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I have a km/elec not really the best for fight club, but great at killing squishies, very hard to debuff if slotted right. But get confront and webnade and squishies are toast, stops all that kiting.

therms aren't feared like they once were, with incarnates even melee can survive those fights, even win them with the right build. I would suggest the tried and true cold/ build or even dark, but therm imo is meh.

With this new exalted server, i was hoping maybe the devs would give us i12 rules to certain powers their. Slows are such a disapointment under the new rules, i remember a /cold-cold/ could make your toggles never come back or slow you to the point it looked like you was dcing. Very powerful stuff, or a dom troller dropping toggles making you actually have to use breaf free's. Or a stalker being feared in pvp, that was fun. Now you can have snow storm on you, other slow debuffs, and still run back to your base, it's sickeneing.

I just figured, with this new time set since it was focusing on slows and things it would kinda bring it back.

You heard it here 1st, the new fotm is a psy/poison rupter, that is all.......

NOPE!!!!! Back when pvp was ok, before the nerfs EM took it was very nice, infact it was the best single target damage set on the game. Reason, it had one of the best one two combo's ever, Total focus, followed by a energy transfer that would hit like a second later. So devs changed the way attacks worked versus the time they took to activate. They decided if a power took a long time to activate it was worthy of heavy damage, and if it was a fast attack it had to be moderate at best. So poor energy transfer, with it's fast activation and heavy damage was slowed to 2 second activation, to validate under these new time rules why it hit so hard. Problem being it threw the sets synergy off by slowing it down, and now by the time you get energy transfer off, your opponent can take like up to two actions not limited to but including heal before it goes off.

So short answer NO!!!!! Grab SS and like it, it's really the only viable tank set atm, stone used to be good, but yet another nerf a while back lol.

I like fight clubbing because i can't do it, so it's a challenge lol. I've been on my blasters, fenders, doms, rupters for so long i figured id start doing this. But for some reason, i don't care how much money i put in a toon i find a way to lose. I made a shield/drk tank put all shield wall pvp defense set's, the pvp resist sets in tough and in the resist he had. And everyone just kills him in a few seconds, i was about to just delete him i was so mad lol. Than i see mercury running around beating people in 1v1's like it's nothing, i figured the drk set although missing damage, with some incarnate help, it would be decent, but highly survivable because of the -tohit. I made a ss/fire tank, which if i play like im on my squishies is godly, but as soon as i try to fight club, sure i can last a long time, but i always get wore down in the end. Although that was my old build before i knew about procs in SS, so i might try again.

I just don't get how to do it i must admit lol, even slotted with a full pvp IO build i couldn't make it work i was forced to run run run, everyone hit me at will never missed lol.

I know shields are rare but wow lol, it has to be one person who can point me in the right direction? All the searches i come up with non list pvp effectiveness it's all pve stuff, and as we all know it is two different games

So...I'm coming off a little break from heroes almost two years (left to play Aion) and am now getting my feet wet again in pvp. My over priced old builds are still effective but very boring, so i decided to role a SD/DM tank and i have 0 knowledge of either set lol. Of course i fought them before but i don't really concern myself with other builds besides my own.

So I'm hoping someone who knows about that build can come on here and get me out of the dark. For starters what do i take out of the primary and what should my defensive goals be? Than what do i take out of the secondary?

What made me want a sd, is i saw some guy with one the other day and he was awesome to watch, and i remember before my break shields was trash, but it seems it's at least viable if not good properly built. A side note any builds thrown out there would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance :P

Also i plan on strictly zone, with the occasional lolfiteklub, don't ask why i get kicks out of it sometimes i just do lol.

I think you are selling yourself short, first are you going for a hit and run build? If so that build will work if not you need to make some adjustments. Biggest thing missing i see is no self heal, id drop leaping and get aidself, your probably like i was and find it hard to let go of sj, but you can remedy that by a quick trip to sirens and get the temp jump pack for you sj fix.

also these suggestions depends solely on your income, but first replace the numina set in high pain tolerance for the pvp heal set. Next 3 slot rage with hami's tohit, recharge, endurance IO's gives you all three components at a fraction of the slots. 4 slot taunt you get +rech with the 4th IO, 6 slot ko blow with the pvp melee set, put the purple melee set in jab, for epics id go max perception acc build and get focus acc and perfect body or w/e it's called you get great regen and end bonus from that power. That's enough from me cant let all the secrets out but just loosely thats a gain of about 20% rech, which is great to get ko blow back fast.

I have a very good fire/ss tank i use now, and from my experience you best come with at least 35kb protection to the zone or stay home 1st off so add more kb io's. Next save some slots, 3 slot rage with hami's and be done with it, the tohit recharge defense ones. Burn is a must but not for your reasoning, no good pvp'r is going to sit in your burn patch, but it gives you instant protection and freedom from immobs and its good for slotting. Three slotting blazing aura is a waste it will be down 90% of the time because of the offensive toggle drop deal. For healing flames you can use 5 pieces of doctored wounds and sneak a kb io in the six slot as it takes resist io's also drop the end/rech 50 io. 6 slot all your resist armors and put kb io's in the six slot. You can put a defense armor based kb io in cj, 3 slot health with +end proces IE numinas unique and or miracle and panecea, end is your worst enemy on a fire/ss rage crash and hasten crash leave you pretty dry. Add slots to stone prison, its your friend as it slows runners down, and try and put more money in your build when you get the chance, this build is pretty basic.

Best revamp idea at the moment is too load up the Aion client lol, they seem to have a grasp on zone pvp. You go to this area called the abyss and you and your guild(SG/VG) attempt to take over castles or fortresses(Bases Raids) listening to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_1hK...eature=related so that lights a small fire but after listening to this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISgu...eature=related there pvp is basically what we have being begging for all these years.


But the op's idea is sound too i guess

See the funny thing is it's a big misconception about fc police, all though i have been enjoying a little rp with all this, because rping is something i never did so it's fresh material for me. The fact still remains that most of us that are doing the fc police are still old school pvp'rs and will roll over most of the people that's against us anyway. I have shown it time and time again in the arena, hell silit is married to the arena every time i see him he's camped there, they think for some reason, that because we are silly on here, and that rping is more fun than actually wasting most of these new gen players in the arena, that we won't still smash them in 1v1's.

A little known fact is in i12 and before, and ep can attest to this because he's been around in my triumph days, but i used to be one of the best fclubers on triumph, my bs/reg lost once and only had one tie in like probably 100 fights and that was to that damn power fist i couldn't kill him, and edmondo's ice dom got me. But the difference was, i didn't do it during active zone pvp sessions, i didn't care if you used inspir, temps, accolades, you didn't have to sit in my face and not move, and the key factor is i didn't broadcast about fighting me, to be honest most of my fights was set up by tells, someone may have heard or seen me in action and wanted to test their build against me. I also had a sp/reg i used to arena with. All my villains i used mainly for test server ladder matches, and they have always been based on freedom from day one, freedom was always a good place to practice how to stave off spikes, and you needed that in the ladders.

But then came i13 and actual pvp that made sense stopped, so i tore down my zone fighters and adapted to what was needed to pvp with these new rules, and all our friends and best competition left for freedom or left the game, so i moved my zone heroes to freedom, and even on freedom with all it's population my toons are still recognizable for what they do.