Discussion: Two Ways to Get Going Rogue

because of our IP adress we are routed to euro version, even if we use US.ncsoft...

but juste remplace 130 with 128 in the adress of the going rogue purchase page, and you have the us version page.

i tried ordering mine but no go it says

"We're sorry, but we are unable to accept your order at this time. Please try again later or tomorrow. If you continue to have problems, you may wish to visit one of our retail partners."

im hoping this gets fixed soon

The thing is, it's not just $10 or $15, it is the simple fact that I have been playing for 63 months. Now I have gone and paid for the GR expansion (as I havee bought all the booster packs and such). but here you can have someone brand new to the game, never played it at all, get all THREE games for ten dollars more that what I paid for the expansion. They get the item pack and a free month of time. Where I have BOUGHT coh and paid the monthly fee......then I BOUGHT cov when it came out. Stop and figure this for a minute. I spent $30+ for coh when I got it, I spent $30+ for cov and now I just bought GR for another $30. Now count in all those monthly payments for not only me but for my wife as well (and buying the games as well) THEN your going to tell me that someone can spend $40 and get ALL THREE games and an item and a month of play!!!! AND I will have to spend more money to get the item pack and NOT get any more play time to boot! For the VERY first time I feel like I am being ripped off by ncsoft! Depending how they handle this will also depend on IF I keep playing the game or not. Once I have the feeling of unfairness and a company, I never deal with them again. This is the ONLY online game I play and as much as I would hate to leave it, that is just my nature.

Doing some figureing:
COH $45 (when it first came out and I bought, might have been $40 but am pretty sure it was $45)
COV $40 ( I waited a bit for a sale)
Wedding pack $10
science pack $10
Martial arts pack $10
Cyborg pack $10
Monthly fee for 61 months $915 ( I took into consideration the 2 months free for buying coh and cov)
GR $30

That comes to $1060:00 over 5+ years time!

So now you tell me why some noob to the game can spend just $40 and get an item pack and a free month for just $10 more than I spent on the expansion and get access to everything (except vet stuff) that I can and then some? Just not right......not right at all!

It isn't even the fact that they get all 3 games, but the month of free time AND the item pack! Compared to my loyality and time and money in the game and I get no free time and have to pay extra for the item pack?!?!?!? something tells me ncsoft is getting greedy and starting to find ways to put the thumb screws to us old timeres who have been their bread and butter for years.

I would suggest that they watch what they are doing here very closely. Times are hard and while (IMHO) they are the best game in town....they aren't the only one. Last thing they need is for their loyal fan base to start feeling cheated........like I am with the way this is looking at the moment.

I would suggest that those that prepurchased GR get the item pack for free (since they already pard for it basically) and let the complete buyers get the free month and all 3 games for their extra $10 paid.

While I wouldn't turn down a free month it isn't that imprtant. But to make me pay more for something that is (as I and others see it) part of something I have already paid for sems like a rip off to me. If timing is part of the problem, fine don't make them available till GR goes live, but don't punish your customers over your greed.

lrn2read before ranting.

You can get the same deal as all the evil, cheating noobs out to screw you over. Just don't pre-purchase now, but get the complete collection in July. I know I'll be doing that.

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I have 2 accounts and purchased the GR codes one right after the other, using the same card. The trick was that I used PayPal on the second one. I always do it that way when purchasing the perc packs. Hope this helps someone.

Come March 5th, I will have been playing for two years. I am always ready and willing to help new players who have come from other MMO's or who have started playing as a result of the Free Trial.

I was in AP messing around with my Defender(bet you can't guess what my secondary is :P), when someone was looking for some help with beginning missions. So I helped, and it turns out he came from WoW. He said he is truly enjoying the game, and is having "alot of fun". He asked about the booster packs, and I told them what they were(guilty as charged: I have them all like most). I gave him a big welcome and gave him about ten million influence to start his new character off. We exchanged email addresses, and I gave him the list of sites that could help him out, namely the paragon wiki and Mid's Hero/Villain Designer. I think I have secured a loyal player .

I guess what I'm trying to say is that new players having access to the all the cool stuff like the booster packs and early access to the new powersets DOESN'T BOTHER ME IN THE LEAST. I have also seen people post that the early access to VEATS and HEATS at lvl 20 is bothering them. They feel slighted. Again, who cares if new players can have access to these Epic Archetypes at 20? Let them, I say!

City of Heroes/City of Villains is a GAME. Designed for one thing: TO HAVE FUN. HELPING out new players whenever I can(information, IO creation, TF runs, etc.) is my idea of fun, and I can tell you from personal experience that by HELPING instead of HATING, the game has become so much more fun. I have developed GREAT FRIENDSHIPS on this ideal, and will continue to do so.

Thanks for listening, everyone. Now, LET'S HAVE SOME FUN!

Respectfully,

@Ik's Last Stand, Virtue
Ik-Thazai, lvl 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Mastery Defender
Hasdrabul Skaras, lvl 50 DB/DA Stalker
Nusrah al-Qasim, lvl 50 DB/DA Scrapper
Laurentian, lvl 50 Elec/Elec Brute
Takaroa, lvl 48 Rad/En/Flame Mastery Blaster
Judge McGraw, lvl 19 Dark/DP Defender
Bloodlash, lvl 32 DB/WP Brute

I know the pricing doesn't seem fair to some vets, but for the purpose of greater success of the game as a whole, doesn't the pricing need to be this way? Isn't that generally the way it is with MMOs? I know that when I bought Star Wars Galaxies two years ago, I got an F-ton of expansions right in the box, and all for a price lower than the original game came out for.

The price for someone getting in for the first time has to be substantially lower because these are new customers the game is trying to attract, who have not seen fit to play the game before, and need some massive enticements to draw them into the fold and expand the gamer base. You have to facilitate getting them hooked first.

Let's face it -- we're easy marks. CoX has to focus their benefits on the harder to get. They can make it up to vets in other ways.

The main issue is that we can't pre-purchase the complete edition, which is just nonsensical.

I'd like to give Paragon my money, but I will not waste a month's subscription time because of some harebrained marketing decision.

Honestly, it's standard practice to try and roll-up the existing game in the new expac when one is released. (We did this in GvE, and now again in Going Rogue... FFXI, as comparison, does this in every expac, as does WoW.) It's not to slight the existing fanbase, it's done to make it more accessible for new players, so they don't have to go buy (in current case, 3) different versions of the game to get it running at full force.

And remember, a lot of the numbers people're throwing around right now includes perks (which new players WILL have to buy separately) and subscription fees (which are charged for the pleasure of playing the game; of course the new players haven't paid those -- yet). $5k in 5 years also seems a bit high... but meh, I won't judge anyone's individual math skills. I know I've been playing since i6, and I'm pretty sure I haven't even hit the $1k mark in total costs (game, perks, upgrades, subscriptions) -- and yes, when I started, you had to buy CoH and CoV separately. I actually initially did it just so that I could work on my SG's base. Remember those days? >.>

So again, it comes down to exactly what I've said before (in this same thread, I think): If you feel that you want the opportunity to play DP and DS before July, go for the prepurchase. If you think several months advance play of DP and DS isn't worth that $15 (value of one month, at per-month pricing), then hold out for the complete edition, which will be in stores in July. Last I heard, those are the only perks in contention.

Sidenote: Alt, I got the prepurchase, and did not get any character slots. If this is an error or oversight, or if they go in when the game goes live still, I do not know. All I know is I currently do not have them. Does this answer your question? Possibly not. But empiric answers are all I can provide.

Alt, this is ridiculous, $15 is like 2 coffees at starbucks or something. $15 is NOT hard to come up with, especially for someone who has no debt and has no mortage payment, so seriously, stop whining already. You sound like a spoiled child to thinks he is entitled to everything. I am not saying you are one, but that you are sounding like one.

Btw, constantly quoting how much you have spent in the last 5 years carries little weight, since a rather large portion of the current player base has done so as well. It is a cost of being entertained for 30 days for less than the cost of a few drinks at a bar. Pretty damn good deal.

NCSoft is doing nothing that every other MMO doesn't do. It is standard practice to offer 30 days when people buy the boxed games, as well as to combine them after several expacs have been released for the reasons quoted earlier in this thread.

Rather than look at it as the company trying to "fleece" you, i see it as them offering us another option rather than waiting until July for those of us who really want to play with the new power sets early. now THIS is something that not many, if any, MMO's have done and i love it!

Alt_o_holic, you seem to think it's disrespectful for them to break the prices out the way they did, I happen to think it's disrespectful to ascribe the worst possible motives to them while talking about it. They're not trying to trick people. They're not trying to gouge people. They don't need the money.

However I do feel they deserve to get paid for getting work done early and letting us see and use it.

It was clear in the original announcements that there wasn't even going to be an Issue 17 this far before Going Rogue, much less early access to the 2 new powersets. If by pre-ordering I'm effectively paying for a free issue for the first time in 4 years? Then fine, it's worth it to me, even without counting Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning.

If you don't or can't afford to pay hard working people for doing extra work (and trust me, breaking out part of GR and beta testing it and publishing IS extra work), that's your choice.

But I don't think you need to try to make Paragon feel terrible for the choices they made. Not to mention looking poorly on your fellow players who made the decision to pre-purchase.

I doubt you get by on any less than I do month to month. Disability, Food Stamps, and a sweetheart deal on rent, the whole nine yards. I get my game subscription, and maybe one book/game/movie a month to keep me from going nuts staring at the walls. Yet I was happy to pay for GR early and resent being told I was stupid for giving myself a little treat that will keep me amused for the next 4 months at a minimum.

Agree with Lemur_Lad. I've no problem with the pricing. There's not a single MMORPG on the market that you can't get cheaper now than when released, or that you can't get cheaper as a package with the expansions (besides, clearly the cost of the game itself pales in comparison to the cost of the subscription over several years, yet that money is necessary for their extra development costs).

My only issue is with the lack of prepurchase of the complete package. If I'm going to get the new powersets, I want to start them in the new content. My main interest is to cross them over (desperately want a dp blaster in Rogue Isles, an MM in Paragon city...). So I have absolutely no interest in having early access to the powersets if I can't use the new content.

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