought I remebered when I read your post!

Prometheus, who was a Titan.


Back before Ouroboros we were discussing Incarnates and the same idea for an Incarnates only realm came up. With Ouroboros and the Midnight club, I think such a zone would make less of an impact now.

Another idea was Incarnate/Divine Inspirations. These would be very potent inspirations that would last 30 minutes or so. They would only drop for Incarnates, couldn't be bought or sold by anyone, but could be given to a regular character by an Incarnate.


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Ty J_B! I couldn't remember which one it was. not a god! but a Titan...eh! I have to get my books and re-read that. Kinda makes you wonder though...what the mission types would be like since Incarnate powers are gonna make your lvl 50 that much more powerful!

I'm guessing a lot of gimmick fights like we've seen recently with the STF, ITF, and the i15 TF/SF. I expect to be forced to team because most engame content tends to shun soloists and I wouldn't be surprised if there's grinding involved.


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