Animated Tails are coming

First of all, I'm pretty sure that wasn't any more realistic than any of CSI's other over-exaggerations. Secondly, you should know that MANY people enjoy furry artwork and characters without ever having any desire to take part in conventions or indeed identifying themselves with the actual characters. It's just the same way as people who enjoy playing robots in games don't dream of being robots or having sex with robots. It's just an interest.

That ought to tell you the concept and prospect is very interesting to a fair bit of people, both as a costume opportunity and as a principle matter and nod towards greater acceptance. Task forces and item mailing are great and all, but they don't inspire in the way an honestly brand new venue for character concepts does. At least not to those of us who operate primarily on inspiration and less on practical experience.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

You've seen Sorayama's work, right?
And then there's Avatar...
And all the catgirls...

Seriously: if you can't take a joke you need to get out more.

Cool gothic doll pictures though.

That particular doll is an interesting subject to examine, actually. I, myself, don't find it creepy, but rather odd, in the sense that there's just... Something about it. Not necessarily something good or bad, but something that catches my eye and makes me want to look and wonder.

To a large extent, I think it's the eyes. They are large, inquisitive and staring, yet at the same time clearly not human. What's more, they are open wider than human eyes tend to be. We keep our eyes somewhere between half to 3/4 shut most of the time outside of extreme low light conditions, so when eyes open up like this, it means something out of the ordinary is happening, which is unsettling to the subconscious mind. "Something is going on, but I don't know what, and this worries me."

The mouth is also large for the head it's placed on, which makes it both more expressive as well as more impactful. I don't know what, but a large mouth, especially on a female face, tends to unsettle people. Men, mostly, to be honest. More than anything, though, I think it's a combination of the wide, flat nose, the eye spacing and how the eyebrows trail vertically up from it. I've been told that the eyes are typically spaced one eye width apart, but this includes the bridge of the nose as well as the space between it and the eye sockets. But here, the eyes are sunk directly into recesses adjacent to the bridge of the nones, which makes it seem wider and more angular. The brow ridges, as well, overhang over the eyes with sharp edges, which makes the face look more geometric and accentuates the eyebrows even more.

The eyes are so large that there isn't enough room on the head to space them an eye apart, but because of the wide nose, they actually look like they're farther apart than they really are, which is where this stops being a human face and starts looking weird. This is also something that was present in Avatar's Na'vi, which took me probably half the movie to see past, as it really IS unsettling on first glance.

The general expression of the face is what really makes it feel creepy, though. It is inquisitive, especially with the head tilted to the left (my left) and the inhuman, unsettling eyes are focused on the viewer, which makes the doll appear to be trying to interact with you. But because it doesn't look cute enough, and so not trustworthy enough, this makes people recoil from it.

The messy hair and hap-hazard wiskers also help. It's intended to be stylish and sleek, but the hair as messy as it is creates dissonance. It's actually the same technique a lot of horror movies use to give the protagonist a zombie version of his girlfriend in a poorly-lit room, where she will sound like herself, but will walk with a slight shuffle and her clothes and hair will be messy, like it's her but it's not really her.

To quote the unknown Roman soldier: "Then I saw that this man was not a man, nor were any of those who watched from the shadowed halls."

The whiskers just add to this effect, as they look more like face piercings than they do like a cat's whiskers. On an actual cat, the face is very different from that of a man. Cats don't have lips, for one, and their upper jar actually ends with the nose and a couple of skin flabs right before the actual gums and teeth begin, with the whiskers situated right next to the nose on the skin flaps. Cats actually DO have cheeks, rather a long way backwards on their skull where their actual cheek bones are, bout above where their mouths end. And even though there are a couple of whiskers there, too (and on the chin, and in the eyebrows, but that's besides the point), that's not where the main, iconic clumps are. Humans don't have the facial feature to put whiskers on, but the closest one we have is actually the upper lip where men would have moustaches. Putting the whiskers on the cheeks of the doll just ends up making her look weird like she has piercings on her cheeks, which is actually kind of scary.

Basically, comb the hair on the thing, either relocate or remove the whiskers and reshape the nose a bit and this will look a LOT more acceptable. There's really nothing to do to fix the eyes, though. Even Jay Naylor admits that they creep him out, and he used to draw them on all of his characters. In general, though, I find that approaching these things from a logical perspective makes them look a lot less uncanny.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I'm sorry, I just seem to not have gotten the joke. My bad. Seemed to read perfectly serious to me.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

No, actually, I find the lolita style deeply unsettling considering it's a fetish inspired by a novelization of pedophilia.

However my interest used to be in the area of fashion. I didn't find it chal;lenging so I moved on to the conputer sciences. I still lmake DIY corsets and the like. It's a dying art. I;d like to keep it alive.

You might have a hard time finding satire material that's work-safe, though

How about goth, then?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

I was actively involved in the Gothic/deathrock/punk/fetish subculture for a long time. Hell, I even call myself a kinkster.

It has never stopped me from making fun of either subcultures. I laugh my *** off at southparks goth-isode because I've met people that fit those exact stereotypes.

"All non-conformists drink coffee"

Call me strange. I can laugh at my own absurdity. d;D

She does look a bit like a vamp or flapper. 1914-1920s happen to be my favorite years to draw inspiration for fashion from as it transitions from these times to film noire which...I absolutely love.

Oh but Tow. I can I can. Just depends on how you want to make fun of it. Wait a minute I just noticed I have zero furry lolita joke photos. that is so much crap. Oh wait nm everyone is addicted to neko lolitas. If I want ____ I will go get a wife, wink wink.

They depict special occasions?

look up the photo link name. look up who those characters are and then. feel dirty.

Your mistake is taking anything on a forum seriously. If you really need me to write <joke mode></joke mode> around posts, you really need to get out more.

Pretendy Fun Games, children. Pretendy Fun Games.


Tokyo: making corsets is less of a dying art than you'd think. There's a fair market for them in LARP circles, and you can dig up a few people who do it at most events.

The cultural references made me wince. The Goths I know would probably go on a killing spree if they were linked with the majority of that. Of course, in the UK, we have something of a different view of Goth and Punk cultures.

Did they add one our use one of the reserve special occasion ones.

Cause if they added nodes I'm going to start squeeing really loudly.

If I didn't take anything on any forum seriously, I'd never have a reason to visit one. Contrary to what this running joke might have me believe, plenty of people are rather very serious in a lot of occasions. If it were all just "forum games," then there'd be no point in participating.

On that note, I'm glad forum games were quarantined in their own section.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

we don't know but the point is in either case they change the MODELS, that is a HUGE step in oping the character creator more. Will it happen instantly? No but the wedge is in the door

They've always had reserve nodes they were trying to save for something awesome so if they haven't added more this is not a big event...it just means less room for expansion.

I don't larp nor do I make corsets for period garments. However I am confident the quality of my garments and corsetry is far superior. It's a dying art despite what niche circles you know that "try" to emulate.

I'd laugh at your friends for not being able to laugh at a stereotype that's funny.

And her name? Victoria Noir.

Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Word. I gots to get my magical girl on.

Thirded!

you know the sad part about that. as soon as we create cute/pretty characters. We will be labled worse then being furry. stuff like "Pedo".

The toon I am trying to get a cute lolita outfit for also has a japanse girl's blazer uniform. and no i didn't do it to turn people on i did it to try and match the real life uniforms not the perverted stuff in anime. Oh and I am not attracted to lolita outfits just some of them are cute or cool. nor am i attracted to furrys. I love animals and I love girls so why not mix the two, i don't do it to turn me on. anime females are enough for me anyways.

Eh, stupid accusations can be attached to anything. Roll an anthropomorphic animal and you'll be called "furry", roll a young child and be called "pedo", roll a well-dressed sarcastic blond Englishman and you'll be accused of having a weakness for well-dressed sarcastic blond Englishmen. Er, nevermind that last one, bad example.

The point is, don't worry what people will accuse you of, just play the characters you want to play.