Team Etiquette: My Misconception?

If the team's doing radio/paper missions there is a zero chance of the glowy granting any special power. Doesn't matter who clicks it in that case. But I generally wait for the team leader/mission holder anyway.

If it's a contact mission, then yeah it could be a problem if someone else clicks and gains whatever prize/reward there might be. But if the mission holder doesn't warn people ahead of time, then it's their fault really.

Etiquette really depends on who you're teaming with. Not every team feels the same way and not every person on every team will agree. I find it's easiest to just ask the team I'm on instead of making assumptions about what's acceptable/the norm.

I don't assume we follow the tank or the person with the star, I ask "who are we following?"

I don't assume everyone on my team will know what I want them to do in a particular situation, so I tell them.

Easy.

A few comments. I run teams 95 percent of the time rather then joining them.

Glowies don't matter (any more). They used to back in the day, but just about all rewards were taking away from glowies due to be "abusing" stealthing missions, most notably grabbing glowies, resetting mission, etc etc. Now all the xp has been transfered to mission completion. At best, you get the occasional inspiration. I fail to see the need to slow down the team calling out and waiting for the team leader to notice/grab each glowie. My only restriction; don't grab glowies if the fighting is still heavy.

The tank isn't the team leader. The tank doesn't decide which way to go.

Don't scout/stealth unless the team (leader) agrees.

Don't move on to the next spawn until the vast majority of the first group is down.

Don't massively aggro the room "just to spice things up" unless the team agrees.

Don't expect the team to do everything you want unless you're the team leader. While your buffs are nice, they're not needed to complete the mission. Don't expect the team to gather between each spawn or for 30 seconds for you to use AM. Just apply buffs as you can between spawns and/or when the fighting is dying down. If only four members of the team gather for AM after five seconds, just fire it off and move on.

Wait until most of the team is on map before starting.

Don't spend 5 minutes leveling/marketing/selling between each mission unless the team is fine with it and/or told.

Don't spend more time chatting in global/vent/sg/coalition/whatever then you do actually playing on the team.

Don't assume that you're actually needed on the team to finish the TF and that means you can mouth off all you want and/or go in any direction on the map you want, regardless of what direction the rest of the team is going.

Don't whine that teammates who's main most powerful damage or mez powers kb's people.

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I'm curious what the thoughts are on the etiquette involved with a certain subset of the forums goers here who can solo team-sized mobs by themselves. I know the Scrapper forums typically consider it perfectly fair game to strike off on their own and kill things willy-nilly, but it seems to me at times that a team might need the Scrapper helping them more than the Scrapper needs to maximize bodies per second.

Etiquette Rule #1: The Team Leader will outline his desires and plans for a mission BEFORE anyone (A-N-Y-O-N-E) sets foot in the mission. This prevents "why did you touch my glowies?" misunderstandings.

Etiquette Rule #2: The Team Leader will look for specific confirmation from each of his prospective teammates.

Etiquette Rule #3: When bringing someone on mid-mission, the Team Leader will observe Rules 1 and 2 for the new member during the invite process.

Etiquette Rule #4: If you don't like the restrictions put on you by a Team Leader, QUIT THE TEAM AND DO SOMETHING ELSE!

Had an instance of this last night. Had a team leader who had the misfortune of pulling a bunch of Malta missions when his team was comprised of mostly lowbies. So he tried a new contact to see if he could get something else. Carnies AND Malta!

I let them know that this would be my last mission, then crashed out during the first mob. Merely confirmation that I needed to do something else.

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My main rule of etiquette on teams I lead, as long as the team has been formed to satisfaction before getting to the door, is to wait for everyone to load in the mission before starting.

As for pet peeves, if someone catches me after we've already started a mission and wants to join, I try to give them an idea of how far along we are. I appreciate the same thing in turn. For example, if you're in northern Nerva and almost done with your mission when you invite me, warn me about that so that I don't waste time traveling to the mission door and zone in for the mission to be completed 3 seconds later.

Also, within reason, listen to the leader. I remember one time when the mission objective was a glowie, and there were at least 2 mobs well within site of the glowie but solidly out of aggro range. We get the glowie, and another player starts talking about going after the remaining mobs. Leader says exit the mission. The other player started -arguing- with the rest of the TEAM that you always clear a mission. No ifs, ands, or buts. That's how it was done.

good luck D.B.B.

By-and-large, there is not etiquette in regards to completing missions. And I never ask if it is okay for me to complete a mission.
If someone is farming a mission, they should be polite enough to tell me before I accept an invite to join the team.

As far as glowies go, most of the time all you get is some small amount of xp. It isn't really that much, and it doesn't make that much of a difference in the long run or in my enjoyment of the game if someone else clicks a glowie.
If I was on a certain mission where I knew that I have the potential to get a temp power and it was my mission (and I really cared enough), I would make it clear to the team that it is my mission and there is a temp power in one of the glowies, so don't click them and to let me know where they are so I can click them.
I have never done that. I really don't care if the rest of the team clicks the glowies and/or gets the temp power.

If you are on a PuG, it is going to tend to be a bit wild.
Players tend to be a bit disorganized initially, and they may have preconceived notions about the way teams behave in general instead of figuring out what the other players can do and working to use their powers to augment the rest of the team.

In general, I tend to run "No Tanker/No Scrapper" PuGs. We do pretty good generally if people work together. The time that things tend to go wrong is when someone decides that they are a Tank (and don't have powers to cover that illusion) or automatically think there is a Tank on the team (apparently don't have their team window open), and race into a group of foes when they don't have the protection of Taunt (not that many Tanks seem to have Taunt anyway...) or their own defenses to deal with the agro.

Remember that the leader of the team has the star and they may very well have a good plan of how to get through missions with the kind of team that they have built.
Most PuGs end up just being a group of people running around until something gels -- when couple of players or the whole team start working together. When that happens, the enemies don't stand a chance.

I'd say that a good PuG team etiquette point is that you do not become the leader of a team simply because you were invited to a team....regardless if you are a tank/"can tank" or not.
The Tanker-centric team is not the only kind of team. It is not the only kind of team dynamic or team tactic that will work and/or be efficient in this game.
Tankers certainly don't become the team leader simply because they were invited to a team.

You don't need a "H3A70R" in order to defeat the enemy. H3A70Rs tend to do very little damage. You have to do damage to defeat the enemy.
There isn't always one to recruit. No reason to stand around all day looking for one or to keep complaining that there isn't a "healer" on the team.
Heals are nice, but buffs and debuffs are very powerful as well and can often compensate for not having a character with the ability to heal other players on the team.

Team tactics win out over almost any foe regardless of which ATs are on the team.
It is unfortunate that I have to be picky about the ATs that I select for a mission in order to vary my play experience by changing team dynamics. Some players are picky feeling that they have to have a tank and a "healer" on their team; many PuGs are like this.

Keeping all the enemy bunched up is not always the way to defeat them.
Stringing them out means that fewer of them are attacking your group at one time and you can defeat several as the rest are running up to catch up. Sure you can't pile on AoEs if they are stretched out and a Tank would have to Taunt a couple of times to group them once the enemy arrives (having been whittled down a bit), but I think that's better than eating floor.
Other AT's using tactics work just as well as a Tanker herding or pulling.
The point of this game is the variety of powers that are given to us. It is a shame to think that there is only one right way to play the game. You don't need to min-max in order to make a successful character or run a successful team.

I PuG pretty much all the time because I'm alt/side/server jumper. I'm a 60+ month vet and I try to play some almost every day.
I have only been on a small handful of teams where the leader wanted to click their own glowies - and they did make that clear in advance. The majority of PuGs that I have been on the motto is "If you see a glowie, click it - but help us fight any enemies that were are in combat with first".

The only teams that I have ever been on that don't complete missions were farm teams - that's the only reason to reset a mission and run it again. These team leaders tended to wait to announce that they were going to reset the mission until the mission is almost over ... and the mission tends to be a very long mission that has a very good end mission reward.
I have a right to that very good end mission reward, if I helped to complete that mission. The rude behavior at that point is on the side of the person running the team that is suddenly telling me that they are behaving in a non-standard manner once it is time to collect the reward - aka the last minute reveal that they are farmers and that they are going to reset the mission.
It is also rude to form a team, wait for players to cross zones to get to a mission, expect them to stand around while everyone assembles before going into a mission, and then, right before clicking on the door or right after going into a mission, saying that they are farming the mission and not to click the glowies or complete the mission. That's wasted my time.
If they knew they were going to be farming, they could have said so during the invite or as soon as I joined the team.
If I knew it was a farming team, I wouldn't have joined in the first place. If they said it was a farm once I had joined, I would have quit the team.
Of course, once farmers are out of the equation, I usually don't have to bother about the glowie clicking or missions ending questions; the team is trying to click glowies and complete the missions!