A New Take on Fitness

This is a collective idea, most credit goes to @Athicus

Lets face it, almost every archtype at some point or another takes the Fitness pool, or more specifically Stamina. Only VEATs have a version of Stamina as an inherent and they STILL need Stamina. A thought arose to change the pool into auto powers that unlock at certain levels, similar to Rest and Ninja Run (although not quite as soon). Similar to the Cape and Aura missions, although more of a solo-only trial or gauntlet that one must go through. It makes sense, after all when faced with overwealming odds, one steps back for additional training to make one's self tougher. Perhaps it could have a badge associated with it as well or something. Thoughts?

Even if some parts need to be unlocked at certain levels, similar to the VEAT and HEAT arcs. Perhaps sending them back to Mercy to see Kalinda or to Galaxy to speak with BaBs. I could almost hear Kalinda talking down to you, going through your personnel files and saying something along the lines of 'Underwealming Performance' or 'In dire need of training' even.

Edit: oops, guess i missed /Regen's Quick Recovery

If you make end management so trivial by gifting powerful recovery, why even have the end bar ?

One of the Devs (I forget whom but I think Posi) once said that it is more likely that endurance would be removed outright than stamina made inherent.

Energize
Energy Drain
Stygian Circle
Accelerated Metabolism

The list goes on and on an on and on for powers that buff recovery or reduce end cost or refill endurance.

I still take stamina on Every Single Character.

But I don't want fitness changed. Every character I make gets 3 power pool choices and an APP/PPP. Works out fine.

The "Stamina as an Inherent" argument (or variations such as this) have reoccurred for years, but the devs have continually stated that Fitness powers will never be given away. The power choices and slots spent on Fitness are the sacrifices a player can make to have characters with better Regeneration and Recovery. In other words, if you want the benefits, be prepared to pay the cost in a character's build.

Aside: Stygian Circle. My WS has never needed Stamina, at least on his primary build.

Orrrr... You could 1-3 slot your powers for End Reduction and find out you don't need stamina at all... >.>

-Rachel-

I think there are other pools that need more help and better reasons to take them than does Fitness need to be given a lesser reason to take it, by making it available to all. *waves at the Presence Pool*

The second they try to tie it into completing content, people will work on ways to circumvent whatever time/difficulty constraints they put into that content. In other words, you're going from a fixed cost that's the same for almost everyone, to a system that can be gamed by players with more or less resources available to them.

On it's face, you're trying to make things "more fair" but they will end up being less fair, for the same reasons that AE exploits are hunted down and squashed by the developers. Content design isn't at the point where the system is flexible enough to create something that is equally challenging for all builds.

Fiiiiiiine.. remind me not to have any more ideas

I'll still argue for making stamina less of a 'Need' power.
"Everyone, bar WS's, /regen, /willpower and those with end+ powers take it"
...Soooo, doesn't that kinda suggest all it's really doing is taking up 3 power slots and a pool pick? Yes, you can skip it, even on builds that dont get a +end power. And you pay for it by having to heavily slot for end red, and still being far more anaemic than builds that take it. It's like skipping out on a lung in real life, or something (tad extreme, but still)

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Radiation Emission, Cold Domination, Kinetics and Empathy all have AoE or otherwise readily available +recovery or +end powers. Pain Domination also has +recovery but it's limited to a single target most of the time. -Res and +Dam can also be considered friendly to your DPE, so you can attack less and still be efficient.

Stamina 3 slotted with lvl 50 end mod IO's +49.8% recovery. Numina and miricle unique 25% recovery. getting an extra 25% recovery from sets it isnt hard to match what stamina will give you not to mention some of the sets give +end. 50% recovery of 100 endurance is less than 50% recovery from a higher endurance total obtained through sets and accolades so no you don't have to take stamina.