I doubt devs would even see the posts. I mean, if it isn't constructive, well put etc then I don't think our mods will make them aware of it. Time is short.
I do not get the impression that the Devs take that much notice of europe anyway. The one Dev with the biggest post count over his/her duration of presence was probably Statesman I think by a long mile; that guy who allegedly never listened etc, etc so what chance is there I wonder?
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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but its not the same exposure as a US poster can get towards the Devs. Users can even send PMs to Castle et al.
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Oh, you can say that again. Back Alley Brawler introduced himself over here and we haven't heard from him since. I bet his account is gathering dust. I think more of the Devs should post over here and actually read our forums so we don't feel ignored.
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Give how rude some people where to BAB when he did come over it's not suprising he hasn't been back.
I really should do something about this signature.
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Give how rude some people where to BAB when he did come over it's not suprising he hasn't been back.
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how is it rude asking questions? He puts up with it over on US boards why not here
Actually, I remember BAB using quotes from the EU boards to counter arguments on the US boards. So, while the devs might not post all that much over here at least one of them actively reads our discussions.
That said, it does not seem to be a clever move to insult devs here or over there. Usually this does bad things to your credibility.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
I don't mind being held accountable for what i do; i'm english, so slate away at me 
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I do however, want some response from devs about what they're doing to buff up banes.
EDIT: Take a look at this topic on bane spiders from the US forums, it appears some americans are having the same thoughts as us, and are calling for a buffing! the topic has alot of reception as well!
http://boards.cityofvillains.com/showfla...=0#Post10786127
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I do however, want some response from devs about what they're doing to buff up banes.
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*ahem*
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4. No 'Calling Out'.
Do not create threads/posts asking for a Dev or Red Name to address an issue, or respond. Instead, create a well thought out post with a descriptive title. Devs and Red Names read the boards regularly and will see your post. If they have a comment about the issue, they will add it.
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It had to come up eventually...
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
Don't backseat moderate. If the devs want to give me a slap on the wrist for being naughty, they are perfectly capable of it.
The title of this thread isn't 'positron answer NAO!' and i did believe i wasn't being unreasonably impolite.
And no, they don't regularly read the boards.
Asking them to respond is asking them to respond. Have a nice evening.
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
I can see that tempers are flaring due to the fact we feel, and sometimes rightly so that our opinions dont count at all.
I do feel however despite the large portion of people calling for Banes to be looked at will go unheard and they will enter live being as "broken" (i know they arnt totally broken, but their balance is in question).
I do wish as others here that a Redname would post and advise what they were thinking when they created the Bane AT what is it they are supposed to do with their strange strong melee power and yet their strongest defence is against ranged....which seems a little weird for a class that excells in stealth damage from melee strikes, Im adapting but i just want to know whats being done because as a Villain I feel we are being singled out again, in that Banes do underperform in referance to other classes and other VEATS.
Regards
Spider
Surveillance is a bit of a golden egg imo.
Banes are lucky [censored]
My Widow wants it. She could do with it. I'll have it without the -res and -def effects. Just show me the figures and I will gain something from it and use it because thats what I like to do anyway. I learn about the enemy and use that knowledge against them.
Its OMGness to me.
Night Widows have one less power choice otoh. Surveillance without the -def and -res would be really really nice!
These VEATs do leave Stalkers with even less of a role in teams. I don't know about anyone else but in playing one you need to get to melee, have no interruption and AS at speed, because teams move the enemy about or ET that enemy for you while your still going through the interrupt phase. In short its one AT that people can definitely get by without. Some people though are Elitist [censored] who need to take that thing from up their [censored] and ask themselves that if they are so elite "why do they need to have 8 man teams of fotms and not say 5 fotms and 1-3 of anyone?"
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Asking them to respond is asking them to respond. Have a nice evening.
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I can read too, and yes i was asking them to respond, did i ever say i wasn't? no. Don't get pedantic with me boy, because i can outlast anyone when it comes to nit-picking their words
to shannon, i couldn't agree more. I don't like elitists, i am n00b friendly, and when we were n00bs we all endured much persecution, so they can expect the same. But i always do my best to help people, even though i rarely meet new players in villains.
Anyways, you've said alot of [censored] that makes great sense, and is clear to see, and i think ebon is also right about the fact banes have ubar range defense, but focus on melee. O.o
some nice points made people ^^
Just had a look at that thread. General opinion seems to be that "Banes are fine". I'll have to wait (a rather long time) until I can try one myself before I really comment.
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What's the matter, kiddo, did I strike a nerve? 
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
nah, but why are u trying to make me angry? internets are serius buziness we all know, and u seem to miss out the smiley i included in my post, in an attempt to make me sound like i was getting riled, (fail). all in good fun boy please don't come into my thread and turn it into some l337 riddled spamfest. thanks. But really, i should leave it like it is, otherwise im just gonna keep feeding the troll and giving him stuf to quote in his posts.
It's pretty evident by the fact you havn't said much related to the topic. *adds to ignore*
I appreciate it when people stay on topic, and don't troll into a forum trying to make attacks on age, (i'm in college, been there for 2 years) not a kid, from backseat moderators who feel high and mighty get off ur interwebz high horse and say something smart. kthx.
But since i don't spam, i'm going to add another thought with this, and that is yeah, 'fine' is what people are thinking about their damage, but it's their survuvability. The general consensus seems to be their survivability against hard hitting bosses is the problem.
Thanks again for all the intelligent posts in this topic.
From what I read in the link you provided, most seem to have no problem with bosses. Of course, it was stated there were 2 camps - one that gets minced by bosses and one that minces them. So by that, the ever-annoying-but-sometimes-appropriate phrase of "learn to play" may have something to do with this perceived problem. Then again, not having played one myself, I can't comment with certainty.
I didn't miss you smiley, hence my tonguey <-- see? No need to take things too seriously.
Anyway, you're obviously a little tightly wound so I'll let it be. (Moi? Use leet? Perish the thought!)
Take care kiddo.
[Edit] Ah, editing I see? Clever boy
Just to defend myself, you called me boy first, so I didn't bring age into it. I've had 3 years at university and this is my 4th year that I'm taking out, so it seems I'm older than you. Not that that makes any difference, but hey. If you thought I was out of place, then so be it, nay mind.
Well, seeing as you're ignoring me, this post is rather moot I suppose. Ah well [/Edit]
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
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General opinion seems to be that "Banes are fine".
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Yes. They are fine. They play quite happily and you can have fun with them. What they are not, is balanced with the other SoA. If you had only played a bane, you would natuarly be completly oblivious to the issues.
I really should do something about this signature.
True, but some people who have played other SoAs as well seem to think they're Ok. It's still a bit moot anyway, since they're still in testing. Here's hoping they get a little re-balancing but we all know someone will find something to complain about.
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
The only thing I tend to see in the US Forums are the people who like us, would like to see the Banes looked at in view to balance...we are not looking for a bloody overpowerment or even a complete rehaul and then you have the people who are saying nah you all suck im finding Banes perfect because they want to be seen to be super leet and show that they are playing an unbalanced AT and thinking its perfect when in reality they probably think its as unbalanced as we do.
problem with that mentality is that if the devs see all these posts and then see ours, it makes us look like we are whining since they think all these people cant be wrong..can they?.
it frustrates me that also thanks to these people Banes will probably be Nerfed into the ground when they hit live.
Regards
Spider
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True, but some people who have played other SoAs as well seem to think they're Ok. It's still a bit moot anyway, since they're still in testing. Here's hoping they get a little re-balancing but we all know someone will find something to complain about.
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But then you can question: Is Bane underpowered, or are the widows quite overpowered? (hello stacked def buff).
I been following the US thread abit, kinda boils down to the story about balance in blasters, MM secondairy or troller strength among their sets.
I forsee more then widows get a tonedown, rather then bane getting a boost.
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It would be a shame, but I'm afraid you might be right.
I really should do something about this signature.
So far I have been thinking about all this and have only 1 real question - has anyone ever even vaguely paid attention to what a bane does when they attack you? They open with strongest ranged attacks usually involving KB and then either wait for you to come to them for them to then placate/AS you or charge a fallen KB'd foe to AS them - I've seen 3 players use this style of play and have no trouble fighting alongside anything. Beginning to believe the stuff of banes being underpowered is actually untrue - people are trying to use them as low level stalker/brutes and thats not what they are. They are a sup'd up corr with an AS.
I believed the placate nerf was a bit odd but seeing as I've never been placated twice by the same bane it all makes sense. I urge people to try opening with ranged blasts as funnily enough the ranged def of a bane is much higher i believe than their melee (whereas widows its the other way around). I'd recomend trying this method really I do - and regarding the widows & banes comparitive def - how many times have you had trouble hitting a widow and how many times have you had trouble hitting a bane? Think about it seriously and you'll see it all makes sense balance wise in my eyes. Only thing I think banes could do with is a small res increase to bring them a shade more in line with the bane spider executioner bosses, aside from that though they are perfectly fine as is.
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They are a weak corr with an AS.
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Edited for accuracy. Suped up they aint.
I really should do something about this signature.
Some people have an idea of what a Bane Spider should do and believe that to be right. The Devs who created the Bane Spider have an idea of what it should do and are right. Right because they created it. When a game designer made Pac Man you had to eat everything and run away from the ghosts. If a player insists on trying to eat the ghosts then that just can't be helped.
Only in terms of fun can I see a change made unless something is wrong and then if it is wrong why isn't it in a known issue?
With Banes thought to be challenging, your only going to get players that go "challenging!" and making one as well as ones going "this is pants" and quitting on one. Some people just don't do fun, they do challenging instead.
Generally speaking I'd say they all have roles, and from those roles you can specialize. These sets are flexible. You have the entire set of power pool choices to play with to round out your character more. Sometimes it takes thought on powers and slots and a respec to get what you wanted as opposed to having to try to think on what the Devs wanted. If a game gave people everything they wanted at once it'll have a short life span.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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So far I have been thinking about all this and have only 1 real question - has anyone ever even vaguely paid attention to what a bane does when they attack you? They open with strongest ranged attacks usually involving KB and then either wait for you to come to them for them to then placate/AS you or charge a fallen KB'd foe to AS them - I've seen 3 players use this style of play and have no trouble fighting alongside anything. Beginning to believe the stuff of banes being underpowered is actually untrue - people are trying to use them as low level stalker/brutes and thats not what they are. They are a sup'd up corr with an AS.
I believed the placate nerf was a bit odd but seeing as I've never been placated twice by the same bane it all makes sense. I urge people to try opening with ranged blasts as funnily enough the ranged def of a bane is much higher i believe than their melee (whereas widows its the other way around). I'd recomend trying this method really I do - and regarding the widows & banes comparitive def - how many times have you had trouble hitting a widow and how many times have you had trouble hitting a bane? Think about it seriously and you'll see it all makes sense balance wise in my eyes. Only thing I think banes could do with is a small res increase to bring them a shade more in line with the bane spider executioner bosses, aside from that though they are perfectly fine as is.
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that would be great Starscream, save for the fact i tried that and while it "WORKS" it is very flawed because you open with your strongest ranged which tends to be an AOE which then drags a load of foes towards you, wow your placates gonna be awesome in stopping one from hitting you just in time for the other 4-5 to stamp you into the floortiles lol
and again if you try n lead with a single target ranged it still draws in a large group of foes making placate and stealth useless.
see I tried to play that way and was hurt badly on a Mayhem, I still ended up knocking down one foe only to have the other Mobs near him rallying to stomp me. so it means that Banes rely on pulling one foe from a pack of them and since 40+ foes start getting resistant to smashing damage it gets worse as you level.
but in saying that maybe im just doing it wrong could I team with you sometime and just show me what im doing wrong please mate
Kind regards
Spider
P.s. Starscream, sorry if this sounds sarcastic, its not mate.
they might as well ignore the polite soft people, as well, see what i mean? the devs won't consider anything they say either, but yes i see ur point.
I;m not someone who madly swears and curses without good reason, or talks [censored] all the time, i just swear a lot is all :<
Anyways, back on topic, i wonder what buffs we could expect...just downloaded the patch on live, for when the issue gets put out i can play it right away...