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Why do these kind of threads get such a huge ammount of 'my character is/does/acts'?
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^This.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise 
; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.* I believe its the fact that folks are making a point as to the fact that their character may have these uber power but are not playing them in "god mode", seems good that 99 percent of folks are of the same impression, its not the powers its the player, and thus i think this is why folks are displaying their toons / powers and motivations behind them, to prove the point that you can have a sense of immortality to a char but still keep them ...human...least thats how I see it
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2. If you say you created the world or mankind, your a jackass. I dont care if thats what legends say in his backstory, religion is a soft spot for almost everyone, even atheists, and theres difference between a creation myth and a "god" saying "thats how it happened!".
It's going to make a lot of people rather angry.
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*has been eyeing the wagon from a distance and has scraped together a few inf to gain passage at the next stop*
Gods, goddesses, mythical creatures and the like are, more often than not, cited for their powers than what they actually do on a day-to-day basis. The stories we know from either being told, Googling or *gasp* Wiki'ing them are not based on a year in the life of [insert powerful entity here]. They are stories of myth and legend which are based on grains of truth covered in the chaff and flies of hyperbole, gusto and showing off. In short, the stories are adverts for how great a particular thing is.
And it always strikes me as odd (no wait, it doesn't but I was just turning a phrase) that only a select number of Gods tend to be chosen for Superhero/villain stories: namely the ones that either represent Emotions (Aphrodite/Venus, Cupid/Eros to name two entities of love, hate, war, passion and sexuality) or the physical ideals of Man (apologies to Women and anyone interested in Equal Opportunity): Namely Hercules, Zeus, Athene/a, Mars/Ares and Thor.
No one seems to want to play as the disfigured yet ingenious Hephaestus or the vengeful/caring/nurturing/jealous Hera/Juno. Everyone wants to be a King and Wise and Strong and Beautiful.
From my memories of lapping up these stories as a child right up until the present day, the characters who stood out the most weren't the Gods: They were just petty, vengeful idiots who doled out whatever punishment they saw fit and caused the ruin of many just because of their total miscomprehension of what it is to be human.
My favourites were the ones who used a bit of brainpower to solve the convenient, Tomb-Raider-esque (yes I know TR came after, but I'm trying to be street ) riddles, traps and puzzles that were set before them. They may occasionally have been given something akin to a Holy Sword of Witch Smiting +4 by another God keen to see their rival's schemes thwarted but it was still their ingenuity can resolve that won the day. Of course, never read what happened after because it invariably involves eye-gouging, cursed first sons and miscommunication resulting in suicide by proxy but who said there had to be a happy ending?
So, God characters, in my opinion, are overrated. They are merely the ideals of a particular group of people turned flesh. That's not to say they can't be played though - just very carefully.
I love Pratchett and, in particular, the way he deals with Gods. They are blowhards. Yes, they control the 'fate' of the World. But they only exist through belief and even then that belief can become something else, causing the original God to die or become a lesser creature. And so they might send a prophet or attempt to manifest as a creature. In the Superhero world, this usually results in the God turning up as a Villain. I therefore find it hard to interact with a truly Heroic God, because my own sensibilities and thoughts about religion/spirituality (which inevitably find their way somehow into all my characters) tell me that they don't exist. Or, at least, no-ne shown me one yet which could possibly exist.
I am aware this has turned into a bit of a brainfart (!) on my part so i will end with the notion that you can be a God character who created The World - But 'The World' may have been a tiny island that needed rain for their crops to grow or perhaps didn't want the big volcano to erupt and burn everyone alive, turning them to stone..
And finally, to sort of answer the OP - read. Read up and not just books about heroes/villains/gods/monsters but other 'stuff' too. Like, y'know, real life stuff. Cults are always a good place to find out about the mentality of worshippers over the centuries and perhaps that might be the key to finding out how/why your God exists and acts the way they do.
My 2.5 billion inf.
OK, so a few people who have posted DO have god characters, and some think they're just boring to play.
I would disagree.
My character, still being quite godly, is still quite fun to play because it still fits in with OOC death penalty, you just come back from the hospital again.
There's a difference between invincibility and immortality invincibility means you can't get a scratch immortality means you can't die...but can get hurt.
Trust me, I don't want to be a godmodder, and I'm sorry if anyone sees it that way; the way I see it, he's a godly character, but isn't actually doing godmodding.
And a few have said it was acting obnoxious, well it's just who the character is, it's like saying "I can drive a car" do you think that's obnoxious? Certainly not me...
You are just explaining your properties as a human or in this case, a non-human.
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19:03:28 Son of Ares: Greetings The Phantoms
19:03:52 The Phantoms: Greetings, mortals.
19:03:59 Son of Ares: mortals?
19:04:06 The Phantoms: Yes, Mortal.
19:04:08 Son of Ares: do you know who i am?
19:04:08 Other Guy: Say wha-?
19:04:15 The Phantoms: .....No, I do not.
19:04:45 Son of Ares: then bow down, i am the son of Ares, and i am gifted at killing, maybe you will be next for your insult - Muahahaha - seriously this is just too much. Now if he had then replied, uncertainly or with just the slightest hint of 'This isn't going the way i had planned - let's try a different tract.' it might have pulled it off. Otherwise this just sounds like something out of a really bad Flash Gordon spinoff.
19:04:54 The Phantoms: I cannot die. - Way to go spreading the news. Some others may have seen this as a challenge. If they had and approached you (via tell) on the possibility of them finding out how you might be weakened, can you say in all honesty that you would have considered it and perhaps run/co-run a plot based on this?
19:05:27 The Phantoms: Mabye temporarily remain in a form of statis, but not die. - Way to go telling the World and its life partner your weakness. If I were very powerful but perhaps wanted to throw others off the scent, I wouldn't have even mentioned the fact that I can't die in the first place, let alone given away a clue as to what might happen if someone tried it. But that's just me.
19:05:37 Son of Ares: ofcourse you can, my blade was forged to sever immortallity - Godmod
19:05:37 Other Guy: What the [censored] are you on about? - Sensible reaction
19:05:39 The Phantoms: I hold respect for one who demands that sort of authority. - Hang about, two ticks ago you were the man who couldn't be killed.
19:05:55 The Phantoms: So, I do respect you, I simply assumed you were a mortal.
19:06:01 Other Guy: *Yawns* - Sensible.
19:06:17 Son of Ares: *backhands Other Guy* "Quiet" - God Mod
19:06:32 Son of Ares: Assumptions kill my friend
19:06:34 The Phantoms: ....Yes, I repsect you.
19:06:47 The Phantoms: Hmm. You make a valid point. By Aphrodite's Girdle...
19:07:07 Other Guy: Are you retarded or summit? - Bit harsh but still sensible.
19:07:20 The Phantoms: ...Are you?
19:07:41 The Phantoms: I am Me, Demon of the satanic creed.
19:08:03 The Phantoms: ....Oh, and I enjoy burning souls. - Very funny joke.
19:08:05 Son of Ares: I Am Kalliades son of Ares, Demi-God of War
19:08:15 Other Guy: Your also modest - I believe this is sarcasm
19:08:20 Son of Ares: And i enjoy pain, suffering and killing - Sounds like the kind of guy I like to... ahem. Apart from the killing bit
19:08:30 The Phantoms: Hah! Demons are not made for modesty.
19:08:34 The Phantoms: I enjoy those also.
19:08:43 Other Guy: I enjoy sex, stealing and drinking, now the introductions over oh mighty overlord, shut the [censored] up.
19:09:10 Son of Ares: but can you do it with great skill, and should we prove ourselves on Other Guy? - Attempt to GodMod
19:09:22 The Phantoms: I would enjoy that. - Condoning a God Mod
19:09:37 Son of Ares: would you mind joining me in the base?
19:09:44 Other Guy: [censored] no - Clever use of the irony of the comic book. S/He can hear what you just said.
19:09:58 The Phantoms: ....He enjoys cursing, I see.
19:11:33 The Phantoms: ...oh, and yes, Im already there.
19:11:45 Other Guy: You two are [censored] weird - Possible attempt to change the subject or politely ignore the two characters attempting to GodMod. I would have just clicked 'Ignore' by now.
19:11:52 The Phantoms: You can talk.
29-2008 19:12:27 Other Guy: I can also kick the [censored] outta smart mouths like you, I didnt sign up to take [censored] by some demi-god up his own [censored]
19:12:34 Son of Ares: i suppose it is instinct for it?
19:12:56 The Phantoms: I hate it when they complain. It makes killing them so very irritating - Which part of Heroes are not known for going around and killing things is missing from this?
19:13:35 Son of Ares: i think it is more fun, you have to work so very hard for that final scream for mercy, so satifying.... - I only hope this character is a villain
19:13:47 The Phantoms: Well, that is the good part, yes.
19:13:54 Other Guy: Do you two ever get laid? - Humour. My word he offered you both so many ways out of this.
[i]Then it degenerates a bit into a 'my willy is biger than yours' conversation which, somehow, feels slightly more 'real'.
19:15:16 Son of Ares: i could have any one, i can mind control anyone, i could force you and make it seem like you actually love me - So why the need to kill? Oh and GodMod attempt
19:15:40 Other Guy: He?, you [censored] retards havent even heard a womans voice have you?, let alone screw her, im a woman you retarded [censored]
19:16:01 The Phantoms: ......Really? you sound like a man...
19:16:12 Other Guy: More of a man than you'll ever be
19:16:37 The Phantoms: Well, Man is but a title for a puny human, is it not?
19:16:39 Son of Ares: oh come now
19:17:20 Son of Ares: Man is but a creation of my whim - Seriously?
19:17:27 Other Guy: Riiight..
19:18:02 The Phantoms: You created man?....
19:18:09 The Phantoms: I highly doubt as much.
19:18:13 Son of Ares: by accident
19:18:30 Son of Ares: along with Hades and Hephaestus, we got bored - Again this could actually be a funny joke, but surely not a serious claim?
19:18:44 The Phantoms: ....well, thats more likely. What right thinking god, would make something so worthless and insignificant. - Destroyed any chance of above being a joke
19:19:12 Other Guy: it is fun being worshipped
19:19:25 The Phantoms: ...And feared, that is rather amusing.
19:19:47 Son of Ares: feared?
19:20:00 The Phantoms: Not many exactly worship demons, do they.
19:20:05 The Phantoms: Not anymore, anyway.
19:20:18 Other Guy: Where the [censored] is Someone Else?, I aint takin' this [censored].
19:20:37 The Phantoms: Is the human always this annoying?
19:20:42 Son of Ares: Someone Else is 'mislaid in time' - GodMod
19:20:50 Other Guy: Then [censored] this
19:20:53 The Phantoms: Mislaid?...
19:21:20 Other Guy: I signed up cus' Someone Else gave me a good job offer, and pay was aight, but I aint working with retarded [censored] like you two, later, not.
19:21:31 Other Guy has quit the Super Group - Applause
19:22:00 The Phantoms: Well, that was strange.
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In short, Phantoms, people have tried really hard to offer their viewpoints on your OP. Whether you choose to take any of it on board is ultimately up to you. If you enjoy this kind of roleplay then fine, go ahead. But don't expect everyone to think it's really good or worth their while.
Also as an aside (and I've been guilty of this when I go into the D on several occasions) - Pocket D has some kind of barrier to prevent conflict. I'm never quite sure if this extends to being able to use powers if you have any (making ice cubes or causing it to Snow outside), or if a person throws a punch will they end up in a cornfield? If someone could be more proactive than me and find out for certain what the deal is, I would be grateful. Then it could be one thing that might actually be able to be applied across the board so that whenever anyone's in D, acts of violence can be dispersed by a kindly tell stating whatever the case happens to be.
Bravo AP, put so much better than I could muster the eloquence for. Give yourself something nice as a reward, and for the lulz I got.
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And a few have said it was acting obnoxious, well it's just who the character is, it's like saying "I can drive a car" do you think that's obnoxious? Certainly not me...
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the "God" chars of the veteran RPers tend to get beaten into shape to fit an acceptable slot in the comunity. They reel themselves in, so that they don't get shunned. None of them realy shout "I AM A GOD!" from the roof tops, and their powers arent flaunted.
If they dont get moulded to fit their slot in the community, they get ostrasised and laughed at. (untill they group together, and start to think that what they are doing is right. Not pointing any fingers here, but it happens)
And <applauds Artic Princess>
If this happens it tends to be 'I am a GOD!' the response is usually 'prove it...fight me in the arena and prove how much of a God you are' I can say with pretty much 100% certainty (spelling possibly incorrect) that there would be someone who can pummell the god character into submission, the current reigning Gladiators champion Freddie Femur for example or Fans own Toxic Weaver, neither of which claims to be a god, infact they use brand-own street thugs to take people out, so you weren't even pwned by another superhero...a mass of normal powered people with guns, lighter fuel, baseball bats, tire irons (gang warfare) and one strong SOB.
Nobody can claim to be a god if they were taken down by what amounts to a gang land kicking, especially a god of war.
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Ditto.
Plus, as has been said, characters who act obnoxious, overbearing and arrogant all the time tend to either end up with their own kind (Yay!) or ignored by everyone else (also Yay!). Point is, if you were in a bar and someone kept on shouting "I'm a god! I'm mightier than you puny mortal!" would you really want to strike up a conversation with them?
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Its all been said, by people better at wording it in IC and OOC terms than me.
Only character I have who even aproaches 'godly' is Arkeela, an angel. Being outside of normal time and space on earth, shes, technically, about 18, and thinks she can deal with life by reading up on it out of a book. Boy is she learning otherwise...
Powerwise, yes shes unkillable. That doesnt mean it doesnt hurt like blazes. Being forced to disincarnate, then reincarnate at a Hospital somewhere is, for her, a really messed up process. Like getting born again, and growin, all in one. Which is why she avoids it like Hell. And, only just bein carnated, shes still figuring out how her light powers really work on a plain that doesnt revolve around pure energy and belief.
Fun to play.
Gods and those who claim godhoo tend to be a bit meh. I often see 'And he/she is a demigod so cant die' in biogs. And it instantly makes me think 'Meh.'
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OK, so a few people who have posted DO have god characters, and some think they're just boring to play.
I would disagree.
My character, still being quite godly, is still quite fun to play because it still fits in with OOC death penalty, you just come back from the hospital again.
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Being charitable, that would be because your character is no different from my character Jason Caine. He can't die. He was partially created as a reaction to the fact that no matter what you do in this game, you come back from the dead. So, why not create an immortal? Ping! Jason Caine.
I suspect, though I may be wrong, that my charity is unwarranted.
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And a few have said it was acting obnoxious, well it's just who the character is, it's like saying "I can drive a car" do you think that's obnoxious? Certainly not me...
You are just explaining your properties as a human or in this case, a non-human.
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AP has catalogued your 'crimes,' however, yes, if your character is obnoxious, then that's roleplaying your character to their personality.
Now, do you honestly thing anyone else should be forced to put up with it?
The answer to that one, btw, is 'NO!' Roleplay is (or should be) consensual, and it's also perfectly within the character of a SG leader to decide that he doesn't want two obnoxious braggarts in his group and kick you. You claim it was IC, well, complaining about it and chucking you out is IC too. Most people don't like behaviour like that. They avoid it, or they incarcerate the perpetrators if they can find a reason to do so.
You reap what you sow, and you sowed the seeds of your own destruction. (It's cliched, but I like it. )
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
Posts are OOC unless noted to be IC, or in an IC thread.
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Also as an aside (and I've been guilty of this when I go into the D on several occasions) - Pocket D has some kind of barrier to prevent conflict. I'm never quite sure if this extends to being able to use powers if you have any (making ice cubes or causing it to Snow outside), or if a person throws a punch will they end up in a cornfield? If someone could be more proactive than me and find out for certain what the deal is, I would be grateful. Then it could be one thing that might actually be able to be applied across the board so that whenever anyone's in D, acts of violence can be dispersed by a kindly tell stating whatever the case happens to be.
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Always thought that since Pocket D is a pocket Dimension made by DJ Zero, (His info when clicked?) that Pocket D is HIS world. Aka, his will is absolute. He made it, thus his will reigns supreme. Nobody can be hurt there, nor can superpowered beings use their powers.
That is atleast my impression after also reading the comics where the superheroines make a visit to D...
Luminary talks to D about setting up a Grudgematch...
Thus I use that as foundation for powerusage in D. If I am wrong, do correct me.
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The answer to that one, btw, is 'NO!' Roleplay is (or should be) consensual, and it's also perfectly within the character of a SG leader to decide that he doesn't want two obnoxious braggarts in his group and kick you. You claim it was IC, well, complaining about it and chucking you out is IC too. Most people don't like behaviour like that. They avoid it, or they incarcerate the perpetrators if they can find a reason to do so.
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Indeed. Anyone in the Unity Vigil or New Vigilants found acting illegally and compromising the moral, ethical and legal integrity of the group get dealt with to the full extent of the law and are removed from the group. Happened to Ultimune (Went Rogue), happened to Doctor Mechano (Went Hero, got arrested, went rogue and broke himself out of jail.)
If a character in the UV started going on about eating souls and torturing like that, they'd be dealt with as the situation requires.
Usually ends in the Zig.
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19:03:28 Son of Ares: Greetings The Phantoms
19:03:52 The Phantoms: Greetings, mortals.
19:03:59 Son of Ares: mortals?
19:04:06 The Phantoms: Yes, Mortal.
19:04:08 Son of Ares: do you know who i am?
19:04:08 Other Guy: Say wha-?
19:04:15 The Phantoms: .....No, I do not.
19:04:45 Son of Ares: then bow down, i am the son of Ares, and i am gifted at killing, maybe you will be next for your insult - Muahahaha - seriously this is just too much. Now if he had then replied, uncertainly or with just the slightest hint of 'This isn't going the way i had planned - let's try a different tract.' it might have pulled it off. Otherwise this just sounds like something out of a really bad Flash Gordon spinoff.
19:04:54 The Phantoms: I cannot die. - Way to go spreading the news. Some others may have seen this as a challenge. If they had and approached you (via tell) on the possibility of them finding out how you might be weakened, can you say in all honesty that you would have considered it and perhaps run/co-run a plot based on this?
19:05:27 The Phantoms: Mabye temporarily remain in a form of statis, but not die. - Way to go telling the World and its life partner your weakness. If I were very powerful but perhaps wanted to throw others off the scent, I wouldn't have even mentioned the fact that I can't die in the first place, let alone given away a clue as to what might happen if someone tried it. But that's just me.
19:05:37 Son of Ares: ofcourse you can, my blade was forged to sever immortallity - Godmod
19:05:37 Other Guy: What the [censored] are you on about? - Sensible reaction
19:05:39 The Phantoms: I hold respect for one who demands that sort of authority. - Hang about, two ticks ago you were the man who couldn't be killed.
19:05:55 The Phantoms: So, I do respect you, I simply assumed you were a mortal.
19:06:01 Other Guy: *Yawns* - Sensible.
19:06:17 Son of Ares: *backhands Other Guy* "Quiet" - God Mod
19:06:32 Son of Ares: Assumptions kill my friend
19:06:34 The Phantoms: ....Yes, I repsect you.
19:06:47 The Phantoms: Hmm. You make a valid point. By Aphrodite's Girdle...
19:07:07 Other Guy: Are you retarded or summit? - Bit harsh but still sensible.
19:07:20 The Phantoms: ...Are you?
19:07:41 The Phantoms: I am Me, Demon of the satanic creed.
19:08:03 The Phantoms: ....Oh, and I enjoy burning souls. - Very funny joke.
19:08:05 Son of Ares: I Am Kalliades son of Ares, Demi-God of War
19:08:15 Other Guy: Your also modest - I believe this is sarcasm
19:08:20 Son of Ares: And i enjoy pain, suffering and killing - Sounds like the kind of guy I like to... ahem. Apart from the killing bit
19:08:30 The Phantoms: Hah! Demons are not made for modesty.
19:08:34 The Phantoms: I enjoy those also.
19:08:43 Other Guy: I enjoy sex, stealing and drinking, now the introductions over oh mighty overlord, shut the [censored] up.
19:09:10 Son of Ares: but can you do it with great skill, and should we prove ourselves on Other Guy? - Attempt to GodMod
19:09:22 The Phantoms: I would enjoy that. - Condoning a God Mod
19:09:37 Son of Ares: would you mind joining me in the base?
19:09:44 Other Guy: [censored] no - Clever use of the irony of the comic book. S/He can hear what you just said.
19:09:58 The Phantoms: ....He enjoys cursing, I see.
19:11:33 The Phantoms: ...oh, and yes, Im already there.
19:11:45 Other Guy: You two are [censored] weird - Possible attempt to change the subject or politely ignore the two characters attempting to GodMod. I would have just clicked 'Ignore' by now.
19:11:52 The Phantoms: You can talk.
29-2008 19:12:27 Other Guy: I can also kick the [censored] outta smart mouths like you, I didnt sign up to take [censored] by some demi-god up his own [censored]
19:12:34 Son of Ares: i suppose it is instinct for it?
19:12:56 The Phantoms: I hate it when they complain. It makes killing them so very irritating - Which part of Heroes are not known for going around and killing things is missing from this?
19:13:35 Son of Ares: i think it is more fun, you have to work so very hard for that final scream for mercy, so satifying.... - I only hope this character is a villain
19:13:47 The Phantoms: Well, that is the good part, yes.
19:13:54 Other Guy: Do you two ever get laid? - Humour. My word he offered you both so many ways out of this.
[i]Then it degenerates a bit into a 'my willy is biger than yours' conversation which, somehow, feels slightly more 'real'.
19:15:16 Son of Ares: i could have any one, i can mind control anyone, i could force you and make it seem like you actually love me - So why the need to kill? Oh and GodMod attempt
19:15:40 Other Guy: He?, you [censored] retards havent even heard a womans voice have you?, let alone screw her, im a woman you retarded [censored]
19:16:01 The Phantoms: ......Really? you sound like a man...
19:16:12 Other Guy: More of a man than you'll ever be
19:16:37 The Phantoms: Well, Man is but a title for a puny human, is it not?
19:16:39 Son of Ares: oh come now
19:17:20 Son of Ares: Man is but a creation of my whim - Seriously?
19:17:27 Other Guy: Riiight..
19:18:02 The Phantoms: You created man?....
19:18:09 The Phantoms: I highly doubt as much.
19:18:13 Son of Ares: by accident
19:18:30 Son of Ares: along with Hades and Hephaestus, we got bored - Again this could actually be a funny joke, but surely not a serious claim?
19:18:44 The Phantoms: ....well, thats more likely. What right thinking god, would make something so worthless and insignificant. - Destroyed any chance of above being a joke
19:19:12 Other Guy: it is fun being worshipped
19:19:25 The Phantoms: ...And feared, that is rather amusing.
19:19:47 Son of Ares: feared?
19:20:00 The Phantoms: Not many exactly worship demons, do they.
19:20:05 The Phantoms: Not anymore, anyway.
19:20:18 Other Guy: Where the [censored] is Someone Else?, I aint takin' this [censored].
19:20:37 The Phantoms: Is the human always this annoying?
19:20:42 Son of Ares: Someone Else is 'mislaid in time' - GodMod
19:20:50 Other Guy: Then [censored] this
19:20:53 The Phantoms: Mislaid?...
19:21:20 Other Guy: I signed up cus' Someone Else gave me a good job offer, and pay was aight, but I aint working with retarded [censored] like you two, later, not.
19:21:31 Other Guy has quit the Super Group - Applause
19:22:00 The Phantoms: Well, that was strange.
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In short, Phantoms, people have tried really hard to offer their viewpoints on your OP. Whether you choose to take any of it on board is ultimately up to you. If you enjoy this kind of roleplay then fine, go ahead. But don't expect everyone to think it's really good or worth their while.
Also as an aside (and I've been guilty of this when I go into the D on several occasions) - Pocket D has some kind of barrier to prevent conflict. I'm never quite sure if this extends to being able to use powers if you have any (making ice cubes or causing it to Snow outside), or if a person throws a punch will they end up in a cornfield? If someone could be more proactive than me and find out for certain what the deal is, I would be grateful. Then it could be one thing that might actually be able to be applied across the board so that whenever anyone's in D, acts of violence can be dispersed by a kindly tell stating whatever the case happens to be.
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1. I didn't say I didn't want or need people's viewpoints. I appreacite them.
2. Who do you think was godmodding there the most? Me or Son of Ares?
3. I wouldn't call taunts/challenges godmodding. That rules out 2., as well.
That is all...we will discuss this even more in 2009
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1. I didn't say I didn't want or need people's viewpoints. I appreacite them.
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Then why post a question in the RP section of the forums?
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2. Who do you think was godmodding there the most? Me or Son of Ares?
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I didn't realise this was some kind of spot-the-ball competition. I can only assume that you asked for SoA's permission to post a transcript in the first place. But to answer the question, there was a fair amount of godmoding between the pair of you.
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3. I wouldn't call taunts/challenges godmodding. That rules out 2., as well.
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Taunts and challenges are all well and good. Continuing to do so despite the bizarreness of it all is up to you. I am guessing that this was the first time your character encountered the person who quit from the nature of the dialogue and that you were in the same SG (which I assume is Hero-side - I have no idea if the message system says SG for Heroes and VG for Villains or not). How do you consider then that taunting a fellow SG member and boasting to them about soul-eating and such is anything like social/sensible behaviour.
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On second thoughts I can already picture the answer in my mind. A Happy New Year to everyone who has been caught, rabbit-like, in the headlights of this thread.
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3. I wouldn't call taunts/challenges godmodding. That rules out 2., as well.
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Boasting about illegal activities is a form of godmodding. Call it Passive GodModding. Essentially, you're admitting to illegal activities, but not accepting the consequences of them because, in reality, the other person can't do anything about it.
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Pretty sure it's a villain SG in the OP. "Illegal activities" would be par for the course, methinks.
My -personal- view on the D thing is each person is in their own 'bubble' and if a violent or act that could cause bodily harm outside of the arena would simply go around/right through, that's how I view it.
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My -personal- view on the D thing is each person is in their own 'bubble' and if a violent or act that could cause bodily harm outside of the arena would simply go around/right through, that's how I view it.
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Something like that. I've seen various and some quite good takes on it, with swords and shots passing right through people. Other people simly counter the measures used on them, which is perfectly fair and reasonable to avoid getting 'killed' Imo.
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My -personal- view on the D thing is each person is in their own 'bubble' and if a violent or act that could cause bodily harm outside of the arena would simply go around/right through, that's how I view it.
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Something like that. I've seen various and some quite good takes on it, with swords and shots passing right through people. Other people simly counter the measures used on them, which is perfectly fair and reasonable to avoid getting 'killed' Imo.
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Given that BaB is known to have gotten "carried away" with some patrons on PD before, hence the chalk outlines and what the barman says, I've always presumed it's the use of offensive powers that are somehow, lets say magically, prevented from hurting people, but physical violence clearly CAN happen at some level.
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I'd say it's a case of Pocket D being like the trainstation in Matrix Revolutions. DJ Zero is God in his own little dimension so contesting his will there is pointless, everyone plays nice because he can easily kick the hell out of any attempt to ignite faction based fighting or take the place over.
So fighting is very much possible, but Pocket D has an omnipotent bouncer. He's a person though, so if someone picked a fight with BAB and got exactly what they deserved for it, he'd probably consider it done with.
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Given that BaB is known to have gotten "carried away" with some patrons on PD before, hence the chalk outlines and what the barman says, I've always presumed it's the use of offensive powers that are somehow, lets say magically, prevented from hurting people, but physical violence clearly CAN happen at some level.
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The only thing I'll say about that is that all we know for certain is that at some point in the past physical violence could happen. We don't know if it's possible now.
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Given that BaB is known to have gotten "carried away" with some patrons on PD before, hence the chalk outlines and what the barman says, I've always presumed it's the use of offensive powers that are somehow, lets say magically, prevented from hurting people, but physical violence clearly CAN happen at some level.
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The only thing I'll say about that is that all we know for certain is that at some point in the past physical violence could happen. We don't know if it's possible now.
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We don't actually know that. We know that that's what a bartender says happened.
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If this happens it tends to be 'I am a GOD!' the response is usually 'prove it...fight me in the arena and prove how much of a God you are' I can say with pretty much 100% certainty (spelling possibly incorrect) that there would be someone who can pummell the god character into submission, the current reigning Gladiators champion Freddie Femur for example or Fans own Toxic Weaver, neither of which claims to be a god, infact they use brand-own street thugs to take people out, so you weren't even pwned by another superhero...a mass of normal powered people with guns, lighter fuel, baseball bats, tire irons (gang warfare) and one strong SOB.
Nobody can claim to be a god if they were taken down by what amounts to a gang land kicking, especially a god of war.
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Depends what type of "god" they are
I have several divine characters that I have played over the years in coh and I would not expect any of them to be undefeatable. But I do play my characters quite close to what I have seen/read in-game.
god-hood does not have to equate to ominipotence, just look at any number of myths around the world and I would guess that there are more gods that can be defeated with a snooker ball in a sock than can juggle mountains
(Though with the example you have given my experience would be that no one would challenge a fight that limited them to the games mechanics, its one of the reasons why we used to have such limited success at our rp sessions in pvp zones when I last played )
Going back to the OP:
Divine characters are not bad.
Baddly implemented and played divine/infernal characters are terrible though.
They are no different from any other character type to play, they provide their own challenges and rewards much like the others.
But..
It is important to remember to make sure that the characters (all characters) abide by the worlds mythos/rules as far as they are known, other than that as long as you avoid god-modding then you cant really go wrong.
To be honest I have seen more annoying and "moment breaking" mortal characters in the past than I have divine/infernal....I call it the curse of "batman", it leads to almost undefeatable and infallible vigilantes/dark heroes.
I just did it to show it's not just characters that are gods, or have relations to them that are the problem. The only justification I need to do for a character is how I get away with Schro's powers being by their nature undefinable ^^