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2Good4CoH

By 2Good4CoH,
Posted on: 2009-07-23 05:21 in Everything about PvP

 

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Originally Posted by macskull View Post
Or, more accurately:

Congratulations. I simply fail to understand why people get all worked up when someone attacks them in a zone that's specifically designed for player vs player combat just because they broke some imaginary rule that no one has to adhere to. It's not about respect, it's not about honor, it's about the rules of the game as they were imposed by the programmers. I don't see any options to disable inspirations or disallow leaving the fighting area, or even to deny all teammate buffs, yet you people insist that these rules exist. The only place you can guarantee you're not going to get interrupted is the arena, yet you refuse to go there because it's "too far away" (nevermind that most people have the Pocket D teleporter so the arena's really only one button click and a zone load away, and you can set whatever options you want once you're there). You also say that you can't find people - there's a channel dedicated to the arena, perhaps you've heard of it. In short, you have absolutely no right to complain or be offended that people are trying to PvP you in a zone designed solely for the purpose of open PvP.

Lucky for you guys, the /arenalist command coming in I16 means you don't even have to load into Pocket D - you can bring up the arena interface, select your options, invite the other person, teleport right into a match, and when you're done you'll come out right where you were before. Amusingly I don't even see your kind using that option, so you'll still continue to come to the boards and whine about how life is so unfair even though you refuse to use the tools available to you.

won't use the arena now i have an easy acces button? wow nobody really listens to me, i've been asking for that for ages. I first came on here with the idea to stop the fc police, i can probably find the post which states that arena terminals in RV would solve everything. Not saying i invented the idea, but it's something i've believed for a while. i will stand by the portal and ask people to duel. one less target in pvp, unless u count all the other people doing the same.

gah go to kings thread, might have explained it here...
RV --> pocket D --> ouro --> AP --> RV. yea a bit more then 1 click. not to mention setting up the match, having to click all those doors with the mouse (something i hate using) and all those loading times, although ouro has a small loading time.

I don't know much about the arena channel, which means a lot of people don't, which means a lot of people are not using it therefore it useless.

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I don't know much about the arena channel, which means a lot of people don't, which means a lot of people are not using it therefore it useless.
just because you don't know about the arena channel does NOT mean thqat aqlot of people don't. sorry there pal.

 

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Originally Posted by Hydrophidian View Post
I'm not attacking you at all. Again: I don't bother with open PVP zones anymore. One of the reasons why is people such as yourself who insist on using them as if they were something other than open PVP zones.

No, I don't agree. And this is the very point I made in the last post. It's not selfish to try to use the zone in the manner it was intended to be used. It is selfish to expect everyone to abide by your standards, rather than the games' standards, and restrict their play because it's more convenient for you.

That's fine. If you don't want to contend with how "far away" the Arena is or the loading times, and instead opt to duel in open PVP zones, accept that people might attack you. Because it is an open PVP zone.

I'm doing nothing of the kind, nor is anyone else. You've chosen not to use the arena. Having to deal with people who're using open PVP zones for open PVP is the consequence of that choice. You do not have a leg to stand on when you try to claim that they are the ones behaving inappropriately. You are the one choosing to reject the system designed to accommodate your playstyle. It is the height of arrogance to expect everyone else to cater to you.

I never interrupted a duel. Please stop making convenient assumptions.

And it's also fine for someone in an open PVP zone to say: 'Well, I don't recognize duels and special conditions'... which is the part you don't seem to get.

I don't like getting "ganked". This has nothing to do with "ganking". Straw man.

And a lot of people enjoy open PVP. The problem is when you start assuming your preferences supersede those of everyone else, in a zone designed to accommodate what they enjoy, because it's too much bother for you to use the system designed for what you enjoy.

No, they're not. There is, however, an Arena channel. I realize you'd like to make this out to be a situation wherein you've no options. But you do. You are not forced to use PVP zones for your duels. You choose to do so. And there are consequences that come along with that. My issues start with your apparent attitude that you ought not have to contend with those consequences.

Go right ahead and duel... with the understanding that your duel may be interrupted, and that such interruption is part of the intended zone gameplay and dynamic. No one is doing anything wrong by interrupting you.

Oh, well, by that reasoning, you must agree that duels were meant to be interrupted. Because we can interrupt them.

No, you're not just asking for special accommodations. If that were the extent of it, I wouldn't be posting in this thread. The problem is, you demand them, and carry on as if it's a given that people who don't acquiesce to your conditions are somehow being rude.

It is not rude to engage in open PVP in an open PVP zone. The conditions of an open PVP zone are stated every time you enter it.

But you are, which you don't seem to grasp. Asking me not to openly PVP in a zone meant for open PVP rather defeats the purpose of me being there.

I realize you really want to believe that I'd attack you, because it helps your rationalizations to imagine me as "aggressive and selfish". But, even if I bothered with open PVP anymore, I wouldn't attack you.

You just can't lump me in with everyone else in this thread (which is partially why I decided to jump into it), so you're going to have to abandon all the personal condemnations. They don't apply to me.

No, there is no "apparently". The issue is exactly as I stated it in the previous post, and does not require you to reword and/or reinterpret it. I no longer bother with open PVP zones. Part of the reason why is fight clubs.

No, really, you're not. If you were, this'd be a completely different story, which I'm sure is why you're trying to frame it that way. But no, you're not being forced.
Man I really need to learn how to quote line by line. But again I like old –fashioned ways.

So your *not* taking away my only choice? Whether it’s on purpose or not u are.

Being on the FC police side, arguing that it’s “ok” to interrupt a duel yet u never would. Well I should stop here. If you don’t interrupt duels yourself, you must have a reason.

But being the person I am, ima keep a reading and comment on other things.

It would be a lot different if someone came up and said “well hey, this is a pvp zone and there’s nobody else to fight, so I’m going to attack you” instead of…..well stuff I can’t quote on the forums, haha.

Warzone is just ganking. Not sure what else you think is involved but it’s gank after gank. Talking about duelers being interrupted has nothing to do with ganks? Lol

Hey the arena is inconvenient, that’s not my fault.

Again, I don’t use the arena channel, meaning not everybody does. Everyone who wants to duel or pvp for that matter enters RV. Using the arena channel is useless because some and most people who want to duel don’t use it. I think the arena channel is the help channel on justice anyway. Just random people talking to each other.

Depends on what u mean by wrong. It’s immorally wrong. But I guess you won’t go to jail for it no.

And by that logic we are meant to all commit suicide because we can. No what I mean is that it’s possible in the zone, so we do it.

No, anyone that interrupts or tries to interrupt my duels is in the same boat. Actually, I should add anybody that thinks it’s ok while im at it. I am grouping you with the rest. If u interrupt a duel you are selfish. No denying that.

To get the best dueling conditions: having opponents being the main one, I *have* to duel in zones. If I want my pencil as sharp as possible so I can write as best as I can, I *have* to use the sharpener. Yep, I don’t have to have a sharp pencil, but I like having the best conditions.

i need food/sleep. going to bed. night.

@Sentry4 @Sentry 4

PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.

 

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint View Post
just because you don't know about the arena channel does NOT mean thqat aqlot of people don't. sorry there pal.
that's exactly what it means. If it was popular i would have heard of it. i actually have, playing for 5 years will do that, but never actually ever used it, meaning it doesn't get used by everyone. Therefore making it useless. if even 1 more dueler isn't using the arena channel then RV, RV is still the better choice.

@Sentry4 @Sentry 4

PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.

 

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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
So your *not* taking away my only choice?
It's not your only choice.

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Whether it’s on purpose or not u are.
Uh... no. I'm not. I'm not even in the zones anymore. How many times do I have to point that out?

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Being on the FC police side, arguing that it’s “ok” to interrupt a duel yet u never would.
I'm on the side that says open PVP is appropriate in an open PVP zone, and that trying to restrict or marginalize open PVP in an open PVP zone is inappropriate. When you chastise people for interrupting your duels, that's is what you're doing.

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If you don’t interrupt duels yourself, you must have a reason.
Because I prefer the PVP to be a friendly experience. Not everyone cares about that, and that's valid.

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It would be a lot different if someone came up and said “well hey, this is a pvp zone and there’s nobody else to fight, so I’m going to attack you”
That's not what you've been saying. Do I have to cite the quotes?

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Warzone is just ganking. Not sure what else you think is involved but it’s gank after gank. Talking about duelers being interrupted has nothing to do with ganks? Lol
Yes, it has nothing to do with "ganks". Lol. That's a straw man. Lol. Even if you use 'lol' it remains irrelevant.

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Hey the arena is inconvenient, that’s not my fault.
Right. You think the Arena is inconvenient. You duel in PVP zones because it is more convenient for you. This is about your convenience. Nothing more, nothing less. You expect others to accommodate your convenience, at the expense of their own play.

I find that to be remarkably self-absorbed.

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Again, I don’t use the arena channel, meaning not everybody does.
Plenty of people use the Arena channel. If you don't use it, how would you know?

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Everyone who wants to duel or pvp for that matter enters RV.
When I want to duel I use the arena. You don't speak for "everyone". Your experience is anecdotal, your perspective (extremely) limited. Just like the rest of us.

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Using the arena channel is useless because some and most people who want to duel don’t use it.
You don't use the arena channel, so you have no idea who does and does not use it, or how it's used.

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Depends on what u mean by wrong. It’s immorally wrong.
I disagree. You're entitled to that opinion, of course, but that's all it is. What is clearly intended, however, is that open PVP zones are meant for open PVP.

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And by that logic we are meant to all commit suicide because we can.
Hey, you're the one who went down that road.

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No what I mean is that it’s possible in the zone, so we do it.
Open PVP is possible in open PVP zones. Thus, people engage in open PVP in open PVP zones. If people were meant to be able to duel privately in those zones, they'd be given the means to do so.

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I am grouping you with the rest. If u interrupt a duel you are selfish. No denying that.
Sorry, yes there is. And of course you're going to continue to 'group me with the rest', because your argument falls apart if you don't.

But, as inconvenient to your rationalizations as it may be, I don't interrupt duels. I just recognize that it's fair and valid for anyone to do so in an open PVP zone.

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To get the best dueling conditions: having opponents being the main one, I *have* to duel in zones.
No, you don't. It is a choice of convenience, which you've already admitted. And no one says you can't duel in PVP zones. What is being pointed out to you is that no one has to acknowledge your duels... and to not acknowledge your duels is perfectly appropriate in a open PVP zone, regardless of your view. You think it's selfish? Okay. I think your selfish.

In the end, the only thing that matters is what the zones are designed for. They're designed for open PVP.

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i need food/sleep.
You need more than that, I'd say.

By the way, giving me negative rep with the rep you have does absolutely nothing. This is putting aside the fact that I have it disabled.

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Woah this guy didn't hear anything about ac in 5 years? Says a lot what he does in his play time - pve i assume :P
DUDE ARE YOU DUMB OR WHAT? You don't really think you gonna hear a lot of stories from your pve buddies about ac? Why? Because they do NOT pvp LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

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srs bsns thread..

 

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As I'm writing this post, Sentry4's SS/Fire (which has AID SELF - lolololol) is losing in a no-insp arena match against a Blaster without hibernate or phase.

EDIT: After the match, I told him to drop Aid Self, use greens, and pick up a useful pool like Concealment, but apparently that's cowardice. And this little gem as well:

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[Broadcast] Titan of the Inferno: not to mention i dont know how to use inspirations. don't know which to use or when, lol
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[Broadcast] Titan of the Inferno: all the best pvpers don't touch the forums

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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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[Broadcast] Titan of the Inferno: all the best pvpers don't touch the forums
Is it a bad thing that im considering rolling a toon on justice just to come over there and kill him?

This dude sounds like he belongs in the freedom FC, hey sentry, transfer a toon to freedom, they have some srs strict uber awesum fiteklubs there. So many people fiteklub and they never get interrupted, ever.

 

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Eh, not worth rolling something on Justice. Most of the people there aren't all that wonderful anyways, but oh man will they go nuts when they get a kill on you (lol celebrating 3 vills and a heavy getting a kill).

@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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[Broadcast] Titan of the Inferno: all the best pvpers don't touch the forums
He never seems to run out of ridiculous new things to say.

Having the best teammates is the key to victory in most MMOs, so the people who want to win the most -- usually the best players -- frequent online forums to find and associate with them. This has been uniformly true in every MMO I've played over the last ten years.

 

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Is it a bad thing that im considering rolling a toon on justice just to come over there and kill him?
Wait. This sentry guy is on Justice? Get the stupid off my server D:

 

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[Broadcast] Titan of the Inferno: all the best pvpers don't touch the forums
whut?

 

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BTW he spent the last minute or so of that match inside a dumpster (think it was the KR arena map) trying to webnade the Blaster inside with him.

@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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BTW he spent the last minute or so of that match inside a dumpster (think it was the KR arena map) trying to webnade the Blaster inside with him.
NOWAY...did you tell him there is such thing called taunt?

 

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I am happy to report that today, on Virtue, a fellow citizen and myself performed a citizen's arrest on two warrir's. We received a tip that there was some illegal activity being performed in SC and that they needed assistance in quelling it before normal life could resume. We arrived on the scene on opposing factions and noticed that quite a few people were within the vicinity of SC. After we quelled the disturbance the zone returned to normal and there was rejoicing in the streets. Teams were formed, sides were balanced out(mostly) and fun was had by all. No further infractions occured while I was on the scene.

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BTW he spent the last minute or so of that match inside a dumpster (think it was the KR arena map) trying to webnade the Blaster inside with him.
now that aion beta is over and i have to wait a week to get back on for aion live release, it would be sweet to transfer a toon to wreck a few AE gen pvp'rs, but that transfer fee is harsh lol, so harsh indeed.

The funny thing is, even though you seem like one of the whiners that got the changes made in the first place, you're probably still bad..------Macskull on Crop_of_shaolin

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3 out 5, needed more rping.
Rofl. Yeah, I was actually going to sync the animations with the song, and try to keep the vid around 4 mins - but there was just so little footage to cut, since we killed them virtually every 10-15 seconds.

 

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Rofl. Yeah, I was actually going to sync the animations with the song, and try to keep the vid around 4 mins - but there was just so little footage to cut, since we killed them virtually every 10-15 seconds.
Just pick out the juicy bits, that's what I do. The totals at the end would have been enough to show how badly they got rek'd. Nice vid though.

 

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Just pick out the juicy bits, that's what I do. The totals at the end would have been enough to show how badly they got rek'd. Nice vid though.
Yeah, I probably should have done that, half the vid was us spawn camping them. I wasn't too intent on showing the totals, though... I zoomed in to show the badge earned thing. I thought it was funny that we earned a "Heavyweight Champion" badge.

 

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lazy editing is lazy.