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Btw, Raven, some RP characters can avoid getting their soul stolen/burned, so it can't be called godmodding, depending on the character.
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... I'm not sure I follow your logic. So you can steal someone's soul, but that's okay because you can't steal some character's souls?
"It's not godmodding, just that your character has no ability to prevent it, so I can!"
"I can smash your sandcastle in and you can't stop me because I'm bigger than you."
Yes, you can, but that doesn't mean you -should-, because at the day no one will want to play in the sandbox when you're in there, or go to other sandboxes, simply to avoid having their sandcastle ruined.
It's like having a blind archer get his sight back magically, or someone ressurecting Cindersnap's parents, or bringing Madame Midknight back from the dead. It ruins people's characters and isn't good etiquette.
I have read everything in this thread and I have the itch to add my 2 inf's worth.
There have been a lot of useful points raised and varying opinions shared (I have learned a lot).
Maybe to answer the OP. It's not that 'godly' characters are frowned upon, it's more a case of you can bring which ever character you want to rp with. Just be aware of other rp'ers around you and the effect your IC statements will have.
Tells are an rp'ers best friend (imho).
@Wild Red
"In the Rogue Isles, loyalty goes to the highest bidder." Wild Red
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"It's not godmodding, just that your character has no ability to prevent it, so I can!"
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"in my defence, your honor, it wasn't murder, as if he was wearing a bullet proof vest, he wouldn't be dead"
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Btw, Raven, some RP characters can avoid getting their soul stolen/burned, so it can't be called godmodding, depending on the character.
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All my characters have a way to prevent it, Phantoms. It's simple: I send you a tell saying "welcome to ignore." I won't let some playground bully mess up my character so permanently. It's really that simple.
Face it, people who roleplay like you are the reason over-powered characters are shunned and disliked.
PS. Just to be fair, it isn't just overt godmodders who can turn your roleplay experience into a pile of cinders. I've had it done to me by really very good roleplayers who just don't think about the consequences of some plot or other they have been working on. I think I'll call it Ultimate Roleplayer Syndrome: you think the roleplay is so important that you don't really care what happens to the characters, as long as this idea for a plot you have works itself out.
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Btw, Raven, some RP characters can avoid getting their soul stolen/burned, so it can't be called godmodding, depending on the character.
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... I'm not sure I follow your logic. So you can steal someone's soul, but that's okay because you can't steal some character's souls?
"It's not godmodding, just that your character has no ability to prevent it, so I can!"
"I can smash your sandcastle in and you can't stop me because I'm bigger than you."
Yes, you can, but that doesn't mean you -should-, because at the day no one will want to play in the sandbox when you're in there, or go to other sandboxes, simply to avoid having their sandcastle ruined.
It's like having a blind archer get his sight back magically, or someone ressurecting Cindersnap's parents, or bringing Madame Midknight back from the dead. It ruins people's characters and isn't good etiquette.
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I wouldn't steal anyones soul at the end of the day with the character, just a threat.
But if they could avoid getting their souls stolen, it wouldn't be godmodding, would it?
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Not all of them. You just shun and dislike them. Not everyone does.
"If you mess with me, I'll eat your soul."
"Right. I'm just going to go over here then."
It's like the dark, brooding characters who sit in dark tavern corners glowering at people, and then complain that no one is RP'ing with them. People don't tend to socialize with those with such attitudes. At least those with common sense.
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Given that BaB is known to have gotten "carried away" with some patrons on PD before, hence the chalk outlines and what the barman says, I've always presumed it's the use of offensive powers that are somehow, lets say magically, prevented from hurting people, but physical violence clearly CAN happen at some level.
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I always assumed that was just a joke put together by DJ Zero and the barman. I doubt even the relatively loose approach to canon in CoX would ignore something like that. :P
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You just shun and dislike them. Not everyone does.
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So, my question is, why do people frown 'godly' characters? In RP you are who you are, he's a god, he's a human. In RP OOC powers/ATs don't affect IC power, as far as I'm concerned.
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Clearly, it isn't just me otherwise:
a. You wouldn't have asked the question originally.
b. You wouldn't have been kicked from this SG, which was your original complaint.
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But if they could avoid getting their souls stolen, it wouldn't be godmodding, would it?
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If you're going to be pedantic (and you are, since you don't know before trying it whether they can stop it or not), then yes, it is godmodding.
"I attempt to steal your soul," is the correct form. This allows the other person to respond and does not state that your character has done something which they may not be able to.
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OK, so a few people who have posted DO have god characters, and some think they're just boring to play.
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You've misunderstood. The problem isn't that they're boring to play. The problem is that they're boring to play against.
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OK, so a few people who have posted DO have god characters, and some think they're just boring to play.
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You've misunderstood. The problem isn't that they're boring to play. The problem is that they're boring to play against.
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If you check some of the earlier posts, people have said they're both boring to play and boring to play against.
They are both boring to play and boring to play against. However, the problem is generally that they are boring to play against.
You do not find them boring to play, because you like the idea of being able to do anything. You are hardly alone in this. It is actually fun to play that kind of character in a setting which is designed for that kind of character. White Wolk's supers game Aberrant has a baseline power level which makes Statesman look like a wimp. However, all the villains make Recluse look like the guy who came bottom of the class at evil school, and advancing further in power tends to involve you slowly (or sometimes rapidly) losing your humanity and becoming a bad guy (because White Wolf games wouldn't be White Wolf games if they weren't depressing pieces of <insert derogative>
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However, despite the fact that supers in CoX are clearly far better than average, they never (even at the levels of States and Recluse) gain the world-shattering power levels that many roleplayers give their characters. Left unchecked, this makes them boring to play, in reality, since there is absolutely no challenge the world can throw at them that they do not find trivial. And since many characters they interact with will not have this level of power, they are entirely superflous to requirements.
A recent example that springs to mind was the attack on Unity Tower as part of the Unity Vigil plotlines. Various comments were made to the effect that little melee characters were really quite shown up when some of the members were more or less single-handedly taking on a Kronos Titan.
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A recent example that springs to mind was the attack on Unity Tower as part of the Unity Vigil plotlines. Various comments were made to the effect that little melee characters were really quite shown up when some of the members were more or less single-handedly taking on a Kronos Titan.
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I should point out there that the only one who DID do that, Burned Ice, ran with her tail between her legs, being unable to even make it skid... If she'd not bailed, she'd likely have been seriously hurt... Her attacking it was sheer stupidity, and BOY did she get a telling off for it!
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Part of the issue is that CoX does not make characters take any weakness or disadvantages ...even as a concept background ...read most peoples Bio's and some how 99.98% of the hero population is immune to mind scans ...
one of the best parts of Champions PnP game was you had to take weakness to build a toon ..you got build points for each weakness...
may be we should all agree to write up our hero/villians weakness ....after all , all the best comic characters seem to have a few ...oh and being human does not count if you can take a minigun burst at point blank range and still beat up the gunner .....
perhaps add a section to the handbook char template
ok now my fire /fire tank has dependants her family .she is the also solo wage earner
i have one char who has to answer for all his action to his boses ..or will loose his powers ..which works well as he is my one god like toon..in fact he is conceptualy more powerful than the average god ..and gets away with it ..
i have a char that is dead ...try interacting with the modern world when all the data says you are dead ..no id no credit rating , no tax code ...
...just my two cents oh and BTW Happy New Year
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A recent example that springs to mind was the attack on Unity Tower as part of the Unity Vigil plotlines. Various comments were made to the effect that little melee characters were really quite shown up when some of the members were more or less single-handedly taking on a Kronos Titan.
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I should point out there that the only one who DID do that, Burned Ice, ran with her tail between her legs, being unable to even make it skid... If she'd not bailed, she'd likely have been seriously hurt... Her attacking it was sheer stupidity, and BOY did she get a telling off for it!
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As I recall, WW sank it, but I may be remembering it wrong.
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This is largely due to the amount of badly played telepaths about...
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may be we should all agree to write up our hero/villians weakness
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There's a section in the Wiki designated for writing down character weaknesses. A lot of mine say "is a human."
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Nah, Warlock blasted apart one of the SPIDER units the Shadow Cabinet fronted. Josie Ironside used her robots to draw some fire from it away from the Towers, other than that it teleported safely away when the grid came back online.
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It doesn't matter if overpowered character are fun or boring to play so long as they are dull to play against, and they are.
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It doesn't matter if overpowered character are fun or boring to play so long as they are dull to play against, and they are.
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They're not intrinsically boring to play against, the problem is pants RPing. It's a little unfair to claim all massively powerful characters are rubbish to play against because they have the bad PR of all the morons acting like children with them. It's like saying Burberry make trash clothes because they were unlucky enough to get picked out by the chavscum as the designer of choice; hardly fair.
ANY character will be boring to play against if the person controlling it is a petty twonk with no creative thought and egotistically incapable of allowing anything to happen that denies their own desires.
There's nothing stopping a godly/powerful character from being fun and personable, you just have to work at it, and avoid the "I'm a focused, arrogant, direct incarnation of unstoppable power" cliche the children go with. There's nothing stopping your toon being the constantly distracted avatar of a barely concious bona fide God, who has such a vast depth of experience he nostalgically rambles on with storied anecdotes about pretty much any subject you can think of, while being inhumanly cheerful about horrific experiences such as a team member dying or his avatar just getting a good beating, because it's all largely meaningless curiosities and amusements to his otherwise untouchable, boredly omnipotent conciousness wallowing in a Chthonian coma, to the point his team mates treat him like a harmless doddering idiot they constantly and rudely tell to shut up during his usual gassing because he just smiles about everything. Which somewhat disarms you to the fact that if you work together at the plot and allow it, he could be angered enough to actually pay attention to the fool who managed it....with predictably nuclear results....
Chairman of the Charity of Pain; accepting donations of blood and guts.
Prophet of the Creamy Truth; "If it's empty, fill it with cream."
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Title really says it.
So, here's the situation. I got invited to a RPSG with my vill, from a guy I met on Heroes coalition, joined, SG chat is purely strict RP, but that's not the point, here's how it went...
WARNING: Contains LOTS of bad language and suggestive themes.
Sorry for lots of channel, it's SG chat only you should read.
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2-29-2008 19:03:28 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>Greetings Me
12-29-2008 19:03:34 [Union Chat]TheFinnish: ill just give 1 finger salute for suckyfinnishtvchannels...
12-29-2008 19:03:42 [Tell] Guy 1: SG n Coalition chat is strict RP
12-29-2008 19:03:45 <color #ffaaff><color2 #ffaaff><colorhover #ffaaff><colorselect #0><colorselectbg #333333><link #ffaaff><linkhover #ffd2ff><linkselect #0><linkselectbg #666666>You are now in Super Group mode
12-29-2008 19:03:52 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Greetings, mortals.
12-29-2008 19:03:59 [Union Chat]TheFinnish: showing reruns of heroes and lost seasons 1 for the 2nd time >/
12-29-2008 19:03:59 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>mortals?
12-29-2008 19:04:04 [NPC] Sam the Bartender: Hey, be safe out there. That dance floor can get tricky what with it being see-through and all.
12-29-2008 19:04:06 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Yes, Mortal.
12-29-2008 19:04:08 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>do you know who i am?
12-29-2008 19:04:08 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Say wha-?
12-29-2008 19:04:15 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>.....No, I do not.
12-29-2008 19:04:19 You are flying!
12-29-2008 19:04:29 [Union Chat]Mother's Love: our networks do that as well sometimes
12-29-2008 19:04:36 [NPC] Joe Young: Never bet against the Banana-nator!
12-29-2008 19:04:37 [NPC] Cornelius: You want in on the fun? Go use a Battle Terminal upstairs.
12-29-2008 19:04:45 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>then bow down, i am the son of Ares, and i am gifted at killing, maybe you will be next for your insult
12-29-2008 19:04:46 [Defiant Events]Leese: offline XP actually cancels out existing debt. Which is nice 
12-29-2008 19:04:54 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I cannot die.
12-29-2008 19:04:57 [Union Chat]Momma Crow: only sometimes mum ?
12-29-2008 19:04:57 [NPC] Sam the Bartender: Hey, be safe out there. That dance floor can get tricky what with it being see-through and all.
12-29-2008 19:05:07 [NPC] Pocket D Hostess: Welcome to Pocket D. Enjoy yourself.
12-29-2008 19:05:14 [47 Ties]AG: [Swift Spine:L50]off for abit cya all
12-29-2008 19:05:18 [47 Ties]Tyketto: [Midnight Mist:17:V:]cya AG
12-29-2008 19:05:22 [47 Ties]Nizru: [PhantomShift:V15]later AG
12-29-2008 19:05:24 [Union Chat]TheFinnish: at least u got more than 4 channels to watch....
12-29-2008 19:05:27 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Mabye temporarily remain in a form of statis, but not die.
12-29-2008 19:05:37 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>ofcourse you can, my blade was forged to sever immortallity
12-29-2008 19:05:37 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>What the [censored] are you on about?
12-29-2008 19:05:38 [Union Chat]Mother's Love: well, apart from channel 5 and their 'freak of the week' documentarys
12-29-2008 19:05:39 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I hold respect for one who demands that sort of authority.
12-29-2008 19:05:40 [NPC] Pocket D Hostess: This is the elevator to the club. Have a nice time.
12-29-2008 19:05:43 [47 Ties]Aurora: [Zombie Dufus:V14] cya AG
12-29-2008 19:05:55 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>So, I do respect you, I simply assumed you were a mortal.
12-29-2008 19:05:58 [Defiant Events]Leese: eek, they're hideous!
12-29-2008 19:06:01 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>&lt;yawns&gt;
12-29-2008 19:06:02 [Defiant Events]Leese: wrong channel
12-29-2008 19:06:06 [Union Chat]Luke1: They try to make you feel sorry for them, and give them epicly mean titles like: Freak with a tail
12-29-2008 19:06:10 [Union Chat]Luke1: Mixed messages much?
12-29-2008 19:06:13 [NPC] Port Oakes Bouncer: Hey, how's it going? If you want Port Oakes, it's this way.
12-29-2008 19:06:13 [NPC] Pocket D Hostess: This is the elevator to the club. Have a nice time.
12-29-2008 19:06:17 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>*backhands guy 2* "Quiet"
12-29-2008 19:06:23 [Union Chat]Mother's Love: Surprised you are not within the European satillites footprint?
12-29-2008 19:06:32 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>Assumptions kill my friend
12-29-2008 19:06:34 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>....Yes, I repsect you.
12-29-2008 19:06:45 [NPC] Pocket D Hostess: Welcome to Pocket D. Head through the elevator for a great time.
12-29-2008 19:06:47 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Hmm. You make a valid point.
12-29-2008 19:06:58 [Union Chat]Envoy of the End: This just shows what peopel who watch Channel 4 want to see
12-29-2008 19:07:06 [Union Chat]Envoy of the End: Channel 5*
12-29-2008 19:07:07 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Are you retarded or summit?
12-29-2008 19:07:09 [Union Chat]TheFinnish: but im not complainig since havent paid the permit to own/watch tv ever...
12-29-2008 19:07:17 [NPC] Port Oakes Bouncer: I hope you enjoyed yourself. If you're ready to leave, the door to Port Oakes is behind me.
12-29-2008 19:07:18 [Tell] @Natoe: not bad ty
12-29-2008 19:07:20 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>...Are you?
12-29-2008 19:07:21 [Union Chat]Mother's Love: you do realise you've just alienated every mutant in Paragon with a tail Luke1
12-29-2008 19:07:21 [Union Chat]Luke1: LOLTAXEVASION
12-29-2008 19:07:26 [Union Chat]Luke1: LOLPENALTY
12-29-2008 19:07:32 [47 Ties]Destruktor: cya ag
12-29-2008 19:07:35 [Defiant Events]Cyber: Thank for a great fun sister P guys
12-29-2008 19:07:41 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I am Me, Demon of the satanic creed.
12-29-2008 19:07:43 [Union Chat]Envoy of the End: /e Ringtaxman
12-29-2008 19:07:50 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: Villians, Death Surge Gm sighted in cap Au Diable, anyone wanna come take him down?
12-29-2008 19:07:50 [NPC] Pocket D Hostess: Welcome to Pocket D. Head through the elevator for a great time.
12-29-2008 19:07:52 [Defiant Events]Lal: {Tesla Lal:16:V] o.0
12-29-2008 19:07:54 [Union Chat]Luke1: Bennnnnjamin
12-29-2008 19:07:58 [Union Chat]Envoy of the End: a
12-29-2008 19:08:02 [Union Chat]Envoy of the End: Lukkeeeeeeee! (:
12-29-2008 19:08:03 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>....Oh, and I enjoy burning souls.
12-29-2008 19:08:05 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>I Am Kalliades son of Ares, Demi-God of War
12-29-2008 19:08:05 [NPC] Bartender: Can I help you?
12-29-2008 19:08:06 [sals badgehunters]stayon: good evning all
12-29-2008 19:08:07 [sals badgehunters]Sypher Vendetta: any tfs on
12-29-2008 19:08:10 [NPC] Bartender: Welcome! Enjoy yourself!
12-29-2008 19:08:15 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Your also modest
12-29-2008 19:08:20 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>And i enjoy pain, suffering and killing
12-29-2008 19:08:21 [sals badgehunters]Mother's Love: evening Stayon
12-29-2008 19:08:29 [Defiant Events]Mean Freeze: sure i can help kill deathsurge
12-29-2008 19:08:30 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Hah! Demons are not made for modesty.
12-29-2008 19:08:34 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I enjoy those also.
12-29-2008 19:08:41 [sals badgehunters]Mother's Love: Mothership Raid: 8:30pm UK time
12-29-2008 19:08:43 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>I enjoy sex, stealing and drinking, now the introductions over oh mighty overlord, shut the [censored] up.
12-29-2008 19:08:48 Shutting off Fly.
12-29-2008 19:08:48 You are no longer flying.
12-29-2008 19:08:50 [Defiant Events]Defcon Kid: I'm in for Deathsurge, need him for accolade, just swapping toon
12-29-2008 19:08:53 [sals badgehunters]Sypher Vendetta: ooo ty, im a bit low tho
12-29-2008 19:09:08 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: k, send me a tell who's comming
12-29-2008 19:09:10 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>but can you do it with great skill, and should we prove ourselves on Guy 2?
12-29-2008 19:09:11 [sals badgehunters]Fire Dancer: Sis Psyche tf - lvl 20-25, team now forming - 5 spaces
12-29-2008 19:09:22 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I would enjoy that.
12-29-2008 19:09:22 [sals badgehunters]Sypher Vendetta: im 26 
12-29-2008 19:09:37 [NPC] Warrior Raver: So, I'm about to head to the bar, want me to grab you something?
12-29-2008 19:09:37 [NPC] Vahzilok Raver: Interesting...
12-29-2008 19:09:37 [NPC] Skull Raver: So what's the word on that new Dyne shipment I keep hearing about?
12-29-2008 19:09:37 [NPC] Troll Raver: Me want drink now. You talk lots.
12-29-2008 19:09:37 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>would you mind joining me in the base?
12-29-2008 19:09:38 [sals badgehunters]Sypher Vendetta: u need a stone tank?
12-29-2008 19:09:39 [sals badgehunters]stayon: hi mother
12-29-2008 19:09:44 [NPC] Dockworker Raver: Well, that's an interesting story. Now let me tell you about a little thing I like to call 'reality'.
12-29-2008 19:09:44 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>[censored] no
12-29-2008 19:09:58 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>....He enjoys cursing, I see.
12-29-2008 19:10:02 [Union Chat]TheFinnish: ive been using Confuse on the man trying to see my permits...
12-29-2008 19:10:32 [Tell] Guy 2: Hm?))
12-29-2008 19:10:33 You activate Sprint and can now run faster.
12-29-2008 19:10:47 [Tell] -->Guy 2: ((that means swearing))
12-29-2008 19:11:21 [sals badgehunters]stayon: any gm hunting or mostf starting
12-29-2008 19:11:33 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>...oh, and yes, Im already there.
12-29-2008 19:11:45 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>You two are [censored] weird
12-29-2008 19:11:46 [sals badgehunters]Fire Dancer: 2 spaces for sis psyche tf lvl 20-25 for xp
12-29-2008 19:11:47 [sals badgehunters]Mr Wallace: any room on raid for a couple of lv 46 rad troller
12-29-2008 19:11:51 [47 Ties]Greenstalker: [Violetwalker:L6:Arachnos Widow] hi ties
12-29-2008 19:11:52 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>You can talk.
12-29-2008 19:11:57 [sals badgehunters]MESS: any one know id the bombs in the "stop rikti bombing" count towards the watchman badge
12-29-2008 19:12:01 [47 Ties]Nizru: [PhantomShift:V15]hey
12-29-2008 19:12:12 [sals badgehunters]salacious: they dont, nor do heavies
12-29-2008 19:12:12 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: no, they don't.
12-29-2008 19:12:15 [47 Ties]Tyketto: [Midnight Mist:17:V:]hey
12-29-2008 19:12:24 [sals badgehunters]Cavima: hello, are you starting to form teams for raid?
12-29-2008 19:12:27 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>I can also kick the [censored] outta smart mouths like you, I didnt sign up to take [censored] by some demi-god up his own [censored]
12-29-2008 19:12:29 [sals badgehunters]MESS: ah well
12-29-2008 19:12:34 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>i suppose it is instinct for it?
12-29-2008 19:12:34 [sals badgehunters]Statesdane: already?
12-29-2008 19:12:44 [Defiant Events]Defcon Kid: anyone interested in defeating Deathsurge send tell to Juggernault
12-29-2008 19:12:56 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I hate it when they complain. It makes killing them so very irritating
12-29-2008 19:12:59 [sals badgehunters]Mother's Love: 8:30pm UK time Cavima
12-29-2008 19:13:32 [sals badgehunters]Cavima: yah i have read it, just asking becouse mr wallace asked for team...
12-29-2008 19:13:35 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>i think it is more fun, you have to work so very hard for that final scream for mercy, so satifying....
12-29-2008 19:13:41 [sals badgehunters]Cavima: i wanted to make sure you havent started already
12-29-2008 19:13:47 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Well, that is the good part, yes.
12-29-2008 19:13:53 [sals badgehunters]Mr Wallace: no just wanted ot know if its ok for toons lower than 50 to join
12-29-2008 19:13:54 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Do you two ever get laid?
12-29-2008 19:14:01 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>[censored] is good
12-29-2008 19:14:04 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Yes, actually.
12-29-2008 19:14:04 [sals badgehunters]Cavima: hehe ok so
12-29-2008 19:14:08 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I do.
12-29-2008 19:14:20 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>[censored] makes sense, no one would willingly give you a [censored]
12-29-2008 19:14:23 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: for a ship raid? as long as they don't mind being sidekicks.
12-29-2008 19:14:29 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>*sighs*
12-29-2008 19:14:36 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>which is more than I can say for you.
12-29-2008 19:14:39 [sals badgehunters]Mr Wallace: np with that just never done one
12-29-2008 19:14:43 [Defiant Events]nidah: need help still?
12-29-2008 19:14:49 [sals badgehunters]KDR: mothership raid aint about exp, but the merits
12-29-2008 19:14:52 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: yep
12-29-2008 19:14:52 [47 Ties]Nizru: [Sgt. Fist:V19]back
12-29-2008 19:14:55 [sals badgehunters]Mr Wallace: count Mr and Mrs Wallace in then
12-29-2008 19:14:58 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>HAH
12-29-2008 19:14:58 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: who u wanna come with?
12-29-2008 19:15:04 [Defiant Events]nidah: k i can get on my brute
12-29-2008 19:15:10 [sals badgehunters]Cavima: you can get 400merits each raid easily, very worthly
12-29-2008 19:15:14 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Is he always this annoying?
12-29-2008 19:15:14 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: their's 53's in the raid itself, so a mentor's more than just handy.
12-29-2008 19:15:14 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>You [censored] kiddin' me?, ive had more sex than your ever gonna get
12-29-2008 19:15:16 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>i could have any one, i can mind control anyone, i could force you and make it seem like you actually love me
12-29-2008 19:15:30 [sals badgehunters]Luke1: and 54s
12-29-2008 19:15:31 [sals badgehunters]Luke1: iirc
12-29-2008 19:15:40 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>He?, you [censored] retards havent even heard a womans voice have you?, let alone screw her, im a woman you retarded [censored]
12-29-2008 19:16:00 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: possibly, wasn't too certain.
12-29-2008 19:16:01 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>......Really? you sound like a man...
12-29-2008 19:16:07 [sals badgehunters]Mr Wallace: cool just want to see the mothership sound like fun
12-29-2008 19:16:12 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>More of a man than you'll ever be
12-29-2008 19:16:18 [sals badgehunters]Fire Dancer: 2 spaces left on Sis Psyche - lots of freaks
12-29-2008 19:16:27 [sals badgehunters]Luke1: like this channel ;0
12-29-2008 19:16:29 [sals badgehunters]Luke1: jokes :P
12-29-2008 19:16:30 [sals badgehunters]salacious: is that the team or the enemies?
12-29-2008 19:16:37 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Well, Man is but a title for a puny human, is it not?
12-29-2008 19:16:37 [sals badgehunters]Sypher Vendetta: how long dus sister psyche last?
12-29-2008 19:16:39 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>oh come now
12-29-2008 19:16:45 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: 2-3 hours?
12-29-2008 19:16:45 Your friend Nithion is now online.
12-29-2008 19:17:13 [sals badgehunters]Fire Dancer: yea - 2-3 hrs
12-29-2008 19:17:20 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>Man is but a creation of my whim
12-29-2008 19:17:27 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Riiight..
12-29-2008 19:17:32 [Defiant Events]nidah: k back
12-29-2008 19:17:35 [sals badgehunters]Fire Dancer: lol&nbsp;Sal - bit of both
12-29-2008 19:18:02 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>You created man?....
12-29-2008 19:18:09 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>I highly doubt as much.
12-29-2008 19:18:11 [sals badgehunters]salacious: best team build imo
12-29-2008 19:18:13 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>by accident
12-29-2008 19:18:30 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>along with Hades and Hephaestus, we got bored
12-29-2008 19:18:30 [Defiant Events]nidah: oh he not in the usual place
12-29-2008 19:18:35 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: which side are you in that build, sally?
12-29-2008 19:18:44 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>....well, thats more likely. What right thinking god, would make something so worthless and insignificant.
12-29-2008 19:18:46 [sals badgehunters]salacious: enemy?
12-29-2008 19:18:57 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: second team is forming if u can find us
12-29-2008 19:18:59 [sals badgehunters]salacious: who am i kidding?
12-29-2008 19:19:05 [sals badgehunters]Lightnia: evening
12-29-2008 19:19:12 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>it is fun being worshipped
12-29-2008 19:19:18 [Defiant Events]nidah: where is he
12-29-2008 19:19:25 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>...And feared, that is rather amusing.
12-29-2008 19:19:46 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: east of the vanguard enterance
12-29-2008 19:19:47 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>feared?
12-29-2008 19:19:57 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: about half way to the edge of the map
12-29-2008 19:20:00 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Not many exactly worship demons, do they.
12-29-2008 19:20:05 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Not anymore, anyway.
12-29-2008 19:20:16 [Defiant Events]Defcon Kid: 517 yds East Vanguard entrance exactly
12-29-2008 19:20:18 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Where the [censored] is Someone Else?, I aint takin' this [censored].
12-29-2008 19:20:24 [sals badgehunters]Lightnia: we doing another raid tonight mimsy?
12-29-2008 19:20:25 [Defiant Events]Juggernault: showoff:P
12-29-2008 19:20:29 [Defiant Events]nidah: ahhh see him
12-29-2008 19:20:37 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Is the human always this annoying?
12-29-2008 19:20:37 [sals badgehunters]Lightnia: oops mumsy*
12-29-2008 19:20:42 [SuperGroup] Guy 1: <color #ff0101><bgcolor #010101>Someone Else is 'mislaid in time'
12-29-2008 19:20:49 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: 8:30, yes.
12-29-2008 19:20:50 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>Then [censored] this
12-29-2008 19:20:53 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Mislaid?...
12-29-2008 19:21:03 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: (UK time, just over an hour).
12-29-2008 19:21:20 [SuperGroup] Guy 2: <color #0101fe>I signed up cus' Someone Else gave me a good job offer, and pay was aight, but I aint working with retarded [censored] like you two, later, not.
12-29-2008 19:21:22 [sals badgehunters]Lightnia: hehe just under its 7.20 :P
12-29-2008 19:21:29 [Defiant Events]nidah: heh too easy
12-29-2008 19:21:31 Guy 2 has quit the Super Group
12-29-2008 19:21:35 [sals badgehunters]Mother's Love: yes Lightnia. (sorry, afk, getting a jaffa cake)
12-29-2008 19:21:48 [sals badgehunters]Biscuits: ..so, just over an hour..
12-29-2008 19:22:00 [SuperGroup] Me: <color #010101>Well, that was strange.
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I know this was ICly, but Guy 2 then told the leader we were "godmodding", when we didn't godmod at all, just used threats.
So, my question is, why do people frown 'godly' characters? In RP you are who you are, he's a god, he's a human. In RP OOC powers/ATs don't affect IC power, as far as I'm concerned.
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To quote Dr. Ian Malcolm,
"That is one big pile of [censored]."
To elaborate: you (or at least "your characters") both come across on the same level as a couple of primary school kids. The little whiny weasels who come up to the other kids in the playground and go on about how their Dad is better than your Dad, or how their big brother could beat your big brother up.
The sort of kids that have to feel that they're utterly invincible and the best at everything, who when they get as far as second-level school tend to be bullies (if they're big enough) or GET bullied (if they're not).
When you take that personality and translate it across to a superhero game, it works out much the same way: their powers are better than your powers. They can't die, and if they can then YOU sure as heck couldn't manage to do it, because they're just so much better and more powerful than you are. It doesn't matter who you are. You could be Galactus's big brother, but anything you can do would just tickle. Unless you actually threaten to engage them in actual PvP, at which point they usually either point-blank refuse to "put their money where their mouth is", or blame the game designer's when their Invincible Demonic Warrior loses an arena match to an unpowered fat man with a pointy stick.
When two of these people get together, you get a sort of "I'm more invincible than you are" posturing. It's boring, it's old, it's juvenile, and it's certainly something that I sure as heck don't want to have to listen to in my chat channels. Frankly if that transcript's accurate then I've a lot of respect going for "Guy 2".
Which is silly really, since if you examine any accounts of actual comic book heros, you'll find a fairly consistent "underdog" theme going on. Even the really highly powered guys such as Superman or Thor tend to battle against foes that are even tougher than they are. And whilst, yes, such powerhouses COULD take on weaker guys like the Blue Beetle or Aquaman and paste their innards across the countryside... (1) Firstly, they simply don't do it because hurting those weaker than you is not heroic. I don't care what Judge Dread or the Punisher tell you. And (2) Secondly, Superman doesn't feel the need to brag or remind Guy Gardiner about just how many knots he could tie in his intestines every time they meet up. And (3) Finally, you never know who could have smuggled in a little nugget of Kryptonite... 
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And (2) Secondly, Superman doesn't feel the need to brag or remind Guy Gardiner about just how many knots he could tie in his intestines every time they meet up.
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In that specific case though, it would probably be hilarious.
Chairman of the Charity of Pain; accepting donations of blood and guts.
Prophet of the Creamy Truth; "If it's empty, fill it with cream."
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They're not intrinsically boring to play against, the problem is pants RPing
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Yes and no. High-powered characters, like self inserts or child characters, can be played in a way that's fun for everybody -- they just never are.
Okay, that was rethoric exaggeration -- it does happen. But it is a lot more difficult to play them in ways that are fun for the people you're playing with than more limited characters are, to the point where fun "god characters" are rare as hen's teeth. Most oldtime roleplayers have learnt to avoid them on sight as experience bears out that the chance there will be fun in playing against them is too small to warrant the time and effort.
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And (2) Secondly, Superman doesn't feel the need to brag or remind Guy Gardiner about just how many knots he could tie in his intestines every time they meet up.
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In that specific case though, it would probably be hilarious.
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Well yeah, and probably better than most of DC's current offerings... 
Though Guy Gardiner's personality (rather than Superman's) is a little bit like the one in question.
I'm reminded about the whole "Guy versus Batman" incident, which was quite possibly the best (and shortest) fight in DC history... Guy was definately a bit of a GodModder prior to being educated with the Bat-LARTbat! 
*Roll's a new toon and calls it Q*
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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read most peoples Bio's and some how 99.98% of the hero population is immune to mind scans
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This is largely due to the amount of badly played telepaths about...
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There's a section in the Wiki designated for writing down character weaknesses. A lot of mine say "is a human."
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This. So very much this.
It does help that a few of my characters are robots, or have certain added parts. But people get sick of someone wandering up and spouting their life story. I've taken to writing up just facts about appearance and senses on most of my characters. Out of all my (numerous >.< ) characters I have...only one or two that can be mind-read, because it fits better for the character. Should someone come up and try and godmode them, they will most likely get a lot of insults/wierd looks (depending on the character)
In hindsight, I admit guilty as hell to one really bad telepathy session, which was probably a perfect exampleof how not to do things =P
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, but nothing serious. I guess Zero wouldn't mind that.
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Given that BaB is known to have gotten "carried away" with some patrons on PD before, hence the chalk outlines and what the barman says, I've always presumed it's the use of offensive powers that are somehow, lets say magically, prevented from hurting people, but physical violence clearly CAN happen at some level.
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The only thing I'll say about that is that all we know for certain is that at some point in the past physical violence could happen. We don't know if it's possible now.
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Actually, I've seen some girly punching in PD
Btw, Raven, some RP characters can avoid getting their soul stolen/burned, so it can't be called godmodding, depending on the character.