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Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
Maybe when I17 comes out we might get a flood of non nekos
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A pretty decent artist who does a lot of good comic books and a lot of... Unprintable comic books, besides. I'm sure his style doesn't appeal to everyone, but he is definitely one of the better artists out there.
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Originally Posted by LISAR
Who is Fred Perry?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Real nightmares tend to be their own particular brand of scary not so much because of what they have in them, but rather because of what they DON'T - consistency. The brain typically "sees" a very tiny portion of the world at any given time, with the bulk of its mental image of its surroundings being... Well, just mental. In our waking hours, we constantly receive incoming information with which to sync up with the real world, so mistakes never build up. In a dream, you don't have that feedback, causing people, settings, locations and even basic functionalities to change from moment to moment. That's also what makes it hard to impossible to read anything - the beginning of the text changes by the time you get to the end.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I think you've got some good points in there. It's probably why certain nightmares are freakier than others. The ones where you reckognise things, places, people, but they aren't quite right. It's a bit like someone or something invading your head. Actually, thats probably a good reaction to base most peoples encounters with psychics on, in game. It'd be pretty damn unsetlling, really.
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Certain games and movies have made that kind of horror into an art form, yanking the protagonists out of their senses and placing them into a reality which cannot be predicted or relied upon. For instance, coming into a room, finding something scary and attempting to get out could cause you to find out that the room you are in actually has no doors. Not even the one you came in from. Trying to get somewhere can see you walk, but not cover any distance. Walking around a pillar can place you in a room that looks like the same one, but actually isn't. Basically, any time the environment gives you the illusion that you have your orientation about you, but constantly gives you things that "should not be" until it causes you to give up on your sense of location and direction, get lost, get confused and grow paranoid. Horror titles that manage to give the person just enough of a grasp on "reality" to keep them from throwing their hands up and changing the channel, yet never enough to be able to predict what comes next, tend to be the most unsettling. In fact, horror without gore tends to be some of the hardest, yet most rewarding types of scary stories.
Again, this applies to characters just as much as to the environment. Every time you have to depend on, or be close with, something that you cannot trust and which feels like it's just waiting for the right moment to harm you, is the basis of most instinctive fear. Whenever you can't just "back off" or "let go" from the fear that something bad is about to happen is when fear turns into panic. This applies to malevolent architecture just as much as it applies to creepy characters, as the uncanny valley covers more than just people-like things. A house that is more than just a house or a ship that is more than just a ship falls right in there, as well.
In fact, here's one of my own paranoid "uncanny valley" moments. I have a web camera, but I always keep its cap on and have it pointing at the ceiling and away from me. I have no illusions that someone could be using it to watch me, but I simply don't feel comfortable with a camera staring at me all the time. It's not a question of privacy or security, it's a question of instinct. A camera is an eye, and even when it doesn't actually do anything, having an eye look at me in my private space and time is not comfortable for me. By extension, a house with security cameras in every room that constantly track you wherever you go would be smack-dab in the middle of the uncanny valley, as it looks like a house, but not a "normal" house. And even if no-one is monitoring them, there are still cameras watching your every move. Each person's fears are different, but each can conceive of a house that would look normal but creep the hell out of them nonetheless.
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And no, theres nothing wrong with freaking out over gorgeous animation  I too was nerding out over that, given Im doing an Animation Degree atm. (I say doing one...more like flunking and spending too much time on PC and Xbox games >_> I have a weak will, ok?)And hinting at sexy is always better than simply out and out showing it. The mind is an incredibly flexible thing. |
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Be sure to share anything you end up making. Not just with the forums at large, with me in particular. I'm curious to see
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Well, theres some non-animated stuff to tide you by, until I stop sucking at using Maya and Flash
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Once again, they dev's deliver something I never realized I always wanted. Nice.
I gotta make pain. I gotta make things right. I gotta stop what's comin'. 'Least I gotta try.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
A pretty decent artist who does a lot of good comic books and a lot of... Unprintable comic books, besides. I'm sure his style doesn't appeal to everyone, but he is definitely one of the better artists out there.
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Okay, I've seen some of his more 'erotic' work but I think all that stuff is 'normal' and not 'furry' but yeah, I'm apparently innocent
Also. Decent!? Just decent? Meh, his stuff looks pretty top-notch to me (love nearly all his 'beefcake' stuff ^^) and he had some other action/fighting animations too that were as equally well done as the above example. I could only imagine the effort involved.
more erotic as in his FFXI web comic. Wink wink. Final Fantasy with epic humor and sex appeal, for the ladies and guys and the cat.
by the way has anyone started to read all the tags this has. It sums up all the furry hate and misconceptions quite nicely.
Oh I had to add my own sorry. It is the random one.
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SAM! Why do you know this stuff? >_>
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But let's try and be a little more subtle so we don't get the thread locked
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| Also. Decent!? Just decent? Meh, his stuff looks pretty top-notch to me (love nearly all his 'beefcake' stuff ^^) and he had some other action/fighting animations too that were as equally well done as the above example. I could only imagine the effort involved. |
Suffice it to say he's one of the VERY few artists whose artwork I can always spot from a mile away and who's been making great art practically for as long as I've seen it. And that's quite a while. I first spotted Gilligan's Island something like 15 years ago (yes, that would make me 10 at the time), and it was one of the best works around the time. It still remains one of the best even today, despite the much more significant proliferation of artists over the 'net.
And while his stuff isn't furry in the traditional sense that people love to hate, practically very little is furry in the traditional sense that people love to hate. That's part of the irony. He swaps between full humans and anthropomorphic humans very much free-hand, and he DOES have a lot of work which qualifies as the general genre.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
Maybe when I17 comes out we might get a flood of non nekos
Grr I hate nekos so much. Sorry it is cause there is so many of them. There oversaturated. To many cat girls for me. Need more wolves. |
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One of 6-Pregens for an A-Kon game I'm planning.
Got some more Fred Perry too:
Two of the races from one of my campaign settings:
An mid-development version of the main character of my Bystander novel:
And some of my CoH characters interacting with Fred's:
Thrythlind's Deviant Art Page
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I wish we could have that armor in CoH! Or can we and I just don't think it looks that great? Hmmm...*runs off to character creator*
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An mid-development version of the main character of my Bystander novel:
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BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
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i added tigra and cheetah...so yeah
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Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
more erotic as in his FFXI web comic. Wink wink. Final Fantasy with epic humor and sex appeal, for the ladies and guys and the cat.
by the way has anyone started to read all the tags this has. It sums up all the furry hate and misconceptions quite nicely. Oh I had to add my own sorry. It is the random one. |
AE # 67087: Journey through the Looking Glass - Save the World
LLX VirtueVerse! - Check out my crazy Toons
This is the size of group that we have balanced AVs for, 6.
-Positron 06/07/06 07:27 PM
Just to compound the effect, here is an example as to why good artwork and honest labour always trumps any alarmist fears of genre. Seriously, I know we've strayed far from the original topic, but there's one thing we have to keep in mind in terms of where this discussion is taking us - almost any genre and filed of artwork, regardless of how many people may "hate" it, has the potential for greatness when given to a good artist.
For my money, I trust BABs, Jay and their minions to be good artists and bring this specific, seemingly minor addition into the game with flying colours and much inspiration, not just as one more amazing piece of the costume creator, but as a symbol that, no matter how odd or minor our desires may be, someone's listening, taking notes and trying to do a good job. BABs in particular has taken a lot of heat for refusing to do things that don't look good, but that's kind of what makes the game so great, in my opinion - everything we get is not just "there," it's good and worth the wait.
That, in fact, is why I'm still sticking with City of Heroes despite trying Champions Online. They may (or may not) have more variety of pieces, but their artists just aren't up to the task. Despite the game's (supposedly) superior graphics, their artists dropped the ball, and so the great graphics are left not amounting to much. Cel shaders and ambient occlusion do not good visuals make, not on their own, at the very least. You need talented artists to make use of this more complicated tool kit. I thing City of Heroes is one of the relatively few games that do.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Just to compound the effect, here is an example as to why good artwork and honest labour always trumps any alarmist fears of genre. Seriously, I know we've strayed far from the original topic, but there's one thing we have to keep in mind in terms of where this discussion is taking us - almost any genre and filed of artwork, regardless of how many people may "hate" it, has the potential for greatness when given to a good artist.
For my money, I trust BABs, Jay and their minions to be good artists and bring this specific, seemingly minor addition into the game with flying colours and much inspiration, not just as one more amazing piece of the costume creator, but as a symbol that, no matter how odd or minor our desires may be, someone's listening, taking notes and trying to do a good job. BABs in particular has taken a lot of heat for refusing to do things that don't look good, but that's kind of what makes the game so great, in my opinion - everything we get is not just "there," it's good and worth the wait. That, in fact, is why I'm still sticking with City of Heroes despite trying Champions Online. They may (or may not) have more variety of pieces, but their artists just aren't up to the task. Despite the game's (supposedly) superior graphics, their artists dropped the ball, and so the great graphics are left not amounting to much. Cel shaders and ambient occlusion do not good visuals make, not on their own, at the very least. You need talented artists to make use of this more complicated tool kit. I thing City of Heroes is one of the relatively few games that do. |
Then again Jack is at the helm....
AE # 67087: Journey through the Looking Glass - Save the World
LLX VirtueVerse! - Check out my crazy Toons
This is the size of group that we have balanced AVs for, 6.
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i got a few non nekos in the various novels i've written as well...despite my deviant name (NekoLLX)
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AE # 67087: Journey through the Looking Glass - Save the World
LLX VirtueVerse! - Check out my crazy Toons
This is the size of group that we have balanced AVs for, 6.
-Positron 06/07/06 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Just to compound the effect, here is an example as to why good artwork and honest labour always trumps any alarmist fears of genre. Seriously, I know we've strayed far from the original topic, but there's one thing we have to keep in mind in terms of where this discussion is taking us - almost any genre and filed of artwork, regardless of how many people may "hate" it, has the potential for greatness when given to a good artist.
For my money, I trust BABs, Jay and their minions to be good artists and bring this specific, seemingly minor addition into the game with flying colours and much inspiration, not just as one more amazing piece of the costume creator, but as a symbol that, no matter how odd or minor our desires may be, someone's listening, taking notes and trying to do a good job. BABs in particular has taken a lot of heat for refusing to do things that don't look good, but that's kind of what makes the game so great, in my opinion - everything we get is not just "there," it's good and worth the wait. That, in fact, is why I'm still sticking with City of Heroes despite trying Champions Online. They may (or may not) have more variety of pieces, but their artists just aren't up to the task. Despite the game's (supposedly) superior graphics, their artists dropped the ball, and so the great graphics are left not amounting to much. Cel shaders and ambient occlusion do not good visuals make, not on their own, at the very least. You need talented artists to make use of this more complicated tool kit. I thing City of Heroes is one of the relatively few games that do. |
But yeah. In my opinion CoX graphics and style > Champions graphics and style. Im sure others have a different opinion, and thats more'n fair.
But the great looks really are a cornerstone part of why I love this game.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Indeed, I thoroughly trust that any tail coming out of BaBs and Jay will trump pretty much anything Champs Online can produce
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
*Grumblegrumble awesome grumblegrumble not fair grumble*
But yeah. In my opinion CoX graphics and style > Champions graphics and style. Im sure others have a different opinion, and thats more'n fair. But the great looks really are a cornerstone part of why I love this game. |
Thrythlind's Deviant Art Page
"Notice at the end, there: Arcanaville did the math and KICKED IT INTO EXISTENCE." - Ironik on the power of Arcanaville's math
can we have prehensile tails in the future? and can you make a new AT called the simian? it could be a whips/blaster/scrapper set.
http://tiny.cc/ArcaneDefenseItems
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no i just have to wait for gothic style outfits. A good gothic dress and maybe a mens suit from the time period would be great.
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Don't we have that kind of stuff right now? I admit I'm not too well-versed in what "gothic" actually stands for, but pics might help.
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Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
no i just have to wait for gothic style outfits. A good gothic dress and maybe a mens suit from the time period would be great.
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Originally Posted by OmnipotentMerlin
Okay the question here though. Is she hot cause of anthro or all the guns?
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Friggin' gunies always ruin everything with their perversion.
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Don't we have that kind of stuff right now? I admit I'm not too well-versed in what "gothic" actually stands for, but pics might help.
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Think classical vampires.
kind of what i am trying to pull off with one of my characters.
http://lolita-handbook.livejournal.com/3035.html#cutid1
yes i am trying to make one of my girl toons a lolita. but no dress out right now is anything close to it.
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Originally Posted by SDragon
Think classical vampires.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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wait wait what. damn that is good. how the heck did you get that together. nice work. though i am going more female side. oh and cute and young. cough i already have my dark kinky outfit. But then you would have to know my characters name to realize why I have my outfits in certain styles.
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Who is Fred Perry?