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Stealth IO's in auto-powers? I'm pretty sure that was changed pretty quickly after it went Live.


 

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I'm pretty sure that was changed pretty quickly after it went Live.

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All the problems, and the problems with the proposed solutions, had been pointed out at least 3-4 weeks before it went live.

And if the players could see them streight away, why couldn't the developers see them before it hit beta, since they are supposed to understand the game so much better?


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Crediting them with some intelligence.

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Some, but not to much. There where loads of people telling Castle that Stealth IOs in auto powers would be broken, on the US forums to, but he went ahead anyway.

There are loads of people saying Electric Armor is broken on stalkers, but has there been any change?

So, no, I think the devs will operate a suck it and see policy. let it go live as is, then fix it a couple of years down the line when the data mining results are in. I hope I'm wrong.

As for a secret hidden way to play bane spiders wich makes them good but no one is smart enough to have figured out yet!!??? Might as well believe that Elvis is alive and working a milkman in Birmingam.

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No but I couldn't help but notice there are more than the usual ways to skin a cat with this game and considered that they made a character where people have to think. Rather than run in mash keys win.


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Crediting them with some intelligence.

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Some, but not to much. There where loads of people telling Castle that Stealth IOs in auto powers would be broken, on the US forums to, but he went ahead anyway.

There are loads of people saying Electric Armor is broken on stalkers, but has there been any change?

So, no, I think the devs will operate a suck it and see policy. let it go live as is, then fix it a couple of years down the line when the data mining results are in. I hope I'm wrong.

As for a secret hidden way to play bane spiders wich makes them good but no one is smart enough to have figured out yet!!??? Might as well believe that Elvis is alive and working a milkman in Birmingam.

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No but I couldn't help but notice there are more than the usual ways to skin a cat with this game and considered that they made a character where people have to think. Rather than run in mash keys win.

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I think you'll find all PC games require key mashing. You keep saying how there's this lucrative oh-so intelligent way to play banes that none of us have figured out yet, this is a game and is supposed to be simple to play.

I'm saying think ur little 'character where people have to think' is a load of [censored] no offence, because if people like praf and stalkobot still can't make sense of what you're supposed to do with this new AT, how are all the spanish, french and german speaking people supposed to? What if they can't read the inevitable FAQ that will be created that lets us in on 'how to definatively own with bane spiders'.

Maybe the devs should just admit it; they tried to be smart and they overcomplicated something, and screwed it up. Just give me an AT with some cool powers, colours, animations and i'm happy. Oh and a really cool mace. ^^

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I like a bit of puzzle in my RPGs, although not *this* type of puzzle


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No there are little things that some players need several for the win sets for that some players do on thin air. If your team couldn't do something as a team it didn't mean its impossible. You maybe just looking at things from the wrong angle. With that in mind plus that some players are okay with banes whilst others are not I am perfectly within my rights to speculate it. I have been using the word speculate a lot as I am still going through things myself with my limited time and so I am not presenting anything as fact unlike some.

P.S. The Germans and the French do just as well, they aren't disadvantaged at all and if they have no problems the devs are unlikely to hear from them.


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No but I couldn't help but notice there are more than the usual ways to skin a cat with this game and considered that they made a character where people have to think.

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Sure, there are lots of ways to play a bane spider. If you play as a blapper you will do quite well. However you will still be outshone by the other SoAs however you play. The best way to build your bane spider is to respec into a crab spider.

Bane Spiders are not gimped. That is not the problem. They are, as Stalky says, lackluster. There is nothing they can do that one of the other SoAs can't do better.


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Your absolutely right again ^^


 

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I have been finishing a rather nice planned builds for all the VEATs. 8 different types, 2 of each. The powers lend themselves to several types. All the power pools are open to help round off the type your making, and IO sets a rank it up, with not even the most sought after I have no trouble reaching elude levels of defense. In planning builds I was picking IO sets I don't normally consider. I felt that new territory is what it is and there is a chance they all lack something. They sure will built wrong.


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I have been finishing a rather nice planned builds for all the VEATs. 8 different types, 2 of each. The powers lend themselves to several types. All the power pools are open to help round off the type your making, and IO sets a rank it up, with not even the most sought after I have no trouble reaching elude levels of defense. In planning builds I was picking IO sets I don't normally consider. I felt that new territory is what it is and there is a chance they all lack something. They sure will built wrong.

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this is wrong in designing an AT though, I can bypass the deficincies in just about any AT but not everyone has my resources or knowledge. Yes you can patch up pretty much all things but you shouldnt have to. There shouldnt be a veat thats "harder" to play than the others without specific in game warnings to the playerbase.

I will refer to my mum again, shes what I would consider a "core" customer, long time player, not a forumite, lots of vet rewards, a few lvl 50s, plays content, doesnt min/max. She shouldnt have to min max or delve into various pools to shore up a veat branch over another.

Yes bad builds dont function as well as good ones but not everyone analyses the game and IOs (which are totally OPTIONAL content and are not a basis for balancing ATs) staying inside the primary and secondary powersets you shouldnt be able to "gimp" yourself. My nightwidow doesnt even have aid self yet my bane HAS to have it and use it often.


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Look at whats in the Bane Soldier Primary, then look at whats in Bane Spider Training. There you go thats what Banes have. The Training and Gadgets, thats not just got to partly suit Banes, it has the tall order of suiting Crabs as well and Wolf Spiders if you made one.

Personal expectations outside of those sets are most likely "to be expected" to have to come from power pools. The game is meant to be challenging as well as fun, a person could play it, that person could make the mistake of gimping themself as with any AT but the Devs aren't allowed to give advice on how to build. That in mind expect to make things up with power pools. Fight Pool looks good for the blapper, aid self after placate is still natural.

The game doesn't require anyone to have to IO set, SOs are fine just make the build and play compliment each other. Perhaps things are the way they are to allow flexibility and when using power pools your not becoming over powered.

In the mid levels you respec into Bane which is in itself a bonus because you can more likely make sure you have those specifically useful to you pool powers in place.

The game has a 16 rating on it. I'd expect people above the age of 16 to think for themselves, learn and adapt on SOs alone. Some people make better scrappers than defenders and thats the way it is.

You all made the Bane sound challenging, not doing fun, that made me start leveling one a few days ago, my comments are to try and entice the core of the problem which could be "no one took weave"


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You're right,games should be designed, and this game should continue to be designed so that casual gamers, people's mums and dads can play without getting all confuzzled, some people aren't prepared to spend days wading through learning material in a game, they just wanna pick it up and play, that's what the code monkeys should have thought of when designing the veats.


 

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The game has a 16 rating on it. I'd expect people above the age of 16 to think for themselves, learn and adapt on SOs alone.

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What you are doing is basing other people on your own expectations and working and this is wrong, you need to base things around a core customer and this is much closer to my mum than you or I, you want proof of this? go around checking the info of people you dont know and laugh at thier power choices

You CANNOT base a game around the playerbase being smart, thats a recipe for disaster as the vast majority of people are stupid, this is why we ahve the AT system so no matter what people do they cant screw themselves up soooo badly it cant be corrected. I know people who were in COH alpha and ran around with such joys as energy blast/energy melee/invulnerability toons, however if that system went live there would be people who rolled ff/empathy that wouldnt have been able to solo anything ever and thats why the AT system was born, to prevent people from making something "gimped" getting frustrated and leaving

The game has to appeal to the wider demographic or none of us will play it for very long as the servers wouldnt be up for too long.

I placed banes as my second favourite veat in terms of fun but Im what I would class as an advanced gamer with massive resources stored up on my private bases. However fun doesnt equal balanced and thats what I am all about, I will be making a NW first but I dont want my NW to be better than the other veats and I dont want banes to be lagging behind.

I couldnt care less if you personally enjoy banes and neither could ncsoft because quite frankly you are too advanced to be of the target demographic, this isnt khelds, the developers have made it clear this is not a "advanced AT" debacle that khelds were (yes I know people enjoy them and play them well but they were a commercial disaster for the percentage of players on them and the amount of resources invested in their creation)

They will never plan another AT for "advanced" players or for the most basic, it will only ever be for the middle ground but thats ok, because inventions opens up a whole realm of options for "advanced" players to expand, customise and make their mark on their characters.

The vibe I am getting from your post is that you "want" to play one to prove that they can be made sucessful, well thats just meaningless, my ea stalkers only had hide (no choice) and entropy (mez protection) from the secondary and EA underperforms badly enough without ignoring most of it but my stalkers were very sucessful but thats how not to measure a powerset. You want to play a challanging powerset? Go roll a /elec stalker, its proven to be horrendously bad and a bottom performer and castle knows this but little can be done now as its been anounced and someone out there will want it and as its a direct port you ahve to be careful what you change due to the tables the powers draw from.

Dont expect people to play like you do, dont expect people to know what you know, dont expect people to be able to use inventions. Judging others and AT design on yourself is just failure which is why I will always think about how my mum will manage as she is a big fan and long time player of the game, as i have said, she is much closer to an average player than I am and its average players who finance the vast majority of the game.

When I analyse and test things I dont primarily base things around what I want, I try to take a much broader overlook on things.

As for you expecting people over 16 to be able to think for themselves, well thats just silly, after all, look at the governments over 18s vote in.


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U sir, win the analysis of the year award. Ur absolutely correct, PEOPLE ARE [censored] STUPID. That's the end of it. If you pour thousands of pounds/dollars into developing a game for a generation of einstein's to play, kiss ur money goodbye n00b because it won't work.

NCsoft need to make things that work for [censored] stupid people, and if smart people like once again praf and stalkobot, with his infinite resources can't make sense of these pieces of [censored], then why the hell should we bother playing them? It's up to ncsoft to make sure we know what to do, how to do it.

BTW has anyone found a version of mids with VEATs in them? i'd appreciate a link thanks.


 

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Do a Google search for "veat builder" or "veat planner" and you'll get a link to the US forums.


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U sir, win the analysis of the year award. Ur absolutely correct, PEOPLE ARE [censored] STUPID. That's the end of it. If you pour thousands of pounds/dollars into developing a game for a generation of einstein's to play, kiss ur money goodbye n00b because it won't work.

NCsoft need to make things that work for [censored] stupid people, and if smart people like once again praf and stalkobot, with his infinite resources can't make sense of these pieces of [censored], then why the hell should we bother playing them? It's up to ncsoft to make sure we know what to do, how to do it.

BTW has anyone found a version of mids with VEATs in them? i'd appreciate a link thanks.

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I kinda fell about laughing at this XD


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What you are doing is basing other people on your own expectations and working and this is wrong, you need to base things around a core customer and this is much closer to my mum than you or I, you want proof of this? go around checking the info of people you dont know and laugh at thier power choices

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Completely wrong person to say this to. I have few characters with "ultimate" builds, I don't see them as a necessity. Edit: No characters come to think of it, maybe in terms of or as near as on a planner.

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You CANNOT base a game around the playerbase being smart, thats a recipe for disaster as the vast majority of people are stupid, this is why we ahve the AT system so no matter what people do they cant screw themselves up soooo badly it cant be corrected.

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Insulting the vast majority of the player base would be wrong, insulting anyone here has not been my intention. The AT system is there so that those new to the game wouldn't screw up their builds so easily. The VEATs are for people with 50s and so aren't completely new. The game has to be somewhat both challenging and fun. You have a difficulty rating to play with to get that.

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I placed banes as my second favourite veat in terms of fun but Im what I would class as an advanced gamer with massive resources stored up on my private bases.

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However fun doesnt equal balanced and thats what I am all about, I will be making a NW first but I dont want my NW to be better than the other veats and I dont want banes to be lagging behind.

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I would like to see balance. If you read things carefully I am pushing for more of a constructive post coming from people who complain. Its not necessarily to help those complaining neither - I draw from it . I like to learn from people every time they say anything.

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I couldnt care less if you personally enjoy banes and neither could ncsoft because quite frankly you are too advanced to be of the target demographic

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I really hope no one I know from Zukunft reads this, they'd be like "huh?". Thanks for the compliment but I am a little bit of a one trick pony in a distinct area. That means across ATs I will vary and even be worse than your mum. Your mum sounds cool btw . Actually I tend to make gimped builds, learn to deal with it and should I go and optimize a build I should be that much better for it. I drew a lot from other peoples ways, working with less and then adding more is one of them. Still leveling that Bane when I can. I am not saying they should not be changed, but I like to seek out something thats not easy to detect. Some write stuff off and don't go back over it. I don't. I may know what can be termed as cheats and have trouble gobbing off about them but I like to still qualify as one of the worse players.

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this isnt khelds, the developers have made it clear this is not a "advanced AT" debacle that khelds were (yes I know people enjoy them and play them well but they were a commercial disaster for the percentage of players on them and the amount of resources invested in their creation)

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Khelds were an advanced AT? More reactive than proactive compared to VEATs but not advanced.

Anyway to stop having to quote you too much.

VEATs. Isn't for the advanced gamer. They proactively buff others whilst they are teamed so as little as 3 in the team and it's possibly soft cap in defense. Now once you have that, it means n00b it up and have fun. As one VEAT in a mixed team its still all good. Advanced no, but if your going to solo then you may want to think about what your doing because in any area you specialize in your not a master, just like khelds, to avoid stepping on the other ATs toes and without team buffs need to make more of your build.

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The vibe I am getting from your post is that you "want" to play one to prove that they can be made sucessful

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I don't do vibes, just read the words and try not to add nor take away. I want to play a bane because you all made them sound so damn challenging. Real life example of what I do is, people say Fire tanks need fitness and tough, so I deliberately go without. This doesn't make my tank better than others "in terms of" nor efficient, it just removes the word "need" seeing as somehow, I find alternative ways of doing stuff. Sometimes my builds really need specialist play. Some basic builds before you add power pools are designed to play best a certain way but maybe because of the difference in what you have to do to survive with what you get to do to survive in teams, you round out your character via powerpools. I do and I don't, being an altaholic I like characters to vary by a lot..I mean why have 2 tanks if its all the same? A powerset has to offer fun, but it should be challenging more than fun if you like. No AT is actually plug in and play and in that I credit everyone with more intelligence.

I did in fact roll an /elec stalker on test..damn level bump..

I deliberately make gimped characters and I am usually the most inefficient in a team but usually its "in terms of"...most likely "dps" so I am never how people might imagine.

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When I analyse and test things I dont primarily base things around what I want, I try to take a much broader overlook on things.

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The whole trying to get a broader look on things is what I am trying to gain. Throw things your way, you throw things mine, we broaden. Did it in the Tanker section and gained from it. I am not actually in opposition to anyone. If something blatantly looks that way point it out but from my experience passing things back and forth can finally lead to getting to the bottom of something and I do like to think. Although it's nice to have to think but no one wants to see things be too hard. "Perhaps" just like I wouldn't suggest soloing a emp/elec to an enemy banes are just as bad, I am still pushing to find that out yet I am very doubtful. Some characters are better off in a team end of, an emps primary has heal aura and a couple of RAs to help itself "whoopee doo" that kind of challenging is not for me.

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As for you expecting people over 16 to be able to think for themselves, well thats just silly, after all, look at the governments over 18s vote in.

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Well these things happen XD

Teamed they're probably all great. On a Mace that stays in Melee I am seeking no less than 25% def. Surprising imo is that Surveillance doesn't debuff tohit. After spying you may say of learned of someones moves. Debuffing resistance I don't know about how that comes in at all except in maybe affecting weak spots. Debuffing Defense would come from learning someones moves but from knowing moves you should imo be lowering defense via countering and therefore lowering tohit at the same time. Debuffing tohit will then stack with your defense, good for dealing with the higher ranks. -Tohit in a roundabout way increases all defense. The debuff however could be wasted in an all VEAT team but I wouldn't expect to see them all of the time. On ranks such as bosses the -tohit could prove helpful but I am for suggesting -tohit in surveillance for realisms sake.


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I think you are completly missiong something. Just about anyone of any level of ability could build and play a Night Widow and have them be quite effective. However, someone who didn't know exactly what they where doing could very easily gimp themselves with a bane spider. That's not balanced. That's not good design.

That's exactly what happened with keldians. Excited player unlocks keldians for the first time. They then find thier kelidian isn't very effective (yes, it's because thier build and play style isn't exactly right, but they don't know that). Not only do thy give up on keldians, thinking that they are gimped, they also tell all thier friends that keldians are gimped. It gets around and people who persevered with keldians find themselves unable to get a team, because the word on the street is that keldians are gimped.


This is why class/AT balance is so important in a MMO, when it wouldn't matter in a single player game. If an AT or powerset is percived to be weak, they find it difficult to get a place on a team.


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Good point on khelds, thats probably why Bane will be the WotM (worst), simply because the 'pro' said they suck.

There are many gimped sets, AT or sortlike in this game, never they have done anything to put them in line with the other possible sets. Even less experienced players can get along, at least in Heroes. Villians is way more 'set specific' team picking.. sadly.

The (imho) mistake devs made on bane.. weapons. You are nearly forced to go pure mace or pure gun (bad choice imho), basicly forcing you to be 'job specific', rather being such versatile as widow or spider can be.

Whatever happens to banes, or every VEAT, there will be lots of lvl50's. The ammount of PL'ed VEAT's will go higher then the lvl50 fire/kin's on heroes.

But how do Soldiers show up in search after their 2nd tree? Teams wont know if they pick a spider or a bane, chances to get kicked of the team?


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You CANNOT base a game around the playerbase being smart, thats a recipe for disaster as the vast majority of people are stupid, this is why we ahve the AT system so no matter what people do they cant screw themselves up soooo badly it cant be corrected.

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Insulting the vast majority of the player base would be wrong, insulting anyone here has not been my intention. The AT system is there so that those new to the game wouldn't screw up their builds so easily. The VEATs are for people with 50s and so aren't completely new. The game has to be somewhat both challenging and fun. You have a difficulty rating to play with to get that.

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Its not an insult, people are stupid, to steal a line from men in black “a person is smart, people are stupid” my facetious remark about governments shows this quite well and the average IQ is still around 100 and that’s really quite pathetic, you need to stop assuming people are you because they are not. People have a tendency to consider the people around them average when they are not, what they are is average for your social standing. Voices on the forums carry remarkably little weight because the average player doesn’t even peek in here

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I placed banes as my second favourite veat in terms of fun but Im what I would class as an advanced gamer with massive resources stored up on my private bases.

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I really wish I hadn't deleted your private message from a couple of years back.

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Really whys that? Because I may not have understood how things worked and I asked you a question? Oh noes. Allow me to fill in a little of my past for you, most of my in game friends know this. When COH was launched I was working and living in Los Angeles, doing computer game software and design, I played the game since launch, my first character was a ar/em, I took fly, tp, medicine and every primary power and loved that character, I knew little about the game and leveled in debt mostly. A couple of months later I spent a week on life support due to a rather serious prescription drug reaction and was supposedly deceased for a time. When I came out of hospital I weighed significantly less than I did before had massive gaps in my memory and was brought back to the UK. Couple of months after that I saw a COH box, remembered how much I liked it, couldn’t for the life of me remember my old account and password information so started again, back on the EU and once again I didn’t have a clue what I was doing. I still don’t know everything there is in this game, just NOW I know pretty much most things but that’s taken a while and there are always things just around the corner that surprises you. Hell it took me until level 41 to know what a SO was, I didn’t know why people were healing for far far more than me, I didn’t take stamina until very late and I’m proud of how I behaved, I’m not some elitist jackass. I will always say we were all newbs when we began and I personally adopt a new one every couple of weeks in AP to assist them with starting the game with money and advice, the last guy was an archery/ice blaster, hes lvl 45 now. So you take exception at my definition of me being an “advanced gamer”? I have played many games, I have designed and programmed them and I have a pretty good knowledge of this one now as I have played it since release (sans several months forced absence) and it’s the one game I keep coming back to, I have at least one level 50 in every AT (but khelds and MMs)

As I have said Im not ashamed of my mistakes of the past, sure it’s a little embarrassing but if you can’t laugh at yourself what can you do? My first sg here and plight trawler can attest to my n00byness but as time goes on I learn some more and remember some more.

I stand by defining myself as an “advanced gamer” its not some form of ego massage just where I am now, same as if a brand new player turned up they would be a “beginner”


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Good point on khelds, thats probably why Bane will be the WotM (worst), simply because the 'pro' said they suck.

There are many gimped sets, AT or sortlike in this game, never they have done anything to put them in line with the other possible sets. Even less experienced players can get along, at least in Heroes. Villians is way more 'set specific' team picking.. sadly.

The (imho) mistake devs made on bane.. weapons. You are nearly forced to go pure mace or pure gun (bad choice imho), basicly forcing you to be 'job specific', rather being such versatile as widow or spider can be.

Whatever happens to banes, or every VEAT, there will be lots of lvl50's. The ammount of PL'ed VEAT's will go higher then the lvl50 fire/kin's on heroes.

But how do Soldiers show up in search after their 2nd tree? Teams wont know if they pick a spider or a bane, chances to get kicked of the team?

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well so long as they have slotted manuevers and tactics I dont think any team will be too upset, its the defensive equivilent of ice sheilds slotted with 2 generic IOs for defence (about 16%) for everyone without having to recast and 15% more damage is always nice.

You raise a fair point and one I havent mentioned here and thats on the redraw of banes, should they want to take burst or heavy burst from the wold spider set and mace attacks then there is a horrendous amount of redraw and it should be the worst of the game, Before anyone says that redraw is factored into the attack animations that is incorrect, BaB recently posted that he thought that redraw was included in animation times but that was not the case.


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But how do Soldiers show up in search after their 2nd tree? Teams wont know if they pick a spider or a bane, chances to get kicked of the team?


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To Shannon, i don't mean any insult either, but face fact, most people are stupid, stalkobot is right. And yes, the game should be challenging. But to complete a challenge, you must know what to do. You're once again, describing a puzzle. This is not a puzzle game in which you should have to figure out what to do.

A challenge is knowing what to do, but having some difficulty doing it, so you get that great feeling of accomplishment in the end, and no one, to my knowledge, has achieved this.

And to stalkobot, play lineage 2. If you make one mistake in that game, you'll be ridiculed for like by idiots who say stuff like 'omg that idiot wears nightmare armour on his TH instead of dark crystal, lol'.

I admire how you admit everything n00by u've done, on some games and certainly in l2 to some people, i always deny viciously making any mistakes or claiming it to be a one off ^^

Thankfully the community on COV is nowhere near as heartless and genuinely violent (people have been murdered in real life as a result of L2) as L2.

We all endured much persecution as nabs, so naturally, they can expect the same from me, but i try to do my best to help my friends and teach new players ^^

There's nothing worse than elitists, and really, on other games for example COD4, i love destroying idiots who attack other people for not knowing something.

too bad u don't play on union, right? Anyway good going man ^^


 

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1) Don't go to Men In Black for knowledge.
2) No ones assuming anything but 2 things, people like fun and people like a challenge but its in overcoming a challenge that people can be more proud of.
3) People aren't stupid just because they aren't into politics. Politicians are devious and your damned whoever you vote for.
4) Having an IQ of 100 is good, not bad, but good. You can get anywhere in life through effort and the more you do something the quicker you get at it.
5) Various people don't come to the forums. Normally they don't have time for it. You say one thing and it gets turned into something else based on what someone adds and reads of it.
4) I wouldn't if I could reveal the Private Message but it was basically not what you though it was.
5) I am pretty sure I took exception to you thinking I was an advanced gamer compared to most. I was so sure it was me I was trying to denounce as an advanced gamer you know, so out of all the other things, where did you get that from?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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Teams which kick a player only because he doesn't play the good at are just asshöles (except for some tfs). And it's not so frequent... I played in good teams, bad teams, and I never saw that.

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Correct. If a team leader is specifically looking for a Crab Spider he is still free to ask, just like when he is looking for a defender with a specific primary or something like that.




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