Stone Armor - Granite Armor


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For the sake of the comic book in my head, Granite armor has looked more like your toon turning into a statue version of itself. Much like the statues that we find around Paragon.
If you could do this, might not be so bad Definately do NOT just paste a few slabs of Granite over the regular 'tume and call it Granite Armor; to me, that would be aesthetically silly and logically lame.

I certainly agree with the folks who enjoy Granite making you the lumbering pile of destruction, but I can also sympathize with my female gamebuds who want something a little more "feminine."

Could we get some artist's renderings or some such before the change comes down the pike ? Would it go to test first (I hope ! LOL) ? I'd like to see more before throwing a yay or nay out there, but if it makes "Stoners" more palatable to female players, and solves playability issues, sounds like win


 

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I love my granite tanker...
I made her completely based on the concept of being a little girl who turns into a massive armor.

Now if the character isn't massive and keep tiny and just with overlay of rocks, it would be far enough if the character can jump... and then they will add more penalities or reduce the bonuses, and then stone wouldn't be like it was now.

Bleh.. I am attached to my granite >.<


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So what's up about Granite actually , BaB ?
shall we see any changes to granit soon or not?
(sorry about my cheesy english)


 

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I love my granite tanker...
I made her completely based on the concept of being a little girl who turns into a massive armor.

Now if the character isn't massive and keep tiny and just with overlay of rocks, it would be far enough if the character can jump... and then they will add more penalities or reduce the bonuses, and then stone wouldn't be like it was now.

Bleh.. I am attached to my granite >.<
Stone is seriously offputting. At least for me. Was entertaining the idea of a stone tank, or brute, right until I fired up Mids, and remembered just why I deleted the last two I tried to make.
It's really, really horrible.

I'm sure it's fine, yes, IF you can get to 50 and be IO'd to glory. ANY AT and set can be great if they are at 50 with all the shinies.
That, and looking like a DE...eh. I'll stick to cobbling something together using Super Science size edit and big armour stuff =S

If something that can keep everyone happy(ish) can be done, all the better.
I still know BaBs will do something awesome =P


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Not too worried if the old model is gone as long there is a Halloween Custom option.
Or something else in a trial or strikeforce to go for it .

Some RPers made there toon based on the end power of stone armour.
So wouldn´t want to lose that look options

Otherside if changing VFX means nerfing the heck of granite form >.<
Something i think will happen sooner or later .
I am not sure if that will go down well .. Granite form is something like Rage for SS.
Take it away the set looks so plain , other side it needs some balancing though .


 

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So Babs... What is in the pipeline for this? Do you plan to make changes to it or did you decide against it.


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So Babs... What is in the pipeline for this? Do you plan to make changes to it or did you decide against it.
I'd like to know as well. Have you come to a conclusion yet Babs? I have the urge to make a Dual Blades/Stone Armor due to the 'cool factor' of the acrobatic and swift animations while in Granite Armor.


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The look isn't the greatest, but I love the mechanics of the set; please don't change armor stacking or anything.


 

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For what it's worth, the absolute fugliness of Granite is one of the reasons I refuse to roll a stone armor character. The fact it's got a stonking huge stack of attached debuffs is another reason () but if it wasn't a total model replace with the lame-o DE Granite monster asset I'd possibly at least consider rolling one at some point. Maybe.



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I like the way Granite Armor looks now, you got from an ok tanker to the worlds most awesome tanker and you look the part currently. Adding a few lumps of granite here and there wouldn't do it for me.

I just love seeing a large block of stone in the middle of an army of mobs, there is something about it that screams 'tank' in a way other sets don't have.


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I'm for a new granite by why not just introduce mutually exclusive branching Granite Armor vs Granite Body that way people who want customization can get and those who want the classic affect get it. Branching is already in the game.


 

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I vote keep the armor the same. I like it because it makes you easily visible to the team. When I'm tanking, it's easier to lead the team around even while teleporting since I'm so noticeable. Plus, i like the long arms and huge change in size.


 

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With power customization isn't it really a moot point? After all, an alternate colorable version could be offered, while still keeping the current as an option.


 

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While we're on the subject, could we get an alternate Rooted graphic that doesn't look like comically huge stone boots (like say an invisible option)? That's the real deal killer with me and Stone Armor.


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I have a /stone Brute at 38. He's been at 38 for three months because I dislike the set so much. I can't bring myself to reroll him because the powers fit the concept (dark/stone, named Oubliette). If changing the appearance of the tier nine fixes things for the better I'd be happy and welcoming of that and would encourage me to play him more. I echo the thoughts of many who would like to not look like a DE monster, but understand the views of those who like the look as it is.


 

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I'm fine with it as long as it still awesomesauce.


 

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I'd like to vote for the complete opposite and have granite turn us all into a big black monolithic slab, on end, like in 2001 Space Odyssey - with absolutely no mobility or attacks and all defenses/res/regen/hp/threat magnitude capped.


J/k, I like the idea inherent to current Granite that has a significant trasformation component - thats part of the penalties of such thick/great armor. I can see, tho, that the winds of change are blowing and would be accepting of change as long as the covering was total, like ice armors -- could we control the opacity?? Or could you do a version of "swap ammo" to it one option old Granite other option new??
(oh, yeah, then change Rooted, too)


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change how it looks, maybe, I'd have to see some concept art. Make it more like the other armor toggles? I want to see it implemented in game BEFORE I'd even think about voting that in. There is a gigantic chance that changing it like that would make me drop forever my first 50, first serious villain, favorite character overall. The reason I picked up stone armor was because I got SK'd up to a friends team, saw them granite up, and thought it was one of the most awesome things ever.

There are tons of other powersets where you can get awesome durability and still be able to see/customize your toon. There is only one where you explode into a giant awesome golem.
No other armor sets have toggles that have the feel of power and flavour about them as granite does. I agree with one of the earlier posters, if anything you should make the rest of stone armor more like granite, then maybe I'd run any of the other powers.

I won't quit the game if granite is changed and I don't like it, but you will be killing my absolute favorite character, I hit the cap when the cap was 40 and kept playing him without making real alts. I hit the cap at 50 when it was raised to 50, and I still played him thousands of times more than any of my other characters. I am very much against these changes without getting a VERY good idea what it will look like before the decision is made.


 

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This is one of the reasons of our love for BaBs!!!!

And Yes... Change it!!!!! Granite armor, as it is now, makes me few like rejected DE... I spend lots of time and love on my costumes... and everytime I press the "Granite Form" button I sense something crying inside of me...


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Now that i have a /stoner with granite, i can talk. =p

I'd love if you could costumize granite. If for that we lose the size change, i don't really care. (though i can understand some would) Something like ice-armor's toggles, but with the lava, stone or crystalin surface would be awesome.


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And Yes... Change it!!!!! Granite armor, as it is now, makes me few like rejected DE...
Which is why when I was making a character that was a recovered DE victim, Stone Armour was my choice. If we lost the hulking stone mass, it'd break that character concept. I hope that if it does get changed to just another overlay, it retains enough of a similarity to 'old granite' that it still fits.

However I understand how it spoils the hard work that's often put into costumes.


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I am perfectly happy with Granite as it is now.

If it could be colorized or customized, I would not mind that, but I like it the way it works right now


 

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Which is why when I was making a character that was a recovered DE victim, Stone Armour was my choice. If we lost the hulking stone mass, it'd break that character concept. I hope that if it does get changed to just another overlay, it retains enough of a similarity to 'old granite' that it still fits.

However I understand how it spoils the hard work that's often put into costumes.
I've never done a stoner myself. How hard would it be to do a pretty close approximation with a second costume slot, now that we can change size/gender with the Science pack?

Of course, switching costumes with power toggles means you'll want to macro in the change with the toggle, and then you end up getting your toggle out of sync with your costumes if you switch too much due to the costume switch timer, so...


 

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I don't mind the Granite model, but the fact that we can't color it and change the texture to match the rest of the set is a deal-killer.


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the rest of the set looks bad though.