Discussion: Two Ways to Get Going Rogue
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Posted on: 2010-02-18 17:09 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Because it is digital only, there is a good chance that NCSoft makes more from the digital "basic" upgrade than the retail Complete Collection. Therefore, it is in their best interests for you to prepurchse it via them, nothing to manufacture, nothign to ship, no free month the $30 goes in their pockets nearly in its entinrty (credit charges and such notwithstanding). Buying the CC edition in a retail outlet is "really" only a gain of $25 since they "lose" a month of sub time from you, then you have to consider what the wholesale price was the retailer purchased it for plus what NC had to pay to manufacture and distribute, so the final net profit is far lower. If we digitally order the CC it still nets less than just the basic edition since they still "lose" the month of sub time ($25 take for the CC vs a $30 take for Basic).|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
No, both of them are GR the expansion. But the Complete Collection is not available for pre-order, and thus does not have access to sets early.
I still do not understand the logic behind it, myself... |
And all that is before factoring in the price of the CC Upgrade pack which is more direct profit.
Yeah, what they're doing makes sound sense on the seller side, if not on the consumer side.
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thx Memphis_Bill that helps somewhat|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
So the rundown:
COH:GR Expansion Cost - $29.99 (19.99 / £17.99) Prepurchase available: March Requires COH/COV No extra game time Only option for early access to Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning Digital ONLY. COH:GR Complete Collection Cost - $39.99 (29.99 / £26.99) Does not require an existing account (new players want this pack) Includes game time Available Digitally and Retail No "goodies" for retail preorder (like prestige sprints or arachnos helmets.) No prePURCHASE (retail can do preorders.) Available July COH:GR Complete Collection Item Pack No cost announced No game time Upgrade for COH:GR expansion Available launch day July. |
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1. when is the COH:GR Expansion available to pre-order? i keep hearing march but if march 4 is dbl weekend is that when it becomes available?
2. what is No prePURCHASE (retail can do preorders.) i've never heard of a game where you can prepurchase it preorder and put down whatever money you want on it sure
3. what is this COH:GR Complete Collection Item Pack i do i want it
4. im still waiting to see what will be in the box powersets, new zones, new storylines etc i know will be on box, still looking to see new end game on box. in regards to Digital the site where i order from i figure will have info.
sincerly yours:
Bzald of TopTen
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Would it be similar to the termination point of an upper limb coming into contact at considerable speed with the frontal area of the section above your neck?
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Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
Ok, I understand what you're doing, but I don't like it.
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@Golden Girl
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I'll get the complete package myself. $10 more, but I get a month of playtime (saving $5) and the bonus pack goodies (saving, maybe, $10 if pricing stays the same). That works for me. Paying less for the expansion only has some appeal, but honestly I don't care about getting the powersets early.
I would like to go out and repeat what's on my signature: I would really like to be able to buy this on Stardock's Impulse digital distribution system. I've been using them since they started and have been pretty darn happy with them. The more selection, the better, methinks 
Oh, and I'm fine with no extra physical goodies. I've been cleaning house and a lot of the "oh cool!" CE stuff I've collected over the years went bye-bye. I'm trying to keep my life a lot less cluttered. In-game goodies (where I'll enjoy stuff and not have to dust them) are fine by me.
This does sound needlessly confusing, to be honest. Why can't we just pre-order the complete collection? The 'upgrading' thing seems kind of pointless, especially since people won't be getting the months time with it, essentially making it cost more if you want to both pre-order and also want the complete collection.
Always remember, we were Heroes.
Wait...so let me get this straight....There is no cake available with either order, nor the related power "eat it too"?
>_>
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*run and hide from the rotten vegetables being thrown at him*
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Because perhaps those goodies (costumes etc) are connected to GR and they don't want to release those extra powers until GR is released as a finished product, after it goes through beta testing.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
No, both of them are GR the expansion. But the Complete Collection is not available for pre-order, and thus does not have access to sets early.
I still do not understand the logic behind it, myself... |
Gah, no retail in Europe - I'm not happy. I hope this changes.
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Personally I'll be going with the Prepurchase, mainly because I'd rather not wait another 4 or 5 months to roll my Dual Pistols characters on the live servers (I've been sitting on some of those names since last May...)
The complete edition will go on my secondary account at a later date, probably.
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Originally Posted by Orion_Star_EU
Gah, no retail in Europe - I'm not happy. I hope this changes.
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Originally Posted by The_Terrorizer
Wait...so let me get this straight....There is no cake available with either order, nor the related power "eat it too"?
>_> <_< *run and hide from the rotten vegetables being thrown at him* |
LOL /em throws rotten vegetables at him
sincerly yours:
Bzald of TopTen
So I can pay $30, NOT get the item pack and get dual pistols and demon summoning early. If I want the item pack in July, we're be expected the normal 5-10 bucks.
Or I can pay $25($40-15 for the month of time I won't be paying,) get an updated dvd for future reloads AND get the item pack, but have to wait several months before playing DP and DS on live.
Oooook.
Be well, people of CoH.
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If it helps, think of it this way.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
This does sound needlessly confusing, to be honest. Why can't we just pre-order the complete collection? The 'upgrading' thing seems kind of pointless, especially since people won't be getting the months time with it, essentially making it cost more if you want to both pre-order and also want the complete collection.
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This is really not that much different from a "booster pack" that costs around $15 and only gives early access to the two powersets.
They are basically saying "okay, you want to play the powersets early? Fine, that will cost you 15 bucks (maybe a little more) and there's this really convoluted way you have to buy the 'Early Powerset Booster pack'."
Assuming that the Complete Collection Pack is going to be $10 (could be wrong on that), you're paying $40 either way, but you have to choose between being able to play Pistols and Demons early or the free month. Brilliant.
If somebody you're arguing with goes off the deep end, don't follow.
Eh, who am I kidding I'll probably get the Prepurchase as well. The DP/Kin Corrupter I was playing last night was too much danged fun.
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Well, if you pre-order from retail, get the code from the store, you can also just cancel it when its time to buy and get your pre-order money back. So they just gave you something for nothing. I've pre-ordered and canceled before myself, and did that with a game for a marketing-beta (ie, that "preorder now and get into beta!" beta). I know I'm not alone in that. I'm sure it ticks of retailers, too.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
This does sound needlessly confusing, to be honest. Why can't we just pre-order the complete collection? The 'upgrading' thing seems kind of pointless, especially since people won't be getting the months time with it, essentially making it cost more if you want to both pre-order and also want the complete collection.
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If you pre-buy the expansion from NCSoft or whoever their partners are, they've got your money. You don't get the other goodies, but you get two major perks way ahead of everyone else. Some folks might well pay just for that.
What is the Item Pack? Im sure I'll end up preordering and then upgrading but some details about the IP would be cool and I'm sure would sway some people's decision
-Kult
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This is not quite right.|
Complete Edition - $40; no prepurchase but all the digital goodies, plus a free month (and possibly an updated disk), online or physical purchase Total: $40 then "minus" the $15 monthly fee = $25 value |
should be
Total $40 plus a free month ($15)= $55 value for just $40
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Which might not be a great option if they've got metered internet.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
You can download it
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
This does sound needlessly confusing, to be honest. Why can't we just pre-order the complete collection? The 'upgrading' thing seems kind of pointless, especially since people won't be getting the months time with it, essentially making it cost more if you want to both pre-order and also want the complete collection.
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This.
Anyway... my reading comprehension is failing today, but if I end up buying both versions and apply codes as necessary, will they 'stack' as the norm? I'm just concerned that one code does not cost me some benefit of another code.
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$40 minus $15 for the included month brings effective cost down to $25 since you won't have to pay for a month.
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
This is not quite right.
should be Total $40 plus a free month ($15)= $55 value for just $40 |
The option for me seems like the GR Expansion downloaded digitally from NCSoft for $29.99 USD. I was considering getting the retail version of the Complete Collection so I would have discs, manuals, whatever else is in the box. Purchasing online from a third-party and having it shipped internationally is the only way to achieve this from what I've read. It's a shame retail is limited to the US.
It's good to see that now we're getting down to brass tacks people are appraising their purchases carefully.
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You are correct. I was thinking seller side, not consumer side with my figures.
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
This is not quite right.
should be Total $40 plus a free month ($15)= $55 value for just $40 |
Let's see
Pre-order $30
plus the box in July. $40
total $70 plus a free month actual cost= $55
for me this is the toughie.
Debating on the Prepurchase, I already get access to GR Beta through the HeroCon Attendee Tier.
Regardless, I will be getting the Complete Collection.
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