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Birds have been doing it for millions of years following in the footsteps (literally) of their dinosaur ancestors...
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Not sure about mamals but do birds count?
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Birds?


BAH! You people and your facts!

I would like to posit though that MOST birds just hop around. They don't really use bipedal locomotion. All they need is the large talon at the base to keep them steady. Ostriches are a big exception, I think. How do they deal with it?

(also roadrunners)


 

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thehe. um that is one of my favorite characters of all time. so yeah not pulling me with that. I actualy dream of being ranma so yeah. Oh I have a lot of photos oh him/her and Jun Watarse. I wish I could post my favorite Jun one but then it is way to suggestive for the forums.
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And IIFC, usually if you have a stable digitigrade biped, such as a bird, the foot has an opposable toe to do the job of the heel. Also, typically the body is balanced with its center of gravity over the legs, but reclining, often with a tail for even better balance. This is more stable than our upright posture.

As Samuel said, the thigh is tucked up against the body, and allows the leg to be under the center of gravity.


 

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Do any actual bipedal animals have backwards knees in nature, though? That'd be good for reference materials, as I tend to not like how artists usually draw them as basically elongated feet and people walking on their toes. Granted, it's probably more realistic that way, but it just looks goofy to me. The much more stylised backwards legs with a shorter shin bone and vertical foot seem to look a lot more natural for some reason.

As a point of reference, check out Mass Effect's Tali'Zora.
There's this guy...

"The Arrival" and "Xavier: Regnegade Angel" are the only examples I can think of with a truly "backwards knee".

Plenty of people have made homemade or professional rigs to mimic digitigrade legs for humanoid characters.


 

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BAH! You people and your facts!

I would like to posit though that MOST birds just hop around. They don't really use bipedal locomotion. All they need is the large talon at the base to keep them steady.
As someone who has 4 Cockatiels and a Quaker Parrot in his house, the larger birds do walk instead of hop but it is much more of a waddling motion than what we think of as walking.

Very few birds have feet optimized for running and walking. Most of them are adapted for perching on branches and climbing sheer surfaces.


 

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As someone who has 4 Cockatiels and a Quaker Parrot in his house, the larger birds do walk instead of hop but it is much more of a waddling motion than what we think of as walking.

Very few birds have feet optimized for running and walking. Most of them are adapted for perching on branches and climbing sheer surfaces.
The ostrich would disagree with you, being the fastest two-legged animal on land. Even humans when sprinting tend to run on their toes or balls of their feet. There's generally not of heel-to-ground contact during a full out sprint.


 

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The ostrich would disagree with you, being the fastest two-legged animal on land. Even humans when sprinting tend to run on their toes or balls of their feet. There's generally not of heel-to-ground contact during a full out sprint.
So [Ostrich Run] will be the power from the Mutant booster pack?


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A kangaroo might be considered bipedal, though they don't exactly sprint xD

Hence all the ones I've made for the SG are Super LEAPERS! xD


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The ostrich would disagree with you, being the fastest two-legged animal on land. Even humans when sprinting tend to run on their toes or balls of their feet. There's generally not of heel-to-ground contact during a full out sprint.
Key words: very few birds. Most would trip over their own front toes if they tried to run and I've seen mine try.


 

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The ostrich would disagree with you, being the fastest two-legged animal on land. Even humans when sprinting tend to run on their toes or balls of their feet. There's generally not of heel-to-ground contact during a full out sprint.
Ostriches aren't the fastest. What about chocobos?!

Also what's the fastest two-legged animal on water?


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Ostriches aren't the fastest. What about chocobos?!

Also what's the fastest two-legged animal on water?
Probably a duck.
What, he said ON water not in.


 

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Ostriches aren't the fastest. What about chocobos?!

Also what's the fastest two-legged animal on water?
The Basilisk Lizard?

In water is a different story...


 

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The Basilisk Lizard?

In water is a different story...
I knew someone would mention that lizard.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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The Basilisk Lizard?

In water is a different story...
BABs confirms upcoming "running on water" animation...


 

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The Basilisk Lizard?

In water is a different story...
Nice find. But even though he ran across the water on 2 legs I think he's still classed as a 4 legged animal.


 

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So [Ostrich Run] will be the power from the Mutant booster pack?
That would look very disturbing! Haha






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Ostriches aren't the fastest. What about chocobos?!

Also what's the fastest two-legged animal on water?
Well, if you are going to bring up Chocobos, then Golden Chocobos, of course...


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Plenty of people have made homemade or professional rigs to mimic digitigrade legs for humanoid characters.
We now have confirmation BaBs is a furry, who else would watch that but someone with fur on the brain


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Someone animating legs like that to make the runs look right for the mutant booster maybe?


 

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Well, if you are going to bring up Chocobos, then Golden Chocobos, of course...
Naw, Teioh's black chocobo is the fastest. In fact his stats are always higher than yours no matter what! Even if you have max stamina of 999, his will be 1100-1200!


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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The Basilisk Lizard?

In water is a different story...
I see your water and raise you 2 different questions.
What is the fastest two-legged animal is space?
What is the fastest two-legged animal on space?

Oh and you beat me too it. I was going to post that too.


 

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Plenty of people have made homemade or professional rigs to mimic digitigrade legs for humanoid characters.
Well, seeing these movies, I can definitely see where you guys got the inspiration to make the digitigrade we currently have in the game, because those stilts look a lot like them. Cool, I didn't know so many people were making these

One slight point of note, though, is that the people in these movies hold their legs slightly differently than what our characters do. Their upper legs are bent forward, with their knees bent back. In our digitigrade legs, the upper leg is straight down. Of course, I realise this is most likely to avoid having to make new animations for just one single set of legs, which is why they follow regular legs so much. Still, it explains why the feet aren't vertical like I'd thought they should be, and ours are STILL better than the ones in Champions Online, which just look like someone took a T-square to your shins

By the way, the finished werewolf costume is just... Wow! This thing does NOT look like it should be able to exist and move like it does. It looks like it should be CGI or something, but to see this existing as actually real, even as a slightly cheesy costume... When I saw it turn its head to look at the camera, that startled me a bit. This is cool!


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