Discussion: Two Ways to Get Going Rogue

I am assuming that by "full retail box" he/she is referring to the complete collection that includes the item pack. If I'm wrong about that then the numbers are different (but still in favor of my suggestion).

Complete collection is $40. Prepurchase is $30. Thus total cost of both is $70.

Prepurchase is $30. Month of play is $15. Total cost is $45.

$70 - 45 = $25

I really hope people who complain about people who have valid concerns would stop complaining about people they feel are complaining even thoe they do have valid concerns.

I see little in the way of valid concern (outside of our EU mates).


Although I voiced similar concerns over a month (or two) ago:

post 124-126

I understand marketing's desire to keep as much info as possible under wraps for as long as possible (being that they now have direct and active competition as well as potential upcoming competition - wouldn't do to have them spill the beans too early only to have CO snatch up on it and implement it first).

I acknowledge that we are getting a lot of pushed up material, that may have very well been slated as GR inclusive, early - (UMode, 2 powersets, QoLs, etc) that are of more subjective value than a $10 costume/emote pack - for free

I'm seeing that they have given players an option and aren't forcing players to do anything

[and there's still a week before you have to decide - a week for them to put out more info]


--PS. I hope we're all understanding that they could've waited and released GR all at once (powersets (and corresponding betas), UMode and all) as well as how our perceptions and attitudes would've been about having little to nothing in our hands between I16 (some would say I14) and July; if they would've done so.

ive got to ask, howcome you are adding both the Complete Collections price with the Pre-Purchase price?

Remeber that the complete collection is GR, a month of time and the booster pack, the pre-purchase is GR only with the option of getting the booster pack when GR is released.

Because the poster I was responding to said they were going to buy both. My advice was to buy the prepurchase and then the item pack.

If you think the box will be available in April: Stop, do not pass go, and head back to the Original post. The box will be available in July, not April.

Ok, this is my annoyance with the original post: Going Rogue and Issue 17 are two separate things. Issue 17 will have Ultra Mode free of any extra charge beyond the regular monthly fee.

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True to a point. But purchasing the boxed package also provides updated documentation (presumably) and, more importantly, an updated install disk.

This is correct. Or make a back up of your game directory to DVD or other portable media (it can fit on a memory stick, for instance).

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Quite correct, Yogi. Some of us simply like having a physical disk on hand, as well as the physical box, and boxed "goodies". I'll acknowledge it's an entirely frivolous "want", but there it is.

Different stuff. I bought all the booster packs and will continue to do so. Because I was getting X for Y.

The choice here is:

30 bucks, no free month, early access and then another 10 bucks for the bonus pack = 40 bucks

or

40 bucks - 15 for the free month, the bonus pack, but no early access = 25 bucks

Is early access really worth it? It is for me as explained earlier, but they should give the free month for both simply because they're getting money from me SOONER if I go early pre-order.

Those waiting would still come out on top since they'll also be getting the updated DVD. EDIT: Is that disk necessary? Not at all. I keep my game installs on a separate physical drive from my OS. It took me all of 2 minutes to have CHV reloaded when I went from XP to Win7.

To make the comparison fully apples to apples, you'd need to add an extra $10 for the July item pack (assuming the item pack is priced @ $10). Your point still largely holds, but the price differential is less. As mentioned in an earlier post, though, some of us value the possession of a physical box, documentation, and up-to-date install disk. Certainly worth $15 in my books. YMMV.

Correct about point one.

Don't see the reason for point two. I know that.

This is true. But if you live in a country were the ISP companies are run by criminals (or they may as well be) that overprice their services while still having monthly download limits and you live in a house with 2 brothers who also play this game and download plenty of other stuff, every gigabyte is worth its virtual weight in gold.

As I said earlier in this very thread, having the physical updated discs is a big bonus for me even though I do keep a back up.

I've gone through 3 DVD recordable drives in less than a year and some of the discs that were burned, while they SEEMED to be just fine at the time, are now unreadable on the replacement drives. It seems that the old drives could read what they were burning just fine (until they died), but since they were apparently on their last leg, they were burning in such a way that other drives could not read the information.

Now sure, I could just download everything again from scratch, but I don't exactly have the fastest internet connection and I don't feel like taking 2 days or so to get the game when there are quicker and more reliable ways. And sure, the very next update after those discs are released means I have to download anyway, it just won't be as large a download as it would have been without those updated install discs.

So...

For me it's personal choice to have updated discs. I'm not going to complain one way or the other about the way NCSoft is selling us GoRo. They are a business and they are in business to make money. It's the consumers choice when (or if) they give their money to any business. If I was in such a rush to play Dual Pistols, I'd be pre-purchasing. Since most of my Dual Pistol ideas require me to wait until GoRo is live, I'll just be waiting until July.

It doesn't hurt that I'll get the most for my money that way either.

Point two (Ultra mode & GR) wasn't specifically directed at you. I've read the entire thread and it keeps coming up.

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Might I suggest using a 4 GB to 8 GB USB memory stick?

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Oh sure, I've always thought about using a flash drive to do that stuff... but I never remember to buy one. Just not something I use on a regular basis so it's always one of those things that's like "Oh yeah, if I had one of those it'd solve my problem." Always think about it AFTER something goes wrong.

I'd like to say I'll be going out to buy one tomorrow, but I'll likely completely forget about it before I finish writ...

Oooo, shiny!

:P

I wanted to give them my money NOW but they didn't make the option I wanted available NOW. So I'll wait.

Items no longer in the store, of clashing with items from the past (see the GW pvp pack, see unlock skills).

quick example:
https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/St...tem&item_id=40
CoX Combined edition - 14.99

https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/St...tem&item_id=38
Item pack of the CoX combined edition. 8.99

https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/St...tem&item_id=36
CoV - plain - 14.99

Combined edition comes with a free month (12.99), the goodies, and CoV.

So basicly, for the price of 14.99 you get CoV (14.99), month playtime (12.99), itempack (8.99). But ONLY if your account has no CoV yet.

So, if you have bought CoV for the old retail price (29.99) in the time of CoV release, you ge screwed for 22 euro because you were NC's 'loyal fan' and bought CoV the day it released.

You also got to play CoV for, what, 2 years or so longer?

Wh? What? Your justification for claiming NCSoft is maliciously selling items without stating what they are...is CoV, because it would be account linked two years later? Seriously?