Harrassment during RP
You may be able to take away the role playing dialog but you can never take away the role playing avatar(your character) or the role playing world (paragon city or RI).
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But I still disagree, as there's a vast difference between me holding an in-character conversation with someone in Pocket D, and me standing around giving someone advice on how to respec their toon through tells.
I'm not roleplaying or pretending to be anyone but me when I'm talking through tells. My avatar is just my vessel, which I am driving. Like a car. I'm not roleplaying a car when I go to the store. Unless I go "vroom vroom!"
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If you want to use a narrow definition of roleplay that would mean playing Pong means you're roleplaying as a paddle, okay.
But I still disagree, as there's a vast difference between me holding an in-character conversation with someone in Pocket D, and me standing around giving someone advice on how to respec their toon through tells. I'm not roleplaying or pretending to be anyone but me when I'm talking through tells. My avatar is just my vessel, which I am driving. Like a car. I'm not roleplaying a car when I go to the store. Unless I go "vroom vroom!" ![]() |
You can't deny nor disprove that fact.
No matter how much you type in your chatbox about real life, you are still role-playing that character in the fictional Paragon City universe.
Whether it's extremely light RP or extremely heavy RP...if your are playing this game, you are role-playing your character.
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Ok I have read this and I have to reply.
To be honest, I do get tired of the groups standing around in Pocket D spamming local chat with all this nonsense cybering, it gets filthy sometimes and my kids are in there playing even making comments like "wow, you can tell school is out".
Why don't the RPers use private chat or some channel.. why MUST they use local in those areas? I'm sorry but its so freaking annoying.. and its like 15 conversations melted into one nonsense stream.
No matter what...your role playing as a character in the fictional Paragon City universe.
You can't deny nor disprove that fact. No matter how much you type in your chatbox about real life, you are still role-playing that character in the fictional Paragon City universe. Whether it's extremely light RP or extremely heavy RP...if your are playing this game, you are role-playing your character. |
Also, you may be interested in learning about a new and evidently alien concept for you, available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
It's good reading. You learn neat things like just because you say something, it doesn't make it true. Especially when things that are said as idiotic as the things you've been saying.
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
Ok I have read this and I have to reply.
To be honest, I do get tired of the groups standing around in Pocket D spamming local chat with all this nonsense cybering, it gets filthy sometimes and my kids are in there playing even making comments like "wow, you can tell school is out". Why don't the RPers use private chat or some channel.. why MUST they use local in those areas? I'm sorry but its so freaking annoying.. and its like 15 conversations melted into one nonsense stream. |
As for the reason that RPers use local - a lot of RP centres around emotes and emoting, and since local is the channel in which emoted comments appear, that's where the rest of it appears, too. It would be nonsensical if half the conversation was on one channel and the other half in local. Further, local chat is generally considered by RPers to be "within hearing range", so if something happens outside your local range, your character basically hasn't noticed it.
Thus, to be quite honest, Local is used more by RPers than it is by non-RPers, so there's really very little reason for non-RPers to keep the channel on their chat tabs since, for most communication purposes, they tend to use broadcast and team chat.
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You know, I realize that English is likely not your first language, since by appearances you have no idea what some common terms mean, so I would suggest you step away from this thread before people mistake you for a pvp'er.
Also, you may be interested in learning about a new and evidently alien concept for you, available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic It's good reading. You learn neat things like just because you say something, it doesn't make it true. Especially when things that are said as idiotic as the things you've been saying. |
You know, I realize that English is likely not your first language, since by appearances you have no idea what some common terms mean, so I would suggest you step away from this thread before people mistake you for a pvp'er.
Also, you may be interested in learning about a new and evidently alien concept for you, available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic It's good reading. You learn neat things like just because you say something, it doesn't make it true. Especially when things that are said as idiotic as the things you've been saying. |
I believe the point that was trying to be made is that the very action of interacting with a virtual avatar, as done in MMORPG games for example, satisfies the majority of qualifications for the act of RP. That intention alone is not enough to disqualify the use of the avatar as a "role", and the act of performing the actions in the game as "play"
Like defining a power gamer vs casual gamer or Pie vs Cake it is a discussion point that, while seemingly clear to each person, is clouded with personal preference and perception.
In other words, your playing a MMORPG, therefore you are RPing and that is that..
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I am playing a virtual avatar and speaking in my own voice, therefore I am not RPing and that is that...
are both right and wrong..
Ok I have read this and I have to reply.
To be honest, I do get tired of the groups standing around in Pocket D spamming local chat with all this nonsense cybering, it gets filthy sometimes and my kids are in there playing even making comments like "wow, you can tell school is out". Why don't the RPers use private chat or some channel.. why MUST they use local in those areas? I'm sorry but its so freaking annoying.. and its like 15 conversations melted into one nonsense stream. |
Also I'm not school-age, so whilst your kids may not like RP, I do. That's more a difference of things that people enjoy, rather than some kind of social standard to which people 'must' reach and strive for.
And 'we' (a term I don't want to use as it somehow separates this into an 'us vs them' discussion) don't have to use local. In fact quite a lot of roleplayers don't. However, I've read your post several times and have drawn a personal conclusion: you feel that RP is somehow wrong and should be hidden away from sight of those that don't want to see it. Fair enough, can't argue with your personal preference.
It's very difficult to have a conversation in character with many different people unless all the people involved are in the same global channel or supergroup. As there are lots of different people and groups of people that RP together, not all at the same time and about the same thing, local is as fair a way of chatting as any other. Do you have an objection to people chatting under Atlas? Have you seen some of the obscenities on Broadcast?
And to answer another point raised - I am not talking about other people using the ski chalet to team up for the Winter Event or chatting together (and not RPing). I raised the discussion because of a particular incident of griefing which rankled me. And it was griefing. And it did rankle me. And it was to the point where I couldn't concentrate on the activity I was engaged in, even by turning off the sound.
As Grinning Spade has mentioned, I wanted to know if anything is done about these kind of harrassment cases. I do not want 'Ultimate Banhammer of DOOM' or revenge on said parties involved. I just want to know if it's worth me going to the trouble of petitioning behaviour like that.
Faced with 3 explanations for your posts, I chose the kindest of the three.
My apologies if I decided not to believe that you're trolling or suffer from some sort of intelligence deficiency.
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
I believe the point that was trying to be made is that the very action of interacting with a virtual avatar, as done in MMORPG games for example, satisfies the majority of qualifications for the act of RP. That intention alone is not enough to disqualify the use of the avatar as a "role", and the act of performing the actions in the game as "play"
Like defining a power gamer vs casual gamer or Pie vs Cake it is a discussion point that, while seemingly clear to each person, is clouded with personal preference and perception. In other words, your playing a MMORPG, therefore you are RPing and that is that.. Or I am playing a virtual avatar and speaking in my own voice, therefore I am not RPing and that is that... are both right and wrong.. |
Such a position renders the very concept of "language" or "vocabulary" moot and if done in earnest, cannot in any way be treated as serious.
I understand you're explaining it and not necessarily endorsing it, so thanks for the explanation.
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
Now, to be fair, if they'd been RPing about some strange location they'd discovered where random people kept suddenly appearing out of thin air, that might actually have been, well, almost kind of cool. Almost.
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In that other more or less super powers type game, I've seen RPers stand ON a respawn point while RPing. Every time my toon died and respawned, there they were. RPing. I was thinking, can't you guys move over about five feet? But I didn't say anything. You've all seen some form of Frankenstein movie, I'm sure, with the obligatory 'mob chases the monster' scene. That's what would have happened if I'd dared to speak up. They'd have chased me to the nearest windmill and burned it down with me inside. And when I respawned they'd have been there, again, at the respawn point. RPing.
Now, to be fair, if they'd been RPing about some strange location they'd discovered where random people kept suddenly appearing out of thin air, that might actually have been, well, almost kind of cool. Almost. Obligatory ![]() |
Otherwise, you're just fortune telling (i.e. predicting what will happen without any basis in fact).
A quick scan of quantum probability waves did in fact indicate that discretion, in that instance, was the better part of valor.
Ok I have read this and I have to reply.
To be honest, I do get tired of the groups standing around in Pocket D spamming local chat with all this nonsense cybering, it gets filthy sometimes and my kids are in there playing even making comments like "wow, you can tell school is out". Why don't the RPers use private chat or some channel.. why MUST they use local in those areas? I'm sorry but its so freaking annoying.. and its like 15 conversations melted into one nonsense stream. |
In fact, I put forth that since we're all roleplaying by the sheer fact that we're logging into the game, then the OP disrupted the player with the stone tanker's snowball fight and teleporting demonstration roleplaying session!
But srsly, lolRP in this case. By roleplaying in public instead of team or tells or channels, all you're doing is stroking your ego extra hard by MAKING SURE everyone around HAS to see it. *shakes head to self and sighs*
See what I just did there? Ya, I like to stroke my ego, too, but I don't complain about not being able to or about the fact that MY fun might be ruined if someone else doesn't like it.
Try back when you're dealing with two immature males badly roleplaying homosexual sex in the broadcast channel in Atlas Park of a non-traditional roleplay server complete with attempting to line up emotes.
As far as the person that said that "I'm always RPing when I'm playing CoX". Nope. At least not in the way you implied...
...unless you count me as RPing God himself who is controlling little tiny people from the sky. Because that's exactly how I play my characters.
I am not THEM, I am controlling them, like God. The same way that I play the Sims... right before I lock them in a room with a refrigerator and no toilet and watch them **** all over the place.
So yeah, in THAT sense, I AM roleplaying..... God.
as far as the person that said that "i'm always rping when i'm playing cox". Nope. At least not in the way you implied...
...unless you count me as rping god himself who is controlling little tiny people from the sky. Because that's exactly how i play my characters. I am not them, i am controlling them, like god. The same way that i play the sims... Right before i lock them in a room with a refrigerator and no toilet and watch them **** all over the place. :d so yeah, in that sense, i am roleplaying..... God. |
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
Tsk tsk, you know nothing of RP, I see. Allow me to elucidate for you the finer points of the roleplaying mechanism put forth for your and others' benefit in Pocket D and other public places: their characters are all a bunch of horny ***** and ****** who like to have *** and **** each other in public to get off on their exhibitionism, and they're merely "playing their characters". Just like you do when you log into the game.
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In fact, I put forth that since we're all roleplaying by the sheer fact that we're logging into the game, then the OP disrupted the player with the stone tanker's snowball fight and teleporting demonstration roleplaying session! |
But srsly, lolRP in this case. By roleplaying in public instead of team or tells or channels, all you're doing is stroking your ego extra hard by MAKING SURE everyone around HAS to see it. *shakes head to self and sighs* |
See what I just did there? Ya, I like to stroke my ego, too, but I don't complain about not being able to or about the fact that MY fun might be ruined if someone else doesn't like it. |
Try back when you're dealing with two immature males badly roleplaying homosexual sex in the broadcast channel in Atlas Park of a non-traditional roleplay server complete with attempting to line up emotes. |
Ah so you were there, listening to me chat about stuff? Ah, right. Yes, my ego needs stroking, hence why I posted on here. Silly me, I thought I'd had a grievance before starting this discussion. But it turns out I was totally wrong and being silly.
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I'm probably one of the most lolrp people you'll meet.
I think you have a legitimate grievance.
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If you haven't joined a global channel, you're not really looking for team.
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-kay.
This thread got real wierd, real fast.
This is not even really a question of 'wether you like RP or not'.
This is an issue that there was griefing/harrasment (as defined by the rules the Devs/Mods have set) and people are concerned about it, and asking here, as well as via /petition, that something be done about it.
An example;
Running missions and normal content, but somebody took away the mobs. And the exp. And the inf. And all the drops.
Or PvP, where there is one person griefing people. By having an 'I win button' that one shots everyone. Like a portable PPD/Arbiter Drone.
Yes, they sound extreme. But its effectively the same thing; it's removing the fun from something that people do for fun, being inconsiderate, rude and childish. And sorry, I know that offensive. To children, that is.
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This is not even really a question of 'wether you like RP or not'. This is an issue that there was griefing/harrasment (as defined by the rules the Devs/Mods have set) and people are concerned about it, and asking here, as well as via /petition, that something be done about it. |
Anything else is really just drama-based attention seeking. And I should know, we can smell our own.
There really is no point to the OP at all, as none of us have any power to change the situation. The OP should have just petitioned, perhaps told her friends to petition, and then moved on.
Anything else is really just drama-based attention seeking. And I should know, we can smell our own. |
Basically put...whenever you are playing this game, you are never not role-playing.