i17.. Did some1 say 'Content'?
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Posted on: 2010-02-25 21:50 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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CO subscribers who're angry we're getting so many cookies and they're not maybe?
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Originally Posted by Gaelic_Reign
What IS it with all the "doom trolling" going on lately? It's been old since i4.....and for you 5 yr vets, probably since i1.
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roflomg he's right. |
Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
My "Smiley Face/Relevance Inversion Theory" is still holding water.
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New players are unlikely to run straight to the nearest farm, and if they do they're probably beyond hope anyway.|
Originally Posted by overkillGA
Epics unlocked at lvl 20. Lvl 20 can be reached in a few hours on a farm map, so if people (new players) were that desperate to get one they could find themselves with 1 on the day of purchasing the game.
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I don't think any of this is catering to the 'noobs'. In my experience most of the calls to revamp/streamline old content comes from jaded vets who've played it over and over again, rather than newbies to whom everything is shiny and new. This is no different.
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some1 didn't say anything. We're getting possibly the worst task force in the game repolished to make it more bearable, and we're getting two story arcs on both sides of the game with a new enemy.| i17.. Did some1 say 'Content'? |
Jeez, I swear 'content' is becoming a word that people just use for the sake of it now. Even in an issue where we're getting content people think that by announcing that we need more, they're going to get everyone to jump on their bandwagon.
Yes, that was me.
'I am completely content with Issue 17.'
Panic over, go back to playing everyone.
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Originally Posted by Lady_Sadako
Yes, that was me.
'I am completely content with Issue 17.' Panic over, go back to playing everyone. |
Thank goodness!
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
Oooo look folks another sockpuppet trolling along....why bother responding ignore the moron and it'll pass like a turd in a sewer line.
I find it amusing when people in general complain about free content updates, QOL updates, and bug fixes like we get them in our issues.
Free, people.
- Posi TF split into two distinct halves, and updated to reflect the changes in Faultline! YAY!
- New Strikeforce for villains, YAY!
- EATs and all their content unlocked at 20! YAY!
- Completely revamped auction house interface! YAY!
- Emailing influence and drops to your anyone in your faction by global handle! YAY!
- Ultra mode! YAY!
- Animated tails, separate from belts! YAY!
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
While I would love to take a +1 here and move along, I just can't help but be drawn in by such a convincing and selfless argument.
Well Said, overkillGA, Well Said!!
By well said, of course I am refering to your statement of "a bird's head could be a monstrous one" I have absolutely no doubts in this matter, as a previous owner of several birds. My imagination has run wild on me several times, when in fact I have noticed a boggling similarity to such a monstrous beast and a cockatiel.
However good your intentions here may be, I must implore you to firmly stand your ground, and fuel this debacle with all of your might. Take your time, gather your thoughts carefully and pelt us with the disappointed failings of your perspectives. I beg of you to inform us more deeply of your concerns, so we may make them our own.
/signed for Monstrous Bird Heads and useless backpacks!
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"How dare you! This wasn't the kind of Free I was asking for!"
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Originally Posted by TyrantMikey
I find it amusing when people in general complain about free content updates, QOL updates, and bug fixes like we get them in our issues.
Free, people.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. |
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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf
... "a bird's head could be a monstrous one" I have absolutely no doubts in this matter ...
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Me neither.
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
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Personally I'm quite pleased by I17 - I wasn't expecting anything much 'til GR.|
Originally Posted by overkillGA
Let down with i17 content?
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| Positron tf halved |
(iirc, they couldn't get 3 TFs from a single contact working so merged them into one)
Changing it is a darn good idea - it's not a good introduction to TFs for new players (and I've seen many experienced players swear 'never again' at Posi)... Though, tbh I'd love the current one to exist alongside a rework - for old times sake if nothing else.
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| Epics available at lvl 20 |
One reason the VEATs took so long was probably as (at last figures I saw, from a hazy memory) it was only 10-15% of players who had a Kheld. If so few players played EATs it wasn't really worthwhile developing more...
But if a lvl20 unlock for EATs leads to more EAT characters then developing new EATs with similar unlocks (and possibly new existing-EAT content) becomes a more easily justifiable development option.
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| Do you get the feeling only the gripes of a noob majority are being listened to? After all they do make up the majority, with most veterans leaving the game. |
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| (Yes, a bird's head could be a monstrous one). |
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| Movable hair, or flowing hair. Not a favourite of mine but it was highly requested. |
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| I will continue this thread later |
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Incase the OP needs glasses, there IS content, as in Dev Created mission, in I17
2 new gizmondo's Hero side and the same number Villain side. Really, read the announcements again.
And yes, polished Positron TF, which makes it new to me, because the current incarnation is an abomination.
Ah, here we go;
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New Story Arcs: Issue 17: Dark Mirror features two new Hero and two new Villain story arcs for levels 20-30. Each of these story arcs has four missions, and the story arcs highlight the Dark Mirror's sinister new enemy. Acquire first Hero story arc in Talos Island, and the first Villain arc in Sharkhead Isle. Silver Mantis Strike Force Update: The Silver Mantis Strike Force will now be available to all Villains, not just supergroups. You now can access the Silver Mantis Strike Force via Silver Mantis, located in Sharkhead Isle. You can also run this Task Force from your supergroup computer. Positron Task Force Update: This Task Force has been split into two halves and dramatically upgraded and updated to ramp up the fun. The final battle of the Task Force takes place in the Faultline Dam and incorporates the new Dark Mirror enemy. |
/walks off
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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My only gripe is the lvl 20 for EATs and VEATs thing. I dont think its fair to those who did get to 50 for them. Plus with all the changes to xp lately its no where near hard to get to 50 like it was back in the day. I dont see why this change had to happen. To me this is like giving folks the Task Force Commander accolade without doing the upper level TFs. I am not going to comment on the Posi TF changes until I see it for myself exactly what they did. Personally my fear is that they are going to gut the merits for the whole thing and still make it not worth running even as 2 seperate tfs.
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I don't think it's fair that people who joined the forum earlier have higher post counts, but oh well. It never took skill or effort to get to 50, just the ability to numb yourself long enough during the grind. The developers have always stood by their opinion level 50 for the EATs was a mistake, and I'm glad they're correcting it.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
I dont think its fair to those who did get to 50 for them.
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OH my another Generic Rant Thread!!! I love these games!!!|
Originally Posted by overkillGA
Let down with i17 content? It's not a new sensation.
Positron tf halved, Epics available at lvl 20.. Do you get the feeling only the gripes of a noob majority are being listened to? After all they do make up the majority, with most veterans leaving the game. Positon, a tf that can be completed in 3 hours by a team with at least 1 player who knows the ins and outs, halved.. Epics unlocked at lvl 20. Lvl 20 can be reached in a few hours on a farm map, so if people (new players) were that desperate to get one they could find themselves with 1 on the day of purchasing the game. In the time I wasted on Jay's costume thread I think movable tails was umpteenth in the list of wants. Way behind the likes of.. Monstrous faces, that didn't all look like rabid hedgehogs (Yes, a bird's head could be a monstrous one). A back pack - that did NOTHING!!! but was there to see, at the time dismissed because of animation problems - well there's several in game now, not to mention the purchasable one, plus wings, which all cope rather well. Movable hair, or flowing hair. Not a favourite of mine but it was highly requested. On top of this there has once again been a failure to allow villains access to the shadow shard or a lvl 50 contact with unlimited, non-timed missions. I understand we all got excited with the content for both heroes and villains to play together, but CoV has definitely suffered neglect over recent issues content-wise. 5 minutes in the MA could solve this problem, then we move it on to the live server... I will continue this thread later, but for now I ask you to add to the list of missed opportunities. |
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Hmmm oh perfect!!!
Bash towards the OP for low post count.
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You are playing the game wrong.
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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy
It never took skill or effort to get to 50, just the ability to numb yourself long enough during the grind.
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I remember having to gain experience to get to level 50. Did they change this at some point, or...?
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Originally Posted by Starsman
You are playing the game wrong.
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You are a part of the noob majority.|
Originally Posted by overkillGA
Do you get the feeling only the gripes of a noob majority are being listened to?
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2006. Pffft.
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$15/month isn't free.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
"How dare you! This wasn't the kind of Free I was asking for!"
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
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False, Going Rogue wont have an issue attached. I17 is what would had come with GR and perhaps a bit more.|
Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
Issue 18 is coming with Going Rogue.
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It's very likely they did this based on previous experience with I6/CoV.
Despite the issue giving players new (pvp) zones many complained that there was no actual issue 6 and it was just the scraps of the expansion.
By launching this ahead they make sure there is a proper I17 and after GR is released, few months down the road, we get I18. For all I can tell, everything in GR that was not added to I17 will be exclusive for GR buyers.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I remember having fun while gaining said experience. You missed that point.
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Originally Posted by poptart_fairy
I remember having to gain experience to get to level 50. Did they change this at some point, or...?
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Whereas you're apparently not even on the same continent as it. I never said I wasn't having fun, I said I numbed myself to the grind. Subtle differences, exist they do.
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Originally Posted by Starsman
You missed that point.
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