Maybe its not teaming that people have an issue with, its you?
Seriously? Is this a joke thread?
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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There is already an incentive for teaming, besides getting to use all those powers and builds that are hard or impossible to use solo.
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This has got to be a joke thread. Costume pieces and travel powers as rewards for spending enough time on teams? Oh, baby, you'd get your teams all right. You'd get frustrated, irritated people who don't really want to team, but who feel forced to because they want those costume pieces. Sure, it might get people to team more, but it'd almost certainly not make them like it.
Me, I solo a lot. Almost all the time, in fact. So yeah, I really hate the idea of something as significant as costume pieces being team-only. It frustrates me enough that there's team-required content in the game, with costume pieces as rewards, no less. And I really don't like how long it takes to get enough Vanguard Merits for, well, anything, without joining a Rikti Ship Raid or a (team-required) Lady Gray Task Force.
Samson_Sledge, your suggestion is a big, huge step in the wrong direction, buddy.
BackAlleyBrawler: I can't facepalm this post hard enough.
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ok... i saw this thread and thought huh, seems like someone has come up with an idea to give teams a bonus for staying together longer, seems like a good idea, will stop people from getting others to join to help them do one mission or whatever. but no turns out it was just someone saying they want teaming to be impatient with EXTREME rewards. kinda reminds you of how storng and pretty teh WM/EA brutes are, anyone?
ps: dude you need to think realistically and realte to the actual game if you wanna come up with ideas that could work. You wouldn't go into a DIY shop and ask to buy the latest designer shirt from france would you. It's the same thing it has to fit in =)
Gee,i dont think that any suggestion that I,or anyone else made,plays with this crowd.Is it something to just tear down to make yourselves feel better,or something?
I think that people like you all make "Suggestion and Ideas" a gigantic joke thread.
Is it that,or do you just want to not loose your ability to save "No" ober and over and over"
..and,i suppse that,just like AE farming,(May the high one bless it)people who refuse,and not team with each other constantly,over and over,and over,is one of the things ruining this game in my opinion,and also,people who ignore each others tells for teaming is another.
..and as far as being the one that people dont like to take team invites from,Lost Ninha?I'm not really a big fan of people to begin with Ninja.There loyalties and love are like granola bars..flaky.Who cares what they think,Ninja?
What would happen if people were to say no,over and over to suggestions made in thsi thread,like they do in the game?It would pretty much be decommissioned due to lack of interest.
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And, in response, we get to tell you again that you don't get to tell us how to play. When I log on, I'm not always interested in playing with other people. sometimes I have other goals in mind, such as completing a story arc before I outlevel it, or playing the market, or working on a Architect story.|
Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
Hello all.I am here with this idea once again,for the thrid time.Players are testing my patience,and they are winning,which is why I am pleading with you o correct this problem of mine:The players of CoX have turned into nesters,not questers,and it is making me mad.
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I have made team requests properly,like players reqyest me to do,and in all that,you would expect to land a player or two,but suprisingly.... "Not right now,Thank you" "No,thank you though" "No,Im playing with my supergroup right now" "No,im getting ready to log" "Getting ready to log,actually,but thank you though" ..or they just ignore you completely....and isnt ignoring you unpolite?You know,just like those players who ask YOU to be polite and send them a sighted invite first,rather than a blind one? Hypocrites,I say. |
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I just simply say that there needs to be a major incentive to get people to team more,and play this game,rather than waste time at Pocket D,ir wherever else.The rewards could grow in time to you,just like the Veteran Badges do..for an example... First Three Months:Signature Hero and Villain Costume Parts Next Three Months:New Travel Powers ..and so on..and so on... |
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Time Limit. I know you all have been here before,so dont try to deny it. To those players who dont join up with there team,or dont respond once you invite them,you could start a clock upon this player,and if the player dosent respond or join you inside the mission in five minutes,they are automatically kicked from the team. I jsut believe that there are people out there who just join a team and do nothing to drive the team elader and his loyal members crazy. |
I just don't get this suggestion at all, and it is completely unnecessary.
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This is not the way to convince people that you have a reasonable point of view. If you're this wonderful and lovely and understanding when trying to team with people, there's no wonder why they're so eager to be your friend.|
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Look: there is already an incentive to team, and that is rate of XP. The people who want to maximize their XP gain will team with you, and in fact will rarely bother doing any missions unless they have at least six people on the team. The ones who don't care about maximum XP gain ... won't.
Read that last sentence again. There are people who don't care about maximizing their rate of XP gain. Are these the people that you want on your team?
I tend to team up with 3-4 people all the time, mostly just my friends, because our playstyle is compatible. Dave has little kids in his house; he often has to make us wait while he's putting one to bed, or feeding them dinner, or making them stop hitting each other with rocks. Joe is a nurse and is often "on call" and may have to leave the team without warning. Jon likes to stop and chat with people on IRC. Are these the people you want to team with?
You could force my buddies and me to take you on board. But you'd be miserable at our snail's pace, stop-and-go method of gaming, unmaximized builds, slow progress, frequent time outs, and rarely running at "8-man Invincible" levels. And we'd be miserable having you that is, if you're one of those "shut up and PLAY!" people who can't stand friendly banter and a slow pace.
Think about who you want to team with, and be with those guys.
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I don't think it's anything personal, it just happens that your idea is poorly thought-out and awful.|
Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
Gee,i dont think that any suggestion that I,or anyone else made,plays with this crowd.Is it something to just tear down to make yourselves feel better,or something?
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You want teams? Join a Supergroup with coalitions. Join a global channel on your server. Sending out random tells is one way to get a team, but it's far from the best way.
By the way, this?
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I have made team requests properly,like players reqyest me to do,and in all that,you would expect to land a player or two,but suprisingly.... "Not right now,Thank you" "No,thank you though" "No,Im playing with my supergroup right now" "No,im getting ready to log" "Getting ready to log,actually,but thank you though" |
Maybe you're right. This game should be all teaming, all the time. What's that, you need to go sell your drops and level? Better hurry, if you don't get back quickly enough you're going to get auto-kicked from the team. Need to respec? Better pick those powers and slot them out fast, you don't want to lose Team Veteran Rewards. The more draconian this game is about teaming, the better.
On an entirely separate note:
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First, OP, drop the attitude. Unless you *like* getting it back.
Second, I may be ignoring you because I'm logging out and have 5 seconds to go. I'm not stopping that to type a reply. I may be doing massive base editing. I may just not see your tell. I work from home, and sometimes have COH running for times there are long pauses with nothing to do - and sit inside a mission not seeing anything for an hour between those slow times.
And yes, I *am* one of those who ask for an invite first. If a polite refusal gets your panties in such a twist, too bad. Just because I ask for an invite first does not mean I'm under any obligation to accept said invitation. You don't pay my subscription, I don't have to sit for X hours a day waiting for you to show up for the "pleasure" of teaming with you. I don't have to tell my family "Sorry, can't go to dinner, just got an invite to team from someone I don't know." I may actually BE playing with my friends/SG mates - imagine that, actually telling the truth with one of the very lines you're whining about. Hell, I may just not want to team at that particular moment. I play with a variety of people - including one who has a four month old baby. Think she might, possibly, have to go AFK, log out, etc. suddenly? Oh, look, another reason to turn your invite down.
You want people to team with you? Make sure the attitude you show in game is NOT what you're showing here. Get a core group that plays at the same time, and add PUGers to that (or not.) But I'll tell ya, from what I'm reading from you right now? If I saw an invite pop up from you, it'd be a fast /ignore in return. I prefer *enjoying* my gaming time, and you're sure not sounding particularly enjoyable to team with.
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Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
I jsut believe that there are people out there who just join a team and do nothing to drive the team elader and his loyal members crazy.
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You know, recently a player asked to join my team. Not only was I not the team leader, but the team was full. And we were doing a TF. I suppose I'm a jerk for telling that player I couldn't add him/ her to the team at that moment 
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Way to over generalize. Just because no one is flocking to support your suggestion does not mean that we shoot down every suggestion.|
Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
Gee,i dont think that any suggestion that I,or anyone else made,plays with this crowd.Is it something to just tear down to make yourselves feel better,or something?
I think that people like you all make "Suggestion and Ideas" a gigantic joke thread. Is it that,or do you just want to not loose your ability to save "No" ober and over and over" ..and,i suppse that,just like AE farming,(May the high one bless it)people who refuse,and not team with each other constantly,over and over,and over,is one of the things ruining this game in my opinion,and also,people who ignore each others tells for teaming is another. ..and as far as being the one that people dont like to take team invites from,Lost Ninha?I'm not really a big fan of people to begin with Ninja.There loyalties and love are like granola bars..flaky.Who cares what they think,Ninja? What would happen if people were to say no,over and over to suggestions made in thsi thread,like they do in the game?It would pretty much be decommissioned due to lack of interest. |
Just from the first page:
Click that gives Endurance met with a lukewarm response, mostly with the caveat that they would support it as part of a new powerset.
For Fun? isnt really a suggestion, so it doesnt count.
Maybe SOME Open-World Missions has met with generally positive response, provided that some way is found to eliminate spawn camping and somebody else ninjaing your objective.
5th Side Poll at 41 has failed to gain any steam, largely due to the fact that the thread title is not truly indicative of what is in the thread. The little conversation going on in there is positive.
Veteran Reward Respec is new, and hasnt gotten any steam yet, but it will be largely supported, as it is every time the suggestion comes up.
We could do with SHAMBLE hasnt really been shot down, and has gotten some support. Most of the people in the negative are not objecting to the idea, just the feasibility of seeing it any time soon.
Post 50 powergain has met with a lukewarm response, much of which narrowing down to posting of the Dev stance on powers post 50, and wait and see what the upcoming post 50 advancement hinted at by the Devs turns out to be.
Report Reputation Abuse has met with lukewarm support, mostly because you already can do so, just not with the touch of a button. The OP has also been given lots of good advice concerning forum Reputation and its worth.
I think Ive made my case. We arent just a bunch of jerkfaces who love to shoot down good ideas. We support good ideas. We shoot down bad ones. If your idea cannot stand the harsh light of criticism, maybe it isnt a good idea after all.
Just something to think about.
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So, you want to join the Hellions? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
Sparks & Steel (level 5-20 Heroic arc)
and
So you want to join the Skulls? (level 1-14 Villainous arc)
I must politely decline the original suggestion, for reasons already given by other posters.
Yes, I solo. Yes, I turn down team invites that are given 5 minutes before I have to log off to go to work.
But I usually hide from the search window, so I won't take up the time of anyone wanting to send tells to folks who may or may not be flagged as LFT.
Hey, yeah... no body plays with me either... I hate them all! Everyone that plays this game should play when and how I want them too! If they don't then they suck.
...Sorry, but really, that's how you come off. If you invite me to a team and I am busy, I will politely tell you so... or... As Memphis does, I play and work at the same time alot and may be afk and not see your tell... How is any of that bad or wrong to you?
I have 3 accounts that I pay for. Now if you want to pay for my accounts so I can play for free, then I will run on your teams anytime you like, seriously. I'll send you the info to pay for them if it's really that horrible for you.
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Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
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No You!
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You, sir or madame, are THE MAN (erm... or WOMAN)!!!
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Oh! Can I get in on this deal? I'd love to have a second account that isn't just a trial! (plus, I really liked that trial's global name...)
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I solo. I rarely invite anyone to a team. If I join a team, it's usually because I've been invited, not vice-versa.|
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Guess that makes me a dirtbag liar.
@Roderick
I mainly play a Tanker and a MasterMind. I don't need a team.
I also play from work, which occasionally means I have to AFK right now, and teams tend not to like that.
I also don't like random groups, for two-fold reasons:
a) I'm an introvert. I find dealing with random new people tiring (not uncomfortable, just tiring). It's much more restful teaming with people I know, and team with my VG pretty much everytime we've got something going on.
b) I have low tolerance for poor grammar and chat speak. I'm old, both on- and off-line, and in my day people used proper English if they wanted respect and companionship.
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You're complaining because people are politely refusing to team with you? For valid reasons? There's no incentive in the world that will change this. When you gotta go, you gotta go.|
Originally Posted by Samson_Sledge
I have made team requests properly,like players reqyest me to do,and in all that,you would expect to land a player or two,but suprisingly....
"Not right now,Thank you" "No,thank you though" "No,Im playing with my supergroup right now" "No,im getting ready to log" "Getting ready to log,actually,but thank you though" |
Perhaps your playing schedule doesn't line up with the other players on your server. If you're trying to recruit a team after 10PM US Eastern time, you're going to get a lot of people getting ready to log.
You need to find some people who are on the same schedule as you are and join their supergroup. Actually, you just need to find one other person you like to play with and matches your schedule, and you have the nucleus of a team.
You don't need to have a full 8-man team to have fun, or to get XP. I've been on so many pickup teams where the leader wastes 20 minutes to get a full team, only to have it fall apart after one mission.
If you just play with who you've got your XP/minute will probably be better than standing around wasting time trying to fill that eighth slot.
Good gravy...and to think,i just made this thread yesterday.
i'm going to say this as nicely as i can for the 3rd time... STOP WITH THESE STUPID SUGGESTIONS ABOUT TEAMING! you have a terrible attitude and i'm sure that is what is getting to the people in game. there is absolutely no reason to have incentives for teaming in a game that doesn't force you to team. GET OVER IT.
and before i forget...
/JPOWERSTONEFISTBREWHAAMISHRANGER!!!
and if you don't get over it i will send Bruce to eat you where you sit.
This thread is an utter failure on just about every count. It starts off with an indignant, intolerant original post with an original poster who is adamant about insulting people for no reason other than because they disagree. That right there should have been the end of it, but it's compounded by an idea that is not only horrible, but is in fact a solution in search of a problem, going so far as to chastise people for refusals as polite as I've ever seen them.
The notion that people who aren't playing on a team are "wasting their time" is the height of fallacy. Though this is an MMO, just because I CAN play with other people doesn't mean I HAVE to play with other people. Furthermore, it doesn't mean I should play with other people for the sole reason of forwarding their convenience over my plans for the evening. If I want to solo, I will damn well solo and I will not be budged. If people are not happy about that and feel I'm obligated to team with them, they can go to hell.
This then feeds into the fallacy that is the offer of perks for JUST teaming without any account of what you are doing in this time. These rewards offer no incentive to team, they offer incentive for two people to form a team, go AFK in a mission and go to bed for the night, scoring 8 hours without lifting a finger. Rewards for teaming should reward the ACT of teaming, not the STATE of being on a team, because ultimately what should be encouraged is playing the game.
Finally, this is about choice. City of Heroes just happens to be a game where we all get to choose how to play and what to do with no approaches being TOO much worse than others, and with certainly no approaches being wrong. That's a good thing, and trying to force people to team is an ugly mistake. Furthermore, I firmly believe that teaming should occur because the various team members want to play with other people, NOT because they need more warm bodies. Teaming is not and should not be regarded as a faux bot match. Mandated teaming, however, is little more.
Suggestions and Ideas is a forum that requires a cool head, an open mind and, above all else, a solid idea. The illusion that you can post any random train of thought and NOT have that criticised is not real. Anyone who posts here really needs to be sure to think it through and be prepared to work WITH the detractors, not insult them for the audacity to disagree.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Hello all.I am here with this idea once again,for the thrid time.Players are testing my patience,and they are winning,which is why I am pleading with you o correct this problem of mine:The players of CoX have turned into nesters,not questers,and it is making me mad.
I have made team requests properly,like players reqyest me to do,and in all that,you would expect to land a player or two,but suprisingly....
"Not right now,Thank you"
"No,thank you though"
"No,Im playing with my supergroup right now"
"No,im getting ready to log"
"Getting ready to log,actually,but thank you though"
..or they just ignore you completely....and isnt ignoring you unpolite?You know,just like those players who ask YOU to be polite and send them a sighted invite first,rather than a blind one?
Hypocrites,I say.
I just simply say that there needs to be a major incentive to get people to team more,and play this game,rather than waste time at Pocket D,ir wherever else.The rewards could grow in time to you,just like the Veteran Badges do..for an example...
First Three Months:Signature Hero and Villain Costume Parts
Next Three Months:New Travel Powers
..and so on..and so on...
Time Limit.
I know you all have been here before,so dont try to deny it.
To those players who dont join up with there team,or dont respond once you invite them,you could start a clock upon this player,and if the player dosent respond or join you inside the mission in five minutes,they are automatically kicked from the team.
I jsut believe that there are people out there who just join a team and do nothing to drive the team elader and his loyal members crazy.
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