* The Price is Right *

Devs, if you are going to remove AE farming and the ability for characters to make massive amounts of influence then do something about the stupid prices on the markets.

I love to IO and tweak builds on my characters but the cost of the IO's even the basic ones not the Purples are getting way way too expensive.

Ok we get it, they are rare and people should have to pay more for them, however.
I suggest the following....

Have a vendor that sells all the IO's at a fixed rate,

This would mean that you could still sell IO's that are dropped, either to the vendor or to the auction house where players can try to get a bargain but the price would never rocket over the vendor price.


Could you please do something about this???
It's not fun to not be able to afford the IO's that we want for our toon, and coming from me thats rare! I have 4 accounts and make 10 million with 1 run of the BM map, so i I find it tough loads out there must be much worse.


Pls Pls do something so that everyone can enjoy the invention system.

Thoughts please? .............

it is not the dev's job to do anything about the prices on the market. and they will never put io's at a vendor for a fixed price. well, i can't say never because they do have io's at merit vendors for fixed prices. purples will just never see this. at all. also, the invention system is optional. io's are not needed to play the game. so's work just fine. oh, and fyi, the market should NEVER be used as a store. it was not meant for that. of course if that is the only way you(generic) use the market, and don't sell your drops to make money, then there is nothing anyone can say to help. not saying that is how YOU use the market, just how people that come to complain about the prices use the market.

they already have done something about the io's, other then the ultra rare purples, to make them available at a fixed price, or did you miss that part of what i said? they made everything from common io recipes to rare recipes purchasable with merits. in fact they have 2 ways to come up with the io's you want. they added tickets when they added the AE. 2 ways to get your io's without having to rely on the market. they never will put purples in there because they are suppossed to be ultra rare and hard to come by.

you also missed the (generic) after the you in my next to last sentence. i knew you were going to take that personally hence why i put the (generic), meaning anyone, after the you.

There are like 34,569 threads with this exact topic. Some with great explanations on how you can Benefit from the high prices.

Check them out.

AE farming is still very possible and almost as fast as it used to be ; even in I15 though it was never the best way to make money, farming normal maps with fillers was and is still much better.

Both options are of course not as efficient as playing the market, unless you farm for a few hours or more daily.

I didn't read the rest of the OP as, starting on a flawed premise, it can't end up well.

Not everyone can enjoy the invention system because some have unreasonable expectations.

But yes, I think the devs SHOULD make an inventions' store. They can sell everything for 2 billion inf a recipe/salvage.

Since I made my inf playing the game normally and can buy what I want though I sometimes have had to save up for it for a week or so any one can enjoy the invention system if they check their assumptions at the door and just play the game.

You're here. The song's in your head. Give in!

you only make 10 million a run? Guess what, you can still farm AE for tickets and sell those drops for 10-100 million a run sometimes.

Farming bosses for influence is highly inefficent anyway, just use custom mobs set to standard or extreme and add in a rez power - vola plenty of ticket drops to farm and subsequently sell the recipes you roll.

Also high prices means you can also sell at high prices which makes you influence as well.

My $.02...

I agree with the OP about wanting a store that sells everything (except purples). Now, before the "Ebil Marketeers" get all perked up, I already know there is a merit vendor who sells everything. I know the market sells everything. I know I am tired of hearing about buyers setting the prices. Of course they set the prices, but some sellers set the prices too. When you log in and you get ready to buy something and you see 5 sales all at the same price and they seem somewhat inflated, *ALERT*, seller generated price. How do I know that? I have been fighting the forces of "Ebil" since IO's came out.

Basically, the OP wants the same thing I do. I want a place I can go pay INFLUENCE for whatever I want. Moreover, I don't want to be involved in the MARKET. I have wasted too much time crafting and selling and flipping and the like to want to do it anymore. I do just enough of it to make my money and buy what I want. I buy it NAO, so yes, I am one of "those" guys. Spare me the lectures on patience.

Here is my current situation...

I am standing in Cap Au and I have 300mil in my pocket. There isn't a usable Gaussians End/Rech for sale at my level (recipe or enh...I am a lvl 39 brute). I ask my coalies if they have one in a character or in their recipe bag, a couple look, no luck. Another coalie thought maybe they had enough merits to buy it, no luck. So now I can put out a bunch of bids and hope for the best, or I can respec out of that last spot and wait till lvl 50 for it. I did that. I really didn't think that doing the merit equivilent of 9 ITF's was worth the 2.5 defense to all positions I was going to get. The funny thing is, this IO is readily available hero side. However, that is a whole other debate.

This issue is very touchy and I feel for the parties on both sides. Many of the "Ebil" folks have helped me learn how to make money for my characters and I have no issues with any of them. I actually thank them for their analysis and details they provide. However, there is another side of the fence and folks should try to offer another solution. I realize that the very second an influence consuming vendor who sells everything lands in Paragon, the Market is toast. My solution is the ability to exchange influence for merits because that would solve my problem directly without affecting anyone. It is essentially what I was going to do with a certain "Ebil" SG mate, but he didn't have quite enough merits. My offer was 90 million for 220 merits. That is just a shade under 410,000 per merit. Seems like a fair trade to me. I get what I want and another player gets something too.

See, it can be done. No harm, no foul. Just let the merit vendor make the conversion at an established rate and BAM...new stuff.

I don't see any threat to the market. You are going to see the same ups and downs as the market currently goes through if you added this channel. If swellguy is right and the prices were 100mil, that is a pretty good deterrent for 90% of the population to use sparingly. Just my opinion.